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OS308 9878412The UN inspectors left because Iraq had failed to obey the UN sanctions and the US and Britain made it clear that they were going to take military action against Saddam.
That is a flat out lie. The inspectors left because they did not (a) want to be killed or maimed by US bombs and missles. (b) be caught in the crossfire between the invading forces and the defending forces. (c) Bush claimed when he advised the UN inspectors and everyone else to leave that he had intelligence that left no doubt that Iraq was hiding the most lethal weapons ever devised from those very same inspectors. So if Bush and his 'doubtless' intelligence were to be believed they would not like to be gassed or exposed to biological agents. (d) they left because there would be no work for them to do since their work was diplomatic and designed to prevent war and they would have nothing to do but wait for the war to end. So they went home where they could be safe and be with their loved ones and friends and family like most humans would do in that situation.
VG318 9878521Uranium in Iraq[/url]
Reality bits *Vigilante in the ass once again. I didn't know that there were any wingnuts continuing to believe that discredited story since it was debunked at least four or five years ago pretty well.
....everyone with a IQ above room temperature KNOWS there was WMD in Iraq....even when the idiots try to debunk it!
BTW, there was 550 tons of yellowcake in Iraq all throughout the war, unguarded!
But this particular stock of uranium was not recently discovered — and it was no secret. It had been stored in sealed containers, since before the first Gulf War, according to the AP. <> The inspectors monitored Iraq’s disarmament, and later guarded this uranium. More recently, U.S. and Iraqi forces have been guarding it, since Iraqis looted the site after Hussein’s fall from power.
BTW, there was 550 tons of yellowcake in Iraq all throughout the war, unguarded!
Did you not know that the Yellowcake stored in Tuwaitha was declared by Iraq and known to the IAEA prior to the US invasion. It was also known to Dick Cheney thanks to disclosed documents from the Scooter Libby trial that 550 tons of yellowcake was mentioned in the intelligence briefing to Cheney in mid 2002 I believe and it noted that IAEA inspectors had gone in once a year from 1998 on to check on it. You see it was sealed in Concrete Bunkers at Tuwaitha Iraq and under IAEA lock and seal. Saddam did not disturb the stuff at all and no one got to it...... until Bush invaded Iraq in March 2003 and looters broke the seals to steal things to seel for scrap mostly.
And your claim that it was unguarded throughout the war is right winger insanity gone wild. Here:
But this particular stock of uranium was not recently discovered — and it was no secret. It had been stored in sealed containers, since before the first Gulf War, according to the AP. <> The inspectors monitored Iraq’s disarmament, and later guarded this uranium. More recently, U.S. and Iraqi forces have been guarding it, since Iraqis looted the site after Hussein’s fall from power.
Uranium in Iraq
Reality bites *Vigilante in the ass once again. I didn't know that there were any wingnuts continuing to believe that discredited story since it was debunked at least four or five years ago pretty well.
, but even the story I posted claims the stuff was there and since even your dumbass has been fighting the Bush KICKED OUT all the inspectors, even you, to have any credibility, at all, must admit it was unguarded, But I enjoy your OCD over this bullshit, so please continue!
Obama can get away with the same things that they castigated Bush for. Classic liberal BS
How is what I described "a flat out lie"? Did Iraq NOT repeatedly fail to obey the UN sanctions? Did Bush NOT make it clear that the US was about to take military action against Iraq?
BTW, there was 550 tons of yellowcake in Iraq all throughout the war, unguarded!
Once the war started that 550 tons of WMD were unguarded and locals were breaking into the installation, dumping the yellowcake and using the barrels for food storage. So, there WAS WMD in Iraq, it WAS UNGUARDED, and was CONSIDERED so dangerous that the U.S. had a secret plan to ship it all to Canada!
While yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a so-called "dirty bomb" — a conventional explosive that disperses radioactive material — it could stir widespread panic if incorporated in a blast. Yellowcake also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment.
The Iraqi government sold the yellowcake to a Canadian uranium producer, Cameco Corp., in a transaction the official described as worth "tens of millions of dollars." A Cameco spokesman, Lyle Krahn, declined to discuss the price, but said the yellowcake will be processed at facilities in Ontario for use in energy-producing reactors.
