So, which British gun control law stopped this shooter from shooting up a church?

[Mikeoxenormous]

Welfare, most large cities have a major problem with impoverished people who have been dependent on welfare for many years, passing that legacy onto their children(some like Ben Carson's mom broke out of that) where with their poverty and misery(liberal fairness) they resort to crime and drugs. Thanks Oblummer.

First, Ben Carson's Mom didn't break out of the welfare state. Quite the contrary, the welfare state allowed her the stability to raise a kid who grew up to be a Doctor and a religious crazy.

And you can pretty much get welfare just as easily in a impoverished rural area as a big city. In fact.

https://www.quora.com/Which-U-S-state-has-the-most-welfare-recipients

• Louisiana. • Number of food stamp recipients: 868,192. ...
• Tennessee. • Number of food stamp recipients: Just over 1.28 million. ...
• Oregon. • Number of food stamp recipients: 791,222. ...
• West Virginia. • Number of food stamp recipients: 369,249. ...
• New Mexico. • Number of food stamp recipients: 448,328. ...
• Mississippi. ...
• District of Columbia.

New Orleans a liberal city has the most food stamps in the state of Louisiana. Shall I continue...Joe is the master of misinformation....Good ole Communist Joe.
The Demographic Statistical Atlas of the United States - Statistical Atlas

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

You're a fucking idiot. Again, the catch and release going on in this country is the whole Demoncrap agenda to get criminals to kill US citizens. I would say you should be alarmed but now I just hope one day the released perp shows up at your door. Then you can say it is the gun....Unless he uses a knife...or a hammer...or just T-bones your ass because he was a drunk illegal...

Undocumented Immigrants commit LESS crime than citizens, because they don't want to get caught and sent back. But this had nothing to do with my point to Dick Tiny that easy access to guns is the root of our crime problem. It's not that we aren't locking people up. We lock up 2 million people, and we STILL have the highest crime rate in the civilized world.

MEANWHILE, countries like Germany and Japan limit who can own a gun, lock up less than 100K of their own citizens, and have negligible crime rates compared to us.

Again- this isn't complicated.

And why do cities have more concentrations of people?

Um, because that's where the jobs are? Again, you really do stumble with the whole math and logic problems, don't you buddy?

Um, Higher taxes in those cities, so more poverty can live there and vote for the Asshats who give them welfare. Why is NY having a mass exodus?

 

[JoeB131]

New Orleans a liberal city has the most food stamps in the state of Louisiana. Shall I continue...Joe is the master of misinformation....Good ole Communist Joe.

The point is, most of the food stamp usage is in red states... why do you think that is?

Um, Higher taxes in those cities, so more poverty can live there and vote for the Asshats who give them welfare. Why is NY having a mass exodus?

Okay... well, that would be a problem, as those New Yorkers will bring their politics and culture with them, then all the Red States will be Blue States...

You didn't think this through at all, did you?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

New Orleans a liberal city has the most food stamps in the state of Louisiana. Shall I continue...Joe is the master of misinformation....Good ole Communist Joe.

The point is, most of the food stamp usage is in red states... why do you think that is?

Um, Higher taxes in those cities, so more poverty can live there and vote for the Asshats who give them welfare. Why is NY having a mass exodus?

Okay... well, that would be a problem, as those New Yorkers will bring their politics and culture with them, then all the Red States will be Blue States...

You didn't think this through at all, did you?

Because the liberal cities in those red states give out the most welfare...Come on Joe, stop trying to misinform people.

Down here in Floor E Da, many of those ex New Yorkers are showing up a Trump rallies saying that they will never vote Demoncrap again. They dont like paying high taxes especially when that money goes to liberals who sit on their ass doing nothing but getting obese...

 

[2aguy]

Moron...we have gun crime because of the policies of the democrat party, implemented by the democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians...

Nope, we have gun crime because we have fucking guns. This isn't complicated.

Everyone else limits guns and no gun crime. Or any crime at all.

This isn't fucking complicated.

Wrong.....Britain is being flooded with illegal guns.....their criminals aren't murdering each other...yet.

95% of our gun crime and murder is committed by a tiny group of criminals, repeatedly let out of jail and prison by democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians.....these criminals let the other criminals know there is no price to pay for using guns...so they use them over and over again.

And, as more than 18.6 million Americans, up from 4.7 million in the 1990s our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%...

So your theory is completely wrong..........

the democrata party policies on criminals are our problem....not guns or normal gun owners...

 

[JoeB131]

Because the liberal cities in those red states give out the most welfare...Come on Joe, stop trying to misinform people.

Down here in Floor E Da, many of those ex New Yorkers are showing up a Trump rallies saying that they will never vote Demoncrap again. They dont like paying high taxes especially when that money goes to liberals who sit on their ass doing nothing but getting obese...

you keep telling yourself that... but now that ex-felons can vote, Trump is going to have a very hard time keeping Florida next time.

 

[2aguy]

You're a fucking idiot. Again, the catch and release going on in this country is the whole Demoncrap agenda to get criminals to kill US citizens. I would say you should be alarmed but now I just hope one day the released perp shows up at your door. Then you can say it is the gun....Unless he uses a knife...or a hammer...or just T-bones your ass because he was a drunk illegal...

Undocumented Immigrants commit LESS crime than citizens, because they don't want to get caught and sent back. But this had nothing to do with my point to Dick Tiny that easy access to guns is the root of our crime problem. It's not that we aren't locking people up. We lock up 2 million people, and we STILL have the highest crime rate in the civilized world.

MEANWHILE, countries like Germany and Japan limit who can own a gun, lock up less than 100K of their own citizens, and have negligible crime rates compared to us.

Again- this isn't complicated.

And why do cities have more concentrations of people?

Um, because that's where the jobs are? Again, you really do stumble with the whole math and logic problems, don't you buddy?

Moron....

Germany....

Germany has 5.5 million guns belonging to 1.4 million people | Daily Mail Online



Germany has some of the strictest firearms laws in Europe, although there are four illegal guns on the streets for every properly registered weapon.

According to data from the German Firearms Register, there are almost 5.5 million guns in private ownership belonging to 1.4 million people.

But research by the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung in January estimated there are up to 20 million illegal firearms in Germany.

They have access to guns and grenades, their criminals aren't using them, yet, to murder each other........they are in Sweden...

Crime gangs in Sweden: What's behind the rise in the use of explosives?

The frequent use of explosives is a relatively recent phenomenon, and criminologists told The Local that the blasts can be seen as part of an overall rise in violence and growing recklessness in these criminal networks.

Amir Rostami, a police superintendent turned sociologist with a focus on criminal gangs, told The Local that so-called 'street gangs' are showing an increased tendency towards violence, and that this violence was becoming more severe when it took place.

"If previously they maybe fired one shot or shot someone in the legs, today it's more about AK47s, using more bullets, hand grenades and explosions that we didn't see before. I'd say that's the biggest shift we see – they're more reckless, they don't seem to care about the consequences," Rostami said.

Fatal shootings linked to criminal gangs have increased from around four per year in the early 1990s to over 40 in 2018. And while the blasts that have taken place in Sweden have caused no fatalities so far this year, they could be seen as a sign that the gangs are unafraid of causing damage and potentially harming people.

Japan....

The Great Japanese Gang Wars



The season for pineapples (yakuza slang for hand grenades) may finally be over. Jake Adelstein and Nathalie-Kyoko Stucky on the bloody, seven-year battle between the Dojin-kai and the Seido-kai.



In Southern Japan, the brutal pineapple season may finally be over; pineapple is yakuza slang for “hand grenade”—one of the many weapons utilized in a seven-year gang war between the Dojin-kai (1,000 members) and the splinter group the Kyushu Seido-kei (500 members).

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The Gangs That Couldn’t Shoot Straight
The Dojin-kai and the Seido-kai are Kyushu-based yakuza gangs, once part of the same faction founded in 1971 in Kurume, Fukuoka Prefecture, by Isoji Koga. When the second generation Dojin-kai boss Seijiro Matsuo retired in May 2006, there was a fight over succession, and the group split into two factions, sparking a bloody gang war—where escalation seemed a matter of course. It started with shootings and bombs being thrown, and before it ended, the two gangs were lobbing grenades and Molotov cocktails, shooting machine guns, and sometimes attacking their own men.
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In May, a 9-year-old child found a hand grenade in a rice field in Iizuka, Fukuoka Prefecture, and took it home, to the astonishment of his father, who handed it over to the local police. According to the police, there were no yakuza headquarters where the grenade was found.

The numbers of grenades used and seized in the war became so problematic that by April 2012, the Fukuoka Prefecture Police became the first in Japan to offer cash rewards to anyone who reported finding a hand grenade.

How Japan stopped gun crime by their criminals....by locking them up for long prison sentences...something you and the democrats don't want to do....

https://www.asiatimes.com/2017/12/article/japans-gun-control-laws-strict-yakuza-turn-toy-pistols/



Ryo Fujiwara, long-time writer on yakuza affairs and author of the book, The Three Yamaguchi-Gumi, says that the punishment for using a gun in a gang war or in a crime is now so heavy that most yakuza avoid their use at all – unless it is for an assassination.

“In a hit, whoever fires the gun, or is made to take responsibility for firing the gun, has to pretty much be willing to go to jail for the rest of their life. That’s a big decision. The repercussions are big, too. No one wants to claim responsibility for such acts – the gang office might actually get shut-down.”

The gang typically also has to support the family of the hit-man while he is in prison, which is also a financial burden for the organization.

Japan’s Firearms and Swords Control Laws make it a crime to illegally possess a gun, with a punishment of jail time of up to 10 years.

Illegal possession more than one gun, the penalty goes up to 15 years in prison. If you own a gun and matching ammunition, that’s another charge and a heavier penalty. The most severe penalty is for the act of discharging a gun in a train, on a bus, or most public spaces, which can result in a life sentence.

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A low-ranking member of the Kobe-Yamaguchi-gumi put it this way: “All of the smart guys got rid of their guns a long-time ago. The penalties are way too high. You get life in prison if you just fire a gun. That’s not fun.”

--A police officer in Osaka’s Organized Crime Control Division, speaking on background noted, “In the de facto world of law enforcement, when a yakuza fires a gun, we’re almost always going to charge them with attempted murder—which is a very heavy crime and serious time in ‘the pig-house’ (jail). Guns kill people, so if you use one, intent to kill is right there. Toy guns? Not so much.”

He added, “Unless you’re an old gangster and wanting to stay in jail until you die because you got nowhere else to go, you don’t use a gun. The crime isn’t worth the time in jail.”

A low-ranking member of the Kobe-Yamaguchi-gumi put it this way: “All of the smart guys got rid of their guns a long-time ago. The penalties are way too high. You get life in prison if you just fire a gun. That’s not fun.”

 

[2aguy]

Because the liberal cities in those red states give out the most welfare...Come on Joe, stop trying to misinform people.

Down here in Floor E Da, many of those ex New Yorkers are showing up a Trump rallies saying that they will never vote Demoncrap again. They dont like paying high taxes especially when that money goes to liberals who sit on their ass doing nothing but getting obese...

you keep telling yourself that... but now that ex-felons can vote, Trump is going to have a very hard time keeping Florida next time.

Yes....you guys support criminals.......and you support letting the violent ones roam free...so you can use the bodies they create to push gun control.

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong.....Britain is being flooded with illegal guns.....their criminals aren't murdering each other...yet.

Uh, yeah, funny, you've been predicting this for years.

And oddly, their murder rate remains low.