So who is really to blame for Donald Trump sitting in the Oval office?

[Toddsterpatriot]

How quickly we forget that Hillary got 3 million more votes than the orange piece of shit. This was a stolen election, folks. Accomplished through sophisticated voter suppression tactics in key swing states, allowing the under-qualified, know-nothing pussy grabbing embarrassment to America to sneak in. Even KellyAnne Conway admitted that they didn't focus on the popular vote, that they only focused on the electoral college. It was rigged. Only Trump's "it's rigged" bullshit was all a diversion from his own party's actions. Voter suppression and Interstate Crosscheck, all courtesy of the corrupt GOP.

How quickly we forget that Hillary got 3 million more votes than the orange piece of shit.

Doesn't she feel stupid........

This was a stolen election, folks.

LOL! But enough about the Dem primary.

Accomplished through sophisticated voter suppression tactics in key swing states

Darn those Republicans, trying to stop illegal aliens, felons and dead people from voting. No fair!!!

Even KellyAnne Conway admitted that they didn't focus on the popular vote,

Did Hillary focus on the popular vote? DERP!

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

How quickly we forget that Hillary got 3 million more votes than the orange piece of shit. This was a stolen election, folks. Accomplished through sophisticated voter suppression tactics in key swing states, allowing the under-qualified, know-nothing pussy grabbing embarrassment to America to sneak in. Even KellyAnne Conway admitted that they didn't focus on the popular vote, that they only focused on the electoral college. It was rigged. Only Trump's "it's rigged" bullshit was all a diversion from his own party's actions. Voter suppression and Interstate Crosscheck, all courtesy of the corrupt GOP.

Hate to break reality to ya but the election wasn't stolen. The Silent White Majority made sure of that!

She won the popular vote by 3 million votes. There's no argument about that. Trump is really the most illegitimate President to ever be sworn into the Oval Office. Winning out of an accumulated vote total out of 3 blue states by 73K is really nothing to brag about.

Especially since the goal posts were moved on Hillary Clinton's side of the field--explained in post # 178 on this thread.

No, Obama was the true illegitimate president due to him not being a natural born citizen usurping Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5.

 

[Kondor3]

Democrat morons are to blame for Trump.

Which is a large part of what makes it so freaking wonderful every single day since he won the election. They still haven't figured it out.

No dear. Idiots who voted for the orange sociopath are responsible for trump.

No... it's on the Democrats...

1. they chose to stand alongside an invasion force of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens, rather than their own fellow countrymen
2. they shoved the Gay Agenda down America's throat - debasing real Marriage, making it possible for self-identifying pervs to switch privies, etc.
3. they made a train wreck out of foreign policy (today, it's even worse, but that was in the future, back then)
4. they served-up and perpetuated unfavorable trade deals that were harming America economically
5. they perfected and refined the art of political correctness and public shaming directed against anyone who doesn't think like they do
6. they shut down Republican Party rallies by infiltrating the crowds and making it impossible for candidates to attend due to safety concerns
7. they ignored White Straight Christian Middle America and the Blue Collar Class to their very great peril and humiliating failure
8. they sold-out to the highest bidder who funneled money to keep the DNC afloat
9. they marginalized Bernie Sanders and stacked the deck against him within the DNC and its operatives, to the consternation of Young People
10. the DNC Chair was forced to resign on the morning of the first day of the Democratic National Convention - very bad optics
11. their candidate's spouse secretly met with the US AG on an airport tarmac one day before the candidate was declared clear - horrible optics
12. they stood alongside Muslims rather than their own Christian countrymen
13. their candidate and their President repeatedly engaged in arrogant Ruling Elitist commentary about supporters of the Opposition
14. they fielded a truly $hitty candidate with more horns on her than a herd of Texas steers

And then, doubling down on Stupid, shortly after your grotesque humiliation of November 8, 2016, you anointed a Hispanic as DNC Chair and a frigging Muslim as DNC Vice-Chair... that requires an extra-special kind of Stupidity that only the self-delusional, emoting, teenage-angst idiots in the Democratic Party would be capable of attempting.

I mean... damn... ya just can't make that $hit up... sheer idiocy, and that so soon after being soundly bitch-slapped by Middle America, outside its urban enclaves.

No... it's on the Democrats, alright.

The sooner that you-and-yours have a Come-to-Jesus Moment... take a long, hard, objective, pragmatic look in the mirror... and come to that realization, the sooner you'll be in a position to begin fixing what is wrong on your side of the aisle, and begin taking power back from greedy Corporatists whom your foolishness allowed to attain high office.

Some of you are so heavily vested in aspects (planks) of your platform that you're going to be playing the Queen of Denial role forevermore, and will simply never learn.

The more pragmatic majority amongst you, however, will figure it out, dump radical aspects of your platform that Americans find offensive, and get back in the game.

 

[jasonnfree]

Not enough choices in the vote section. No option for us ex democrats who are fed up with open border and anti American lefties running that party.

 

[Norman]

I am certain that every one of us have thought--how could this country screw up this badly. Are there people that are really this stupid in this country? Nominating someone that never won a single debate during the primary or with Hillary Clinton. Whom continually exhibited his lack of experience, his lack of knowledge, lack of everything, including respect & dignity that represents the office of the Presidency.

So how were millions of people convinced that he was the right one out of 17 GOP candidates? A few of them much more qualified and competent to become POTUS. If anyone ever tells you that Trump won a single debate, or walked away believing he was competent enough to be POTUS--they're lying through their teeth.

This about summed up Trump's debate skills.

I think it started 2 decades ago, by a large segment of the population insisting on living in a right wing media bubble. FOX NEWS, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity & several others. Those that take information, regurgitate it, then spoon feed it back to their audiences in 3 or more daily hours of right wing hyperbole, half truths, tons of misinformation, and enough conspiracy theories to fill the capital building from floor to ceiling. All done to give their audience's--The news that they wanted to hear.

"It is not entirely true that Trump engineered a “hostile takeover” of the GOP. As Conor Friedersdorf wrote last year in the Atlantic: “the elements of the party that sent pro-Trump cues to primary voters—Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, Bill O'Reilly, Sarah Palin, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Jeff Sessions, Rudi Guiliani, Rick Scott, Jan Brewer, Joe Arpaio, Breitbart.com, The Drudge Report, The New York Post, —are simply more powerful, relative to National Review, Mitt Romney, John McCain, and other ‘Trump is unacceptable’ forces, than previously thought.”

The GOP That Failed

Some of them, of course, are now running like a bunch of rats leaving a sinking ship.

FOX NEWS who gave Trump an unprecedented amount of free coverage during the primary season, while ignoring all other GOP candidates, whom are also running for cover & actually reported on 3 criminal Federal Grand Jury indictments and one guilty plea in this manner.



The above spent many years convincing their audiences that all other media outlets were fake news. This article explains it in detail. How the stage was set for Donald Trump long ago.
Donald Trump broke the conservative media

Of course,Trump supporters have their own issues also. The Dunning--Kruger effect is very interesting in the below article.

A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains

So spend some time actually reading the articles I have linked too and watch the video--then cast your vote in the poll.

Patriotic Americans who realized that instead of America losing losing and losing more, we could win and win until we get tired of it.

"Blame" is not the correct word though. The patriotic Americans get the rightful CREDIT for the achievement that is putting Trump into the office. Let's not forget that he has already been a better president than Reagan.

 

[oreo]

I am certain that every one of us have thought--how could this country screw up this badly. Are there people that are really this stupid in this country? Nominating someone that never won a single debate during the primary or with Hillary Clinton. Whom continually exhibited his lack of experience, his lack of knowledge, lack of everything, including respect & dignity that represents the office of the Presidency.

So how were millions of people convinced that he was the right one out of 17 GOP candidates? A few of them much more qualified and competent to become POTUS. If anyone ever tells you that Trump won a single debate, or walked away believing he was competent enough to be POTUS--they're lying through their teeth.

This about summed up Trump's debate skills.

I think it started 2 decades ago, by a large segment of the population insisting on living in a right wing media bubble. FOX NEWS, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity & several others. Those that take information, regurgitate it, then spoon feed it back to their audiences in 3 or more daily hours of right wing hyperbole, half truths, tons of misinformation, and enough conspiracy theories to fill the capital building from floor to ceiling. All done to give their audience's--The news that they wanted to hear.

"It is not entirely true that Trump engineered a “hostile takeover” of the GOP. As Conor Friedersdorf wrote last year in the Atlantic: “the elements of the party that sent pro-Trump cues to primary voters—Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, Bill O'Reilly, Sarah Palin, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Jeff Sessions, Rudi Guiliani, Rick Scott, Jan Brewer, Joe Arpaio, Breitbart.com, The Drudge Report, The New York Post, —are simply more powerful, relative to National Review, Mitt Romney, John McCain, and other ‘Trump is unacceptable’ forces, than previously thought.”

The GOP That Failed

Some of them, of course, are now running like a bunch of rats leaving a sinking ship.

FOX NEWS who gave Trump an unprecedented amount of free coverage during the primary season, while ignoring all other GOP candidates, whom are also running for cover & actually reported on 3 criminal Federal Grand Jury indictments and one guilty plea in this manner.



The above spent many years convincing their audiences that all other media outlets were fake news. This article explains it in detail. How the stage was set for Donald Trump long ago.
Donald Trump broke the conservative media

Of course,Trump supporters have their own issues also. The Dunning--Kruger effect is very interesting in the below article.

A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains

So spend some time actually reading the articles I have linked too and watch the video--then cast your vote in the poll.

Patriotic Americans who realized that instead of America losing losing and losing more, we could win and win until we get tired of it.

"Blame" is not the correct word though. The patriotic Americans get the rightful CREDIT for the achievement that is putting Trump into the office. Let's not forget that he has already been a better president than Reagan.

Speaking or campaigning on platitudes means nothing unless you have a realistic plan to achieve those platitudes.

Anyone with half a brain would know that a Republican Congress is pro trade, would never tax American corporations for overseas manufacturing and would never approve of Tariffs on foreign goods, that have never created a single job but are great for job losses. You tariff foreign products the foreign country tariffs ours, creating a trade war and driving up the costs of all products on American consumers. Less money in consumer pockets, means they spend less, which stimulates job losses. The Smoot Hawley tariff of the Great Depression is well known fur making that depression last much longer than it should have


There is no such thing as a trade deficit, it is simply a paper deficit. We can't expect smaller populated counties to buy 2 washers and dryers per family and 5 American cars, which creates the paper deficit. As Mitch McConnell stated all trade is a surplus, and he is correct.

While we as Americans enjoy cheaper products it also costs jobs. This is the global economy and it's here to stay. Corporatons will move jobs overseas to remain competitive in the global economy.

Sanders and Trump both made campaign promises that never had a snowballs chance in hell of ever making it through a Republican or Democrat Congress.