CDZ Social Engineering & Propaganda

[Bonzi]

What is being taught in which schools?

I'll just use an example - teaching about homosexual tolerance and transgender tolerance (some schools are); use of certain books to teach kids certain methods of thought/thinking (textbooks), some say Common Core education is social engineering.

Propaganda is misinforming children by telling them that gays and transgenders are "sinners".

Teaching children critical thinking skills is only "social engineering" if it prevents those who are using religious propaganda to misinform children about gays and transgenders.

No... That's not propaganda, that is religious principle and as long as it is taught as Religious principle, then it is "Education", because in fact, in Christianity... Sex outside of marriage is sin and Marriage is the Joining of One Male and One Female.

What is Propaganda, is 'advising' children that deviant sexuality is normal sexuality.

Because in point of fact, homosexuality not only deviates from the human sexual norm, it deviates as far from the human physiological standards as can be achieved, where the subjects at issue remain exclusively HUMAN.

It is one point of view, yet we live in a world with more than one......

Like I told Der_Te .... since there is more than 1 viewpoint; shouldn't the schools teach "all or none" - ?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Government does not "dictate content and what is taught" because that is always up to local school boards who are elected from the taxpayers in the school district.

Nonsense. Common Core is this very day an attack directly upon local education. Requiring that ALL PUBLIC SCHOOLS ADHERE TO THE SAME COURSE CURRICULUM. And more specifically, curriculum that is foreign to anyone over the age of 25 years; with fundamental practices which serve no purpose beyond deprogramming children from their inherent desire to learn.

To even suggest otherwise is a raw demonstration of one's ignorance of the issue and a profound indication that one is 'part of THE PROBLEM'.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

It is one point of view, yet we live in a world with more than one......

Yes... it is the point of view of those who present with an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder; OKA: Delusion.

 

[Christophera]

... not the Phish/email/internet kind, the socialistic kind e.g. what is being taught in our schools etc.

Does Social Engineering = Socialism. Is it Propaganda? Brain washing? Or is it something our society needs, to teach us "tolerance"?

Can you provide some specifics of what you are referring to here?

Ok, agree or disagree with the statement below:

By taxing residents in advance and then giving away education at no additional charge, government is able to claim a virtual monopoly on K-12 education in almost every school district. The government owns the land and the buildings. With very few exceptions, government operates the facilities and employs all of the teachers. Meaning, the Government can also dictate content and what is taught (it's implied, I believe...)

Correct, and it's a conspiracy that spans over 100 years. Search Norman Dodd, the Reese commission.

Take into account the fact that one faction saw that all American education heavily favored high tech aspects, while another faction was giving the bulk of high text manufacturing etc. to foriegn countries.

The social engineering you describe is even more disturbing in some ways because it works to move a generation away from values and principles that have natural law reasons to stand for rights, freedom, justice, peace and a quality environment for the future.

These are all reasons American parents need to educate themselves towards the lawful and peaceful revolution the constitution allows.

I have a thread about it here.

CDZ - A Lawful And Peaceful Revolution US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

There is also an education/demonstration by a poster who appears to be a cognitive infiltrator judging by the complete lack of accountability to simple principles of the framing documents.

It will give you an idea of the extents the conspiracy extends to in working to divide, confuse and mislead Americans working to defend the principles of the 1787 constitution with covert infiltration on web forums.

 

[Derideo_Te]

What is being taught in which schools?

I'll just use an example - teaching about homosexual tolerance and transgender tolerance (some schools are); use of certain books to teach kids certain methods of thought/thinking (textbooks), some say Common Core education is social engineering.

Propaganda is misinforming children by telling them that gays and transgenders are "sinners".

Teaching children critical thinking skills is only "social engineering" if it prevents those who are using religious propaganda to misinform children about gays and transgenders.

Would you concede that to a Christian, that it would appear to them like "social engineering" - or do you think that Christian's label it "social engineering" to cause uproar?

