So you want better paying jobs?

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The US was doing quite well before Ray-Gun

dear, that was just after WW2 when we had the only standing economy left in the world!!

Dea, Ray-Gun went full force allow corporations to move to Mexico.
Of course, Mexico didn't realize that when the corporations saw China would be even cheaper, we screwed Mexico.
And, of course, let's not forget the elimination of the IT field with a glut of Chinese and Japanese who couldn't speak English much better than Indians could.
Ironic that the Chinese and Japanese wanted more money than Indians so in 1998, they were sent packing.

so does the liberal
want to ban trade between individuals, states, and countries so no one faces unfair competition!!!

"ban trade"
Please quote where I posted such.

dear if you want to limit it you might as well ban it since that is where trade wars lead. Do you have the IQ to understand?

 

[Indeependent]

The US was doing quite well before Ray-Gun

dear, that was just after WW2 when we had the only standing economy left in the world!!

Dea, Ray-Gun went full force allow corporations to move to Mexico.
Of course, Mexico didn't realize that when the corporations saw China would be even cheaper, we screwed Mexico.
And, of course, let's not forget the elimination of the IT field with a glut of Chinese and Japanese who couldn't speak English much better than Indians could.
Ironic that the Chinese and Japanese wanted more money than Indians so in 1998, they were sent packing.

so does the liberal
want to ban trade between individuals, states, and countries so no one faces unfair competition!!!

"ban trade"
Please quote where I posted such.

dear if you want to limit it you might as well ban it since that is where trade wars lead. Do you have the IQ to understand?

So you're stating for all to read that you have a better understanding of economics than Ricardo?

 

[Correll]

Simply because only no Government contains no socialism.

No.. You are conflating a concept of social cooperative with tenets of Socialism. Granted, the ideology of Socialism is constructed upon this concept ...that does not make them the same.

Dear, socialism is a requirement for Government as we know it.

Logical fallacy of argument by Assertion.

Proof by assertion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"Proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction.[1] Sometimes, this may be repeated until challenges dry up, at which point it is asserted as fact due to its not being contradicted (argumentum ad nauseam).[2] In other cases, its repetition may be cited as evidence of its truth, in a variant of the appeal to authority or appeal to belief fallacies."

No dear, it comes from you having nothing but fallacy and repeal, instead of a better argument; and, ceding the point as a result.

YOu have done nothing to support your specious argument that all government is socialism.

I have sited definitions of the words you misuse to show that your meanings are incorrect.

For you to ignore the fact that I have proved that your words are incorrect, and to keep repeating them is, as I said, the Logical Fallacy of argument by Assertion.

For you to lie to me about my own words and claim that I have "ceded the point" is a lie and the act of a jerk.

Why are you like this?

 

[Correll]

In other words, upgrading an entire (agriculture) sector via command economics can be an investment in the general welfare.

100% stupid liberal!!!! in the USSR and Red China it was an investment in killing 120 million souls

Dear, it was bad management. Only shills can't tell the difference.

Are you sure?

Bloody oppression seems to be present the vast majority of communist regimes.

Could be a integral part of the system.

 

[Correll]

Dear, it was bad management.

exactly Hitler, Stalin and Mao were the worst liberal managers in human history!! Thats why libertarians don't want to give them another chance

Dear, we are in an Information Age now. Did you and the right, miss it?

1. So, are you finally admitting that your agenda is communism?

2. What about the Information Age gives you reason to think that Communism would NOT be a bloody nightmare now?

2b It was actually an asshole move to state such a point as though it was obvious, when there is absolutely nothing obvious about it. We, and I speak for everyone in this thread, have been very patient with your bizarre style and dishonesty. YOu should show more civility in return.

 

[danielpalos]

Simply because only no Government contains no socialism.

No.. You are conflating a concept of social cooperative with tenets of Socialism. Granted, the ideology of Socialism is constructed upon this concept ...that does not make them the same.

Dear, socialism is a requirement for Government as we know it.

Logical fallacy of argument by Assertion.

Proof by assertion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"Proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction.[1] Sometimes, this may be repeated until challenges dry up, at which point it is asserted as fact due to its not being contradicted (argumentum ad nauseam).[2] In other cases, its repetition may be cited as evidence of its truth, in a variant of the appeal to authority or appeal to belief fallacies."

No dear, it comes from you having nothing but fallacy and repeal, instead of a better argument; and, ceding the point as a result.

YOu have done nothing to support your specious argument that all government is socialism.

I have sited definitions of the words you misuse to show that your meanings are incorrect.

For you to ignore the fact that I have proved that your words are incorrect, and to keep repeating them is, as I said, the Logical Fallacy of argument by Assertion.

For you to lie to me about my own words and claim that I have "ceded the point" is a lie and the act of a jerk.

Why are you like this?

You have to cite an encyclopedia or simply appeal to ignorance through special pleading.

 

[danielpalos]

In other words, upgrading an entire (agriculture) sector via command economics can be an investment in the general welfare.

100% stupid liberal!!!! in the USSR and Red China it was an investment in killing 120 million souls

Dear, it was bad management. Only shills can't tell the difference.

Are you sure?

Bloody oppression seems to be present the vast majority of communist regimes.

Could be a integral part of the system.

Bad management accounts for all of it.

 

[danielpalos]

Dear, it was bad management.

exactly Hitler, Stalin and Mao were the worst liberal managers in human history!! Thats why libertarians don't want to give them another chance

Dear, we are in an Information Age now. Did you and the right, miss it?

1. So, are you finally admitting that your agenda is communism?

2. What about the Information Age gives you reason to think that Communism would NOT be a bloody nightmare now?

2b It was actually an asshole move to state such a point as though it was obvious, when there is absolutely nothing obvious about it. We, and I speak for everyone in this thread, have been very patient with your bizarre style and dishonesty. YOu should show more civility in return.

I admit you prefer fallacy to admitting you are wrong. Socialism and Communism are distinguishable.

 

[Correll]

No.. You are conflating a concept of social cooperative with tenets of Socialism. Granted, the ideology of Socialism is constructed upon this concept ...that does not make them the same.

Dear, socialism is a requirement for Government as we know it.

Logical fallacy of argument by Assertion.

Proof by assertion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"Proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction.[1] Sometimes, this may be repeated until challenges dry up, at which point it is asserted as fact due to its not being contradicted (argumentum ad nauseam).[2] In other cases, its repetition may be cited as evidence of its truth, in a variant of the appeal to authority or appeal to belief fallacies."

No dear, it comes from you having nothing but fallacy and repeal, instead of a better argument; and, ceding the point as a result.

YOu have done nothing to support your specious argument that all government is socialism.

I have sited definitions of the words you misuse to show that your meanings are incorrect.

For you to ignore the fact that I have proved that your words are incorrect, and to keep repeating them is, as I said, the Logical Fallacy of argument by Assertion.

For you to lie to me about my own words and claim that I have "ceded the point" is a lie and the act of a jerk.

Why are you like this?

You have to cite an encyclopedia or simply appeal to ignorance through special pleading.

Nonsense.

Dictionaries are fine sources for the definition of simple words.

YOu have done nothing to support your specious argument that all government is socialism.

I have sited definitions of the words you misuse to show that your meanings are incorrect.

For you to ignore the fact that I have proved that your words are incorrect, and to keep repeating them is, as I said, the Logical Fallacy of argument by Assertion.

For you to lie to me about my own words and claim that I have "ceded the point" is a lie and the act of a jerk.

Why are you like this?

 

[Correll]

In other words, upgrading an entire (agriculture) sector via command economics can be an investment in the general welfare.

100% stupid liberal!!!! in the USSR and Red China it was an investment in killing 120 million souls

Dear, it was bad management. Only shills can't tell the difference.

Are you sure?

Bloody oppression seems to be present the vast majority of communist regimes.

Could be a integral part of the system.

Bad management accounts for all of it.

Logical fallacy of argument from Assertion. Again.

All you seem to have is logical fallacy and various types of nonsense.

 

[Correll]

Dear, it was bad management.

exactly Hitler, Stalin and Mao were the worst liberal managers in human history!! Thats why libertarians don't want to give them another chance

Dear, we are in an Information Age now. Did you and the right, miss it?

1. So, are you finally admitting that your agenda is communism?

2. What about the Information Age gives you reason to think that Communism would NOT be a bloody nightmare now?

2b It was actually an asshole move to state such a point as though it was obvious, when there is absolutely nothing obvious about it. We, and I speak for everyone in this thread, have been very patient with your bizarre style and dishonesty. YOu should show more civility in return.

I admit you prefer fallacy to admitting you are wrong. Socialism and Communism are distinguishable.

1.The way you mangle the English language nothing is distinguishable.

2. You seemed to just advance the idea that something about the Information Age would make Communism less of a bloody nightmare. Either that or you just spouted a complete non sequitur. Which given that it's you is a strong possibility. Naturally your response did nothing to clarify that.

3. If you were advancing that idea, I repeat my request for explanation as above.

4. If not, than WTF were you trying to say?

 

[danielpalos]

Dear, socialism is a requirement for Government as we know it.

Logical fallacy of argument by Assertion.

Proof by assertion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"Proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction.[1] Sometimes, this may be repeated until challenges dry up, at which point it is asserted as fact due to its not being contradicted (argumentum ad nauseam).[2] In other cases, its repetition may be cited as evidence of its truth, in a variant of the appeal to authority or appeal to belief fallacies."

No dear, it comes from you having nothing but fallacy and repeal, instead of a better argument; and, ceding the point as a result.

YOu have done nothing to support your specious argument that all government is socialism.

I have sited definitions of the words you misuse to show that your meanings are incorrect.

For you to ignore the fact that I have proved that your words are incorrect, and to keep repeating them is, as I said, the Logical Fallacy of argument by Assertion.

For you to lie to me about my own words and claim that I have "ceded the point" is a lie and the act of a jerk.

Why are you like this?

You have to cite an encyclopedia or simply appeal to ignorance through special pleading.

Nonsense.

Dictionaries are fine sources for the definition of simple words.

YOu have done nothing to support your specious argument that all government is socialism.

I have sited definitions of the words you misuse to show that your meanings are incorrect.

For you to ignore the fact that I have proved that your words are incorrect, and to keep repeating them is, as I said, the Logical Fallacy of argument by Assertion.

For you to lie to me about my own words and claim that I have "ceded the point" is a lie and the act of a jerk.

Why are you like this?

Why are you like this. You are merely appealing to inaccurate authority. You must reference an encyclopedia or simply be full of fallacy.

 

[danielpalos]

In other words, upgrading an entire (agriculture) sector via command economics can be an investment in the general welfare.

100% stupid liberal!!!! in the USSR and Red China it was an investment in killing 120 million souls

Dear, it was bad management. Only shills can't tell the difference.

Are you sure?

Bloody oppression seems to be present the vast majority of communist regimes.

Could be a integral part of the system.

Bad management accounts for all of it.

Logical fallacy of argument from Assertion. Again.

All you seem to have is logical fallacy and various types of nonsense.

Dear, I have advanced an assertion and you are unable to refute it.

 

[danielpalos]

Dear, it was bad management.

exactly Hitler, Stalin and Mao were the worst liberal managers in human history!! Thats why libertarians don't want to give them another chance

Dear, we are in an Information Age now. Did you and the right, miss it?

1. So, are you finally admitting that your agenda is communism?

2. What about the Information Age gives you reason to think that Communism would NOT be a bloody nightmare now?

2b It was actually an asshole move to state such a point as though it was obvious, when there is absolutely nothing obvious about it. We, and I speak for everyone in this thread, have been very patient with your bizarre style and dishonesty. YOu should show more civility in return.

I admit you prefer fallacy to admitting you are wrong. Socialism and Communism are distinguishable.

1.The way you mangle the English language nothing is distinguishable.

2. You seemed to just advance the idea that something about the Information Age would make Communism less of a bloody nightmare. Either that or you just spouted a complete non sequitur. Which given that it's you is a strong possibility. Naturally your response did nothing to clarify that.

3. If you were advancing that idea, I repeat my request for explanation as above.

4. If not, than WTF were you trying to say?

It was answered in precious posts. You just need a clue and a Cause.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

YOu have done nothing to support your specious argument that all government is socialism.

why not agree with the idiot? We do have a mixed economy with elements of socialism. If you agree with the idiot then he has to explain why we should have all socialism.

 

[danielpalos]

YOu have done nothing to support your specious argument that all government is socialism.

why not agree with the idiot? We do have a mixed economy with elements of socialism. If you agree with the idiot then he has to explain why we should have all socialism.

that is your red herring, shillery. my position is that our Founding Fathers already told us how much socialism we need; merely, sufficient to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States.

 

[shadow355]

Some years ago, I took a test for a State Law Enforcement Agency ; in my home state.

