Daryl Hunt
Your Worst Nightmare
- Banned
- #161
Uh huh.Damn those American SUVs!! They're so evil, they cause global warming in the past!"In the last 10 years, it has gotten warmer here..."10 years is weather, not climate.The author’s prognostications take place within 60 years. You have it backward. There will be more government, less freedom and less quality of of life in the future if we do nothing about anthropogenic climate change NOW.Excerpts from the link
... For two years, I have been studying how climate change will influence global migration. My sense was that of all the devastating consequences of a warming planet — changing landscapes, pandemics, mass extinctions — the potential movement of hundreds of millions of climate refugees across the planet stands to be among the most important. I traveled across four countries to witness how rising temperatures were driving climate refugees away from some of the poorest and hottest parts of the world. I had also helped create an enormous computer simulation to analyze how global demographics might shift, and now I was working on a data-mapping project about migration here in the United States.
....... What I found was a nation on the cusp of a great transformation. Across the United States, some 162 million people — nearly one in two — will most likely experience a decline in the quality of their environment, namely more heat and less water. For 93 million of them, the changes could be particularly severe, and by 2070, our analysis suggests, if carbon emissions rise at extreme levels, at least four million Americans could find themselves living at the fringe, in places decidedly outside the ideal niche for human life. The cost of resisting the new climate reality is mounting. Florida officials have already acknowledged that defending some roadways against the sea will be unaffordable. And the nation’s federal flood-insurance program is for the first time requiring that some of its payouts be used to retreat from climate threats across the country. It will soon prove too expensive to maintain the status quo.
.... Then what? One influential 2018 study, published in The Journal of the Association of Environmental and Resource Economists, suggests that one in 12 Americans in the Southern half of the country will move toward California, the Mountain West or the Northwest over the next 45 years because of climate influences alone.....
There are signs that the message is breaking through. Half of Americans now rank climate as a top political priority, up from roughly one-third in 2016, and three out of four now describe climate change as either “a crisis” or “a major problem.”
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The author concludes these states will be the beneficiaries of a hotter climate:
The millions of people moving north will mostly head to the cities of the Northeast and Northwest, which will see their populations grow by roughly 10 percent, according to one model. Once-chilly places like Minnesota and Michigan and Vermont will become more temperate, verdant and inviting. Vast regions will prosper; just as Hsiang’s research forecast that Southern counties could see a tenth of their economy dry up, he projects that others as far as North Dakota and Minnesota will enjoy a corresponding expansion. Cities like Detroit, Rochester, Buffalo and Milwaukee will see a renaissance, with their excess capacity in infrastructure, water supplies and highways once again put to good use. One day, it’s possible that a high-speed rail line could race across the Dakotas, through Idaho’s up-and-coming wine country and the country’s new breadbasket along the Canadian border, to the megalopolis of Seattle, which by then has nearly merged with Vancouver to its north.
How Climate Migration Will Reshape America (Published 2020)
Millions will be displaced in the coming decades by fires, hurricanes, extreme heat and rising seas. Where will they go?www.nytimes.com
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It's coming. You know it is.
So the only solution is more government, less freedom, and less quality of life.
This isn't the movies, climate doesn't change overnight, or even over decade, it takes centuries, and people can adjust.
What we shouldn't do is let watermelons like you define the "only way" to save ourselves.
And the only cure is more government, less freedom, and lower quality of life.
And of course Marxism, lots and lots of Marxism.
Climate change should never be political.
The whole concept is political.
For AGW alarmists the only cure is Marxism.
Wow, again, name one real Marxist country that has ever exited on the earth. But remember I get to critique your answer.
Or the "Green Party" (whom I've worked with on ballot access with) -- these folks BELIEVE that social justice is NOT ATTAINABLE while we are a Representative Republic" who lives under capitalism.. Need to revert to cute small paint companies in a village somewhere.. Maybe 1000s of them scattered around the county to AVOID having Capitalist "Big Paint"... e.g.
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There can be no Marx or Socialist Government. Never was, ain't now and never will be. Like there can never be a Capitalist Government or even a Democratic Government. Almost all large countries are various forms of Federal Republics with a mix of Socialist and Capitalist Economics to make it work. The bigger the country is, the more Social Programs are required. But you will still need Capitalism to pay for it all. Social Programs s don't make a dime.
What I have to laugh at is when someone wants to get rid of all Socialism in the United States. They have no idea what they are going to lose. And there are those that say that all businesses should be socialized, socialism never made a dime ever. The trick is to find the happy medium of what is needed and what can be afforded. And remove Politics from the equation, it's an economic equation.
The significance of Marxism is a PHILOSOPHY -- not a governmental model.. Marxism USES popular issues to establish what we call "populist" governments that FAIL -- because they follow the Marxian Handbook... When you see a "populist movement" promoting junk enviro fixes or race division or economic redistribution, or having "social justice" as it's rallying cry -- it's headed for nothing good..
Global Warming is largely pushed by media/politicians that CRAVE more power and control to institute "Marxist principles" mixed with a lot of other bad ideas...
In the last 10 years, it has gotten warmer here and the heat increase has affected the shortage of rainfall, snowfall and the higher winds. The results from that has been lower crop output except the farmers just learned to do a better job and larger forest fires. It's real. But we have adapted well. But it's getting harder and harder to adapt.
I used from 1949 to today. You used 2009 to today.
Unless you'd like to make the case for it being 1959...?
It was MUCH warmer in the 1930's. Worldwide.
You still don't get it. We've come a long way. Things HAVE gotten better but we need to do even better. I still remember the black snow from the Coal Days.
Every single "solution" proposed for "anthropogenic climate change" (that hasn't been proven actually exists -- point in case, you claiming weather is climate) turns out to be massive wealth redistribution on a planetary scale.
I'm not sure how the First World paying the Second and Third World to keep polluting will solve anything except punishing the First World for their success.
I'd ask you to explain it, but you would not be able to do so rationally.
You never asked me to explain that. You just came up with that part out your ass. Actually, I support the US to become self sufficient and to stop depending on those 3rd world countries so much. Both of us "Pay" those countries to keep trashing the world. They need us a lot more than we need them.