Fundamentalist Christians would apply those labels because they were prevented from corrupting the school curricula with their own "creation" disinformation agenda since it violates the 1st Amendment.

 

[Derideo_Te]

My Mom and Dad also taught tolerance and acceptance of people that were different...in the 1960's....I had a grandmother that owned a book store and so I was always reading stuff that was not social norms...Many, many wheys I was taught as a kid I changed when I experienced the real world and found them not to my liking....But then again, I didn't much pay attention to a lot of stuff in public schools, but when I had to start paying for college, I tried harder....
Just because you learn stuff does not mean you have to live it and are not able to change....that is a prison each person creates and can escape from....

What about what is taught in text books? How History is portrayed? Are they really being taught "just the facts" ... another example is the teaching of Evolution ...

I have a 13 year old in school and have a 31 year old that went to school..They teach them basically the same crap we learned, I am sure Columbus discovered America, even though he really didn't.....the only truths taught are in math........

Not only non-truths, but History books are written with "bias" - usually from a Liberal or Conservative bias, and, most often, Liberal. Agree?

Given that red states predominate in the production of history books there is a distinct conservative bias.

 

[Derideo_Te]

... not the Phish/email/internet kind, the socialistic kind e.g. what is being taught in our schools etc.

Does Social Engineering = Socialism. Is it Propaganda? Brain washing? Or is it something our society needs, to teach us "tolerance"?

Can you provide some specifics of what you are referring to here?

Ok, agree or disagree with the statement below:

By taxing residents in advance and then giving away education at no additional charge, government is able to claim a virtual monopoly on K-12 education in almost every school district. The government owns the land and the buildings. With very few exceptions, government operates the facilities and employs all of the teachers. Meaning, the Government can also dictate content and what is taught (it's implied, I believe...)

Government does not "dictate content and what is taught" because that is always up to local school boards who are elected from the taxpayers in the school district.

The school curriculum is pretty standard when it comes to the basics.

The distinction here is between "public schools" and "government schools". This nation doesn't have "government schools". It has a "public schools" which are funded through property taxes and controlled via local school boards. The local districts manage their own hiring of staff and the raise funds to build facilities.

"Government schools" are where a central government dept is responsible for all staffing, buildings, curriculum, books, supplies, activities, etc. That does not exist in the USA although it is quite common elsewhere in the world.

As far as monopoly goes that is just flat out wrong. There are plenty of private schools all over this nation. There are Catholic schools and for profit schools and Montessori schools everywhere you care to look.

So nothing in what you posted is accurate. The federal government does not set the curriculum. All the DoE does is provide funding and with that funding comes certain requirements that need to be met. No school district is required to take the funding or obliged to meet the requirements if they decline the funding.

Do you think schools have the responsibility to cover all view points?

If it falls within the curriculum and it has a legitimate educational value then there is merit in doing so.

But if it is nothing more than an attempt by a special interest group to impose their agenda on the curriculum then no, schools are not obliged to cater to view points that fall outside the purpose of providing an education.

 

[Derideo_Te]

What is being taught in which schools?

I'll just use an example - teaching about homosexual tolerance and transgender tolerance (some schools are); use of certain books to teach kids certain methods of thought/thinking (textbooks), some say Common Core education is social engineering.

Propaganda is misinforming children by telling them that gays and transgenders are "sinners".

Teaching children critical thinking skills is only "social engineering" if it prevents those who are using religious propaganda to misinform children about gays and transgenders.

No... That's not propaganda, that is religious principle and as long as it is taught as Religious principle, then it is "Education", because in fact, in Christianity... Sex outside of marriage is sin and Marriage is the Joining of One Male and One Female.

What is Propaganda, is 'advising' children that deviant sexuality is normal sexuality.

Because in point of fact, homosexuality not only deviates from the human sexual norm, it deviates as far from the human physiological standards as can be achieved, where the subjects at issue remain exclusively HUMAN.

It is one point of view, yet we live in a world with more than one......

Like I told Der_Te .... since there is more than 1 viewpoint; shouldn't the schools teach "all or none" - ?

No!

Taxpayer dollars provided to public schools are not intended for the purposes of promoting specific political and/or religious agendas.

Since people of different political parties and religions all send their kids to the same schools there is no value in introducing divisive topics that detract from the primary purpose of providing an education to all students.

 

[prison/con.net]

kids need to be home-schooled, but most parents don't KNOW enough to teach kids much of anything

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

No!

Taxpayer dollars provided to public schools are not intended for the purposes of promoting specific political and/or religious agendas.

Since people of different political parties and religions all send their kids to the same schools there is no value in introducing divisive topics that detract from the primary purpose of providing an education to all students.

Yet Common Core is saddled upon every school, without regard to the total rejection and overwhelming demand that it be scuttled, by the vast majority of parents who's children are being injured by it.

(Reader, Isn't it cool how deceptive these cranks are?

There was never going to be a homosexual demanding to be married.

It was ludicrous to believe that any homosexual would ever sue a Christian because they did not want to participate in the celebration of perversion.

And who in the United States could believe that in a war wherein the US was fighting Hussein and Osama, that people who claim to be "Americans" would elect, a Hussein Obama... who has for 7 years, promoted the interests of those who followed and fought for Hussein/Osama.

It is impossible to underestimate the Ideological Left, Reader. They reject the principles that sustain human viability, thus they are animated by evil.

It doesn't matter what they say... they bear no allegiance to the truth, because the reject the objectivity which defines truth.

 

[Josf]

An example of institutionalized deception exists in the form of a book my daughter was carrying around during her years in so called "High" school. The book was a well fabricated cover-up concerning a crime in progress called The Federal Reserve Act.

Of course there has been no trial by jury, which remains to be the law of the land if the Bill of Rights mean anything to anyone, so the criminals continue to get away with capital crimes in America such as this example of fraud called "Central Banking" and the associated cover-up that includes that example in that form of a book used to "teach" people these very destructive lies.

The lie can be summed up, for all who care to know, including any children who are exposed to these lies from many sources during their formative years.

A group of so called "private" profiteers work a confidence scheme whereby they charge the "public" for ink, paper, printing, accounting, and distribution of false promises to pay on demand a value of "money" (purchasing power) written on the paper. That is a bill, like a bill given to a customer at a table buying food at a restaurant. The "private" profiteers give the "public" a bill, which is a charge, which is payable to the "private" profiteers, for services rendered. The "public" pays for the "money" printed by the "private" profiteers and then the "private" profiteers turn around and loan that paper back to the "public" in order to finance war of aggression or war of defense, it matters not to the "private" profiteers which side borrows the "money" at interest.

Interest is very interesting too; for those who care to know. For those who care not to know, since they are busy, young, full of life, eager to live, and can't be bothered with knowing the facts, such books that explain how the criminals perpetrate their crimes under the color of law, are worth the potential energy in the paper, like fire wood. The lies believed by the past generation, thankfully, are of no use to the current generation, so there is hope in that demonstrable fact.

 

[Christophera]

No!

Taxpayer dollars provided to public schools are not intended for the purposes of promoting specific political and/or religious agendas.

Since people of different political parties and religions all send their kids to the same schools there is no value in introducing divisive topics that detract from the primary purpose of providing an education to all students.

Yet Common Core is saddled upon every school, without regard to the total rejection and overwhelming demand that it be scuttled, by the vast majority of parents who's children are being injured by it.

(Reader, Isn't it cool how deceptive these cranks are?

There was never going to be a homosexual demanding to be married.

It was ludicrous to believe that any homosexual would ever sue a Christian because they did not want to participate in the celebration of perversion.

And who in the United States could believe that in a war wherein the US was fighting Hussein and Osama, that people who claim to be "Americans" would elect, a Hussein Obama... who has for 7 years, promoted the interests of those who followed and fought for Hussein/Osama.

It is impossible to underestimate the Ideological Left, Reader. They reject the principles that sustain human viability, thus they are animated by evil.

It doesn't matter what they say... they bear no allegiance to the truth, because the reject the objectivity which defines truth.

That in itself, as brutal as it is, appears to be the truth.

Therein it could be said that our ability to survive and evolve on this planet could be at stake.

 

[Derideo_Te]

An example of institutionalized deception exists in the form of a book my daughter was carrying around during her years in so called "High" school. The book was a well fabricated cover-up concerning a crime in progress called The Federal Reserve Act.

Of course there has been no trial by jury, which remains to be the law of the land if the Bill of Rights mean anything to anyone, so the criminals continue to get away with capital crimes in America such as this example of fraud called "Central Banking" and the associated cover-up that includes that example in that form of a book used to "teach" people these very destructive lies.

The lie can be summed up, for all who care to know, including any children who are exposed to these lies from many sources during their formative years.

A group of so called "private" profiteers work a confidence scheme whereby they charge the "public" for ink, paper, printing, accounting, and distribution of false promises to pay on demand a value of "money" (purchasing power) written on the paper. That is a bill, like a bill given to a customer at a table buying food at a restaurant. The "private" profiteers give the "public" a bill, which is a charge, which is payable to the "private" profiteers, for services rendered. The "public" pays for the "money" printed by the "private" profiteers and then the "private" profiteers turn around and loan that paper back to the "public" in order to finance war of aggression or war of defense, it matters not to the "private" profiteers which side borrows the "money" at interest.

Interest is very interesting too; for those who care to know. For those who care not to know, since they are busy, young, full of life, eager to live, and can't be bothered with knowing the facts, such books that explain how the criminals perpetrate their crimes under the color of law, are worth the potential energy in the paper, like fire wood. The lies believed by the past generation, thankfully, are of no use to the current generation, so there is hope in that demonstrable fact.

Off topic and an attempt to derail the thread is a violation of CDZ rules.

The Federal Reserve has nothing whatsoever to do with Social Engineering and Propaganda.

If you wish to discuss your topic then please start your own thread.

Thank you.

 

[Josf]

"Does Social Engineering = Socialism. Is it Propaganda? Brain washing? Or is it something our society needs, to teach us "tolerance"?"

That is the topic? Yes, no, maybe?

Is socialism equated with communism, as in the 10 planks of communism? Yes, no, maybe?

Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

"5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking. "

Is the above an example of "Social Engineering"? Yes, no, maybe?

Does one individual speak for the entire sum total of individuals discussing this topic (quoted above) in this Clean Debate Zone where a change of the topic from the topic to the rules published for the Clean Debate Zone has been offered by one forum member to other forum members?

"Off topic and an attempt to derail the thread is a violation of CDZ rules."

Is that a subjective opinion, or an established fact, or an attempt to socially engineer the other members of the forum into believing that the individual's opinion is somehow factual?

 

[paddymurphy]

... not the Phish/email/internet kind, the socialistic kind e.g. what is being taught in our schools etc.

Does Social Engineering = Socialism. Is it Propaganda? Brain washing? Or is it something our society needs, to teach us "tolerance"?

Can you provide some specifics of what you are referring to here?

Ok, agree or disagree with the statement below:

By taxing residents in advance and then giving away education at no additional charge, government is able to claim a virtual monopoly on K-12 education in almost every school district. The government owns the land and the buildings. With very few exceptions, government operates the facilities and employs all of the teachers. Meaning, the Government can also dictate content and what is taught (it's implied, I believe...)

Correct, and it's a conspiracy that spans over 100 years. Search Norman Dodd, the Reese commission.

Take into account the fact that one faction saw that all American education heavily favored high tech aspects, while another faction was giving the bulk of high text manufacturing etc. to foriegn countries.