They wanted to stick me on the opposite side of the state.......that I wanted assigned. I wanted to work "my way" up to as job in explosives, or get that as my first assignment.

I declined the job, because I was going to the north side.....instead of the south side of the state. The North side has the snobs and disrespectful people......and the south side has the crooked and corrupt politicians, but at least the crooked and corrupt politicians respect the badge.

Demo ( sniffle - sniffle ). I was around it when I was in the Military in Texas. Ohhhh, I wanted that so bad.

Shadow 355

 

[Correll]

Logical fallacy of argument by Assertion.

Proof by assertion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"Proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction.[1] Sometimes, this may be repeated until challenges dry up, at which point it is asserted as fact due to its not being contradicted (argumentum ad nauseam).[2] In other cases, its repetition may be cited as evidence of its truth, in a variant of the appeal to authority or appeal to belief fallacies."

No dear, it comes from you having nothing but fallacy and repeal, instead of a better argument; and, ceding the point as a result.

YOu have done nothing to support your specious argument that all government is socialism.

I have sited definitions of the words you misuse to show that your meanings are incorrect.

For you to ignore the fact that I have proved that your words are incorrect, and to keep repeating them is, as I said, the Logical Fallacy of argument by Assertion.

For you to lie to me about my own words and claim that I have "ceded the point" is a lie and the act of a jerk.

Why are you like this?

You have to cite an encyclopedia or simply appeal to ignorance through special pleading.

Nonsense.

Dictionaries are fine sources for the definition of simple words.

YOu have done nothing to support your specious argument that all government is socialism.

I have sited definitions of the words you misuse to show that your meanings are incorrect.

For you to ignore the fact that I have proved that your words are incorrect, and to keep repeating them is, as I said, the Logical Fallacy of argument by Assertion.

For you to lie to me about my own words and claim that I have "ceded the point" is a lie and the act of a jerk.

Why are you like this?

Why are you like this. You are merely appealing to inaccurate authority. You must reference an encyclopedia or simply be full of fallacy.

if you think an encyclopedia link has information about the word socialist that trumps the dictionary meaning of the word, you post it, and cut and paste the specific portion that supposedly makes your case.

Oh, and I see that you ARE capable of speaking clearly and concisely so knock off the other bs.

 

[Correll]

100% stupid liberal!!!! in the USSR and Red China it was an investment in killing 120 million souls

Dear, it was bad management. Only shills can't tell the difference.

Are you sure?

Bloody oppression seems to be present the vast majority of communist regimes.

Could be a integral part of the system.

Bad management accounts for all of it.

Logical fallacy of argument from Assertion. Again.

All you seem to have is logical fallacy and various types of nonsense.

Dear, I have advanced an assertion and you are unable to refute it.

Totally did.

 

[danielpalos]

No dear, it comes from you having nothing but fallacy and repeal, instead of a better argument; and, ceding the point as a result.

YOu have done nothing to support your specious argument that all government is socialism.

I have sited definitions of the words you misuse to show that your meanings are incorrect.

For you to ignore the fact that I have proved that your words are incorrect, and to keep repeating them is, as I said, the Logical Fallacy of argument by Assertion.

For you to lie to me about my own words and claim that I have "ceded the point" is a lie and the act of a jerk.

Why are you like this?

You have to cite an encyclopedia or simply appeal to ignorance through special pleading.

Nonsense.

Dictionaries are fine sources for the definition of simple words.

YOu have done nothing to support your specious argument that all government is socialism.

I have sited definitions of the words you misuse to show that your meanings are incorrect.

For you to ignore the fact that I have proved that your words are incorrect, and to keep repeating them is, as I said, the Logical Fallacy of argument by Assertion.

For you to lie to me about my own words and claim that I have "ceded the point" is a lie and the act of a jerk.

Why are you like this?

Why are you like this. You are merely appealing to inaccurate authority. You must reference an encyclopedia or simply be full of fallacy.

if you think an encyclopedia link has information about the word socialist that trumps the dictionary meaning of the word, you post it, and cut and paste the specific portion that supposedly makes your case.

Oh, and I see that you ARE capable of speaking clearly and concisely so knock off the other bs.

sure, shill.

Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership and/or social control[1] of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy,[2][3] as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.[4][5] "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership (achieved by nationalization), citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.[6] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[7]--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism