Socialism is more popular than Project 2025

[Contumacious]

Now you see your error?

NOPE-- I'M A NEVER WRONG

 

[Hector12]

That remark tells me that you do not know your ass from a hole in the ground


President Trump places a tariff on widgets produced by country A


Those widgets can also be purchased from Countries B, C, D and E,




is the tariff "inflationary" if you buy the widgets from UNAFFECTED countries ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?

A tariff is inflationary when it increases the price of consumer goods.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

NOPE-- I'M A NEVER WRONG

There you go again.

 

[Contumacious]

Article I, Section 10 refers to individual states acting alone, not to the entire United States with the consent of Congress.

Congress can NOT amend the Constitution UNLESS they comply with

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

That has NEVER occurred for paper money

 

[Hector12]

To say nothing of the fact that as DOGE continues to audit each and every department, more and more waste, grift, and corruption are exposed. Hector12 thinks government is there to take care of us cradle to grave. That is not their job, dumbass socialist.
I bet when the audits are finalized, the national debt could be slashed by at least 1/3rd.

Two years from now I will admit if I am mistaken. Will you?

 

[Contumacious]

A tariff is inflationary when it increases the price of consumer goods.

>>>>WHY<<<<<<

would you buy the consumer goods from a country which is affected by tariffs??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?

 

[Hector12]

A tariff is inflationary when it increases the price of consumer goods.

Congress can NOT amend the Constitution UNLESS they comply with

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

That has NEVER occurred for paper money

I am not talking about an amendment to the Constitution. I am talking about the wording of Article I, Section 10 as it currently exists.

 

[Contumacious]

There you go again.

There you go again.

Here in the State of Georgia , as well as any state of the union, I can pay my debts using FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES , i.e. PAPER MONEY
Now do you see your error?

 

[Contumacious]

I am not talking about an amendment to the Constitution. I am talking about the wording of Article I, Section 10 as it currently exists.

Are you using an Orwellian doublespeak dictionary ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

 

[Hector12]

>>>>WHY<<<<<<

would you buy the consumer goods from a country which is affected by tariffs??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?

Because tariffs increase the prices of consumer goods.

 

[Hector12]

Are you using an Orwellian doublespeak dictionary ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

No. You are.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Here in the State of Georgia , as well as any state of the union, I can pay my debts using FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES , i.e. PAPER MONEY
Now do you see your error?

Can you pay debts with paper money issued by the State of Georgia?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Because tariffs increase the prices of consumer goods.

Do tariffs increase the money supply?

 

[Hector12]

CATO Institute

Tariff Myths, Debunked​

Your one-stop shop for breaking through the tariff fog.
September 11, 2024 • Commentary
By Scott Lincicome

Myth 1: Foreigners Pay Protective Tariffs
Your one-stop shop for breaking through the tariff fog.
Perhaps the silliest of all tariff myths is the one Donald Trump keeps repeating. By law, a U.S.-based person or company importing a product into the country will be liable for paying any tariff (tax) owed on that product...

Myth 2: Protective Tariffs Don’t Increase U.S. Prices

It’s similarly misguided to claim, as some misguided souls recently have, that protective tariffs don’t increase U.S. prices. The basic logic and economics here are again straightforward: If tariffs didn’t increase import prices, then they wouldn’t protect U.S. companies from that foreign competition; and if those U.S. companies were already selling at or below the import price, then they wouldn’t need a tariff to change American importers’ and consumers’ behavior. (Nobody—not even me—is “buying foreign” just for the fun of it.) By forcing importing firms to either pay a tariff or switch to more expensive U.S.-made goods, protective tariffs will push the domestic market prices of those goods higher than they’d otherwise be. If they didn’t, then they wouldn’t protect anything...

https://www.cato.org/commentary/tariff-myths-debunked?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3KGu1v7GiwMV3DrUAR0tfxpeEAAYAiAAEgISzPD_BwE

 

[Contumacious]

Can you pay debts with paper money issued by the State of Georgia?

That's a bullshit circumvention of article 1, section 10 .

NO PAPER MONEY MEANS NO PAPER MONEY

That is the reason we are $30 TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTrillion in debt

everyoe is out to concoct a pretext to defeat the law

 

[Robert W]

I'm not against socialized medicine if we were to mimic the French system, but we'd also need to make some other changes. First of all, we'd have to stop being the world's police and reduce the military a lot. Second, we'd have to stop subsidizing the use of corn syrup in everything and ban a lot of the same substances that aren't allowed in food in Europe. We'd probably also have to find a way to push more of the public to exercise.

Part of the reason the French system works is because their public is healthier than ours overall. This was true even before they put into place their modern healthcare system. Since we have a rather obese population with a high incidence of things like diabetes, converting to a socialized system would be rather rough in the beginning.

All that aside, the French system is one of the better ones also because of its private sector. They have access to cheap care for basic needs but can still go to a private hospital for something time-sensitive. That's the ideal. Public systems are cheaper but tend to be less prompt, whereas private systems are faster but more expensive.

Here is the major problem in the USA. I pay small amounts for health care. However I happen to go to a super good health care provider in Idaho. I only pay minor fees and the service is excellent. But a huge chunk is paid for me by you guys. I hope you guys enjoy paying my bills for me.

 

[Contumacious]

Here is the major problem in the USA. I pay small amounts for health care. However I happen to go to a super good health care provider in Idaho. I only pay minor fees and the service is excellent. But a huge chunk is paid for me by you guys. I hope you guys enjoy paying my bills for me.

and that's the way it has been since LBJ signed the Medicare/Medicaid Act into law

prior to 1967 health care was affordable

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's a bullshit circumvention of article 1, section 10 .

NO PAPER MONEY MEANS NO PAPER MONEY

That is the reason we are $30 TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTrillion in debt

everyoe is out to concoct a pretext to defeat the law

That's a bullshit circumvention of article 1, section 10 .

It is literally following the letter of the law.

NO [State] PAPER MONEY MEANS NO [State] PAPER MONEY

 

[Contumacious]

That's a bullshit circumvention of article 1, section 10 .

It is literally following the letter of the law.

NO [State] PAPER MONEY MEANS NO [State] PAPER MONEY

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD NOT ISSUED PAPER MONEY UNTIL THE "PROGRESSIVES" AKA THE SOCIALIST DEMON RATS (version 1) ENACTED THE FEDERAL RESERVE ACT in 1913. FOR 136 YEARS THE FEDS HAD "FORGOTTEN" THAT THEY COULD ISSUE PAPER MONEY .

DURING THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION ALL THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE OPPOSED TOM PAPER MONEY .

THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS THE FIFTH PLANK OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO

Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto

www.conservativeusa.net

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD NOT ISSUED PAPER MONEY UNTIL THE "PROGRESSIVES" AKA THE SOCIALIST DEMON RATS (version 1) ENACTED THE FEDERAL RESERVE ACT in 1913. FOR 136 YEARS THE FEDS HAD "FORGOTTEN" THAT THEY COULD ISSUE PAPER MONEY .

DURING THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION ALL THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE OPPOSED TOM PAPER MONEY .

THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS THE FIFTH PLANK OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO

Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto

www.conservativeusa.net

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD NOT ISSUED PAPER MONEY UNTIL THE "PROGRESSIVES" AKA THE SOCIALIST DEMON RATS (version 1) ENACTED THE FEDERAL RESERVE ACT in 1913.

Liar.