The social engineering you describe is even more disturbing in some ways because it works to move a generation away from values and principles that have natural law reasons to stand for rights, freedom, justice, peace and a quality environment for the future.

These are all reasons American parents need to educate themselves towards the lawful and peaceful revolution the constitution allows.

I have a thread about it here.

CDZ - A Lawful And Peaceful Revolution US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

There is also an education/demonstration by a poster who appears to be a cognitive infiltrator judging by the complete lack of accountability to simple principles of the framing documents.

It will give you an idea of the extents the conspiracy extends to in working to divide, confuse and mislead Americans working to defend the principles of the 1787 constitution with covert infiltration on web forums.

What is a cognitive infiltrator?

 

[Derideo_Te]

"Does Social Engineering = Socialism. Is it Propaganda? Brain washing? Or is it something our society needs, to teach us "tolerance"?"

That is the topic? Yes, no, maybe?

Is socialism equated with communism, as in the 10 planks of communism? Yes, no, maybe?

Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

"5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking. "

Is the above an example of "Social Engineering"? Yes, no, maybe?

Does one individual speak for the entire sum total of individuals discussing this topic (quoted above) in this Clean Debate Zone where a change of the topic from the topic to the rules published for the Clean Debate Zone has been offered by one forum member to other forum members?

"Off topic and an attempt to derail the thread is a violation of CDZ rules."

Is that a subjective opinion, or an established fact, or an attempt to socially engineer the other members of the forum into believing that the individual's opinion is somehow factual?

Why not read the USMB rules for yourself instead?

• No Cross posting. Cross posting is posting the same content repeatedly or in multiple forums. Pick one.
• Off-topic posts may be edited, trashed, deleted, or moved to an appropriate forum as per administrator & moderator discretion at any time within any forum and/or sub forum.

 

[Josf]

"Why not read the USMB rules for yourself instead?"

If you are an administrator having absolute control over content and your decision is made to police this site according to your interpretation of your published rules then why waste time changing the TOPIC from the TOPIC to a debate over the rules of the Forum? Why not simply enforce the rules as you deem the rules to be in fact?

The topic is Social Engineering. The meaning of the term Social Engineering is not lost on me. I think I get it. So I think it is perfectly within the boundaries of a Social Engineering Topic to exemplify Social Engineering with a clear example of Social Engineering such as the Social Engineering done in the form of an ongoing cover-up, of an ongoing crime, known euphemistically as so called "central banking."

When moderation is done efficiently those moderated are made aware of why they are moderated. When moderation is not done efficiently the actual Topic continues to be derailed by those who change from the Topic, to arguments over what is, or is not, the Topic: yes, no, or maybe?

I prefer the topic instead of repetitive claims of wrongdoing made by one forum member to another forum member therefore I will offer another example of Social Engineering currently going on here in this place called America.

"10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested !! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet."

"Education" (so called) is not free from deceptions infesting the information transfers that constitute learning; as those who know offer knowledge to those who do not know.

 

[Derideo_Te]

"Why not read the USMB rules for yourself instead?"

If you are an administrator having absolute control over content and your decision is made to police this site according to your interpretation of your published rules then why waste time changing the TOPIC from the TOPIC to a debate over the rules of the Forum? Why not simply enforce the rules as you deem the rules to be in fact?

The topic is Social Engineering. The meaning of the term Social Engineering is not lost on me. I think I get it. So I think it is perfectly within the boundaries of a Social Engineering Topic to exemplify Social Engineering with a clear example of Social Engineering such as the Social Engineering done in the form of an ongoing cover-up, of an ongoing crime, known euphemistically as so called "central banking."

When moderation is done efficiently those moderated are made aware of why they are moderated. When moderation is not done efficiently the actual Topic continues to be derailed by those who change from the Topic, to arguments over what is, or is not, the Topic: yes, no, or maybe?

I prefer the topic instead of repetitive claims of wrongdoing made by one forum member to another forum member therefore I will offer another example of Social Engineering currently going on here in this place called America.

"10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested !! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet."

"Education" (so called) is not free from deceptions infesting the information transfers that constitute learning; as those who know offer knowledge to those who do not know.

Since the topic includes Propaganda it is interesting to see you regurgitating Libertarian propaganda on both banking and education.

Yes, Libertarianism is Social Engineering on a par with Communism IMO.

In fact Libertarianism is the mirror image of Communism in that it contains all of the very worst aspects of Communism with none of the benefits, no matter how paltry those were.

The only beneficiaries of your Libertarian Propaganda are the wealthy. Everyone else is left to suffer alone in a "society" that has more in common with "dog eat dog" than civilization.

Now feel free to post your Libertarian propaganda in this thread or return to your original thread where they won't be exposed for what they really are.

Your choice.

 

[Christophera]

... not the Phish/email/internet kind, the socialistic kind e.g. what is being taught in our schools etc.

Does Social Engineering = Socialism. Is it Propaganda? Brain washing? Or is it something our society needs, to teach us "tolerance"?

Can you provide some specifics of what you are referring to here?

Ok, agree or disagree with the statement below:

By taxing residents in advance and then giving away education at no additional charge, government is able to claim a virtual monopoly on K-12 education in almost every school district. The government owns the land and the buildings. With very few exceptions, government operates the facilities and employs all of the teachers. Meaning, the Government can also dictate content and what is taught (it's implied, I believe...)

Correct, and it's a conspiracy that spans over 100 years. Search Norman Dodd, the Reese commission.

Take into account the fact that one faction saw that all American education heavily favored high tech aspects, while another faction was giving the bulk of high text manufacturing etc. to foriegn countries.

The social engineering you describe is even more disturbing in some ways because it works to move a generation away from values and principles that have natural law reasons to stand for rights, freedom, justice, peace and a quality environment for the future.

These are all reasons American parents need to educate themselves towards the lawful and peaceful revolution the constitution allows.

I have a thread about it here.

CDZ - A Lawful And Peaceful Revolution US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

There is also an education/demonstration by a poster who appears to be a cognitive infiltrator judging by the complete lack of accountability to simple principles of the framing documents.

It will give you an idea of the extents the conspiracy extends to in working to divide, confuse and mislead Americans working to defend the principles of the 1787 constitution with covert infiltration on web forums.

What is a cognitive infiltrator?

One of a group covertly working to foul the cognition of social activists working to understand social problems or solutions to them.

url]Obama confidant s spine-chilling proposal - Salon.com

How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate Deceive and Destroy Reputations - The Intercept

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/snowden_cyber_offensive2_nbc_document.pdf

British spy agency taps cables shares with NSA Guardian
For decades, the NSA and GCHQ have worked as close partners, sharing intelligence under an arrangement known as the UKUSA agreement. They also collaborate with eavesdropping agencies in Canada, Australia and New Zealand under an arrangement known as the "Five Eyes" alliance.

They can work alone or together to promote information useless for creating change, or the same way directly opposing unity upon effective action promoting change.

Alone they use verbose rhetoric with a high degree of selectivity often based in focus upon perspective dominated by or originating with cognitive distortions.

The average forum has a cluster that distract by constantly posting MSM stories or other sensational topics. Another cluster posts about controversy.

Altogether if you get used to the dysfunction, it looks halfway normal. The one thing that stands out is they a appear to be complaining about government or society of and from its influences, BUT refuse to discuss anything that might actually solve the problems they complain about or post of.

Critical thinking cannot be accomplished with distortions.

 

[Bonzi]

Without Government and Media influence, there is no chance the US is where they are today.
More liberal, and more contentious between the conservative and liberal minded people.
You can say this is the effect of progress, but I don't view where our country is now as progress.

I definitely think the is a "type" of Social Engineering going on, people can say it's about equality for all and fairness, but I only see it going in certain directions... more fair to some, and less fair to others