"We are pleased ... that we have taken (the yellowcake) from a volatile region into a stable area to produce clean electricity," he said.
The deal culminated more than a year of intense diplomatic and military initiatives — kept hushed in fear of ambushes or attacks once the convoys were under way: first carrying 3,500 barrels by road to Baghdad, then on 37 military flights to the Indian Ocean atoll of Diego Garcia and finally aboard a U.S.-flagged ship for a 8,500-mile trip to Montreal.
And, in a symbolic way, the mission linked the current attempts to stabilize Iraq with some of the high-profile claims about Saddam's weapons capabilities in the buildup to the 2003 invasion.
Accusations that Saddam had tried to purchase more yellowcake from the African nation of Niger — and an article by a former U.S. ambassador refuting the claims — led to a wide-ranging probe into Washington leaks that reached high into the Bush administration.
Tuwaitha and an adjacent research facility were well known for decades as the centerpiece of Saddam's nuclear efforts.
Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981. Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said.
U.S. and Iraqi forces have guarded the 23,000-acre site — surrounded by huge sand berms — following a wave of looting after Saddam's fall that included villagers toting away yellowcake storage barrels for use as drinking water cisterns.
Yellowcake is obtained by using various solutions to leach out uranium from raw ore and can have a corn meal-like color and consistency. It poses no severe risk if stored and sealed properly. But exposure carries well-documented health concerns associated with heavy metals such as damage to internal organs, experts say.
"The big problem comes with any inhalation of any of the yellowcake dust," said Doug Brugge, a professor of public health issues at the Tufts University School of Medicine.
OS321 9878585How is what I described "a flat out lie"? Did Iraq NOT repeatedly fail to obey the UN sanctions? Did Bush NOT make it clear that the US was about to take military action against Iraq?
The first part of your statement is the flat out lie. You began your statement with, "The UN inspectors left because Iraq had failed to obey the UN sanctions...". It is a lie because if it were not for the 'threat' of military action by the US and UK the inspectors would have remained and wanted to remain in Iraq and finish their work. They did not decide to leave because as you say that Iraq had failed to obey the UN sanctions. The inspectors were not there to investigate the OFF issues and other 'sanctions' issues that were not related to WMD. They were there to verify the disarming of Iraq and to set up long-term monitoring once that verification had been completed. They were scheduled to complete their work by the end of May because Blix said in March it would take a few more months.. Staying to finish their work is not leaving because they thought Iraq was not complying with the sanctions or whatever it is you keep wanting to bring up. They were there on the matter of WMDs. They did not leave because of your sanctions fantasies.
Did you write the words, "all Throughout the war, unguarded"?
VG318 9878521BTW, there was 550 tons of yellowcake in Iraq all throughout the war, unguarded!
Since you did, why are you saying this afterward:
VG324 9878628Once the war started that 550 tons of WMD were unguarded and locals were breaking into the installation, dumping the yellowcake and using the barrels for food storage. So, there WAS WMD in Iraq, it WAS UNGUARDED, and was CONSIDERED so dangerous that the U.S. had a secret plan to ship it all to Canada!
With everyone that mattered knowing it was there, why was the yellowcake that was under lock and seal by the IAEA in Tuwaitha , left unprotected to start a war over WMD that was supposedly being hidden from UN inspectors there? That's a case for major incompetence by the Bush Administration isn't it?
But your claim that "So, there WAS WMD in Iraq" is so much right wing crap it is ridiculous mainly because the yellowcake is not a WMD unless it is being used in the process to produce a nuclear bomb. So there was no wmd in Iraq. Saying that there was is the argument of a someone who knows nothing about what that material was. Here's some info if you wish to get informed:
While yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a so-called "dirty bomb" — a conventional explosive that disperses radioactive material — it could stir widespread panic if incorporated in a blast. Yellowcake also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment.
The Iraqi government sold the yellowcake to a Canadian uranium producer, Cameco Corp., in a transaction the official described as worth "tens of millions of dollars." A Cameco spokesman, Lyle Krahn, declined to discuss the price, but said the yellowcake will be processed at facilities in Ontario for use in energy-producing reactors.
"We are pleased ... that we have taken (the yellowcake) from a volatile region into a stable area to produce clean electricity," he said.
The deal culminated more than a year of intense diplomatic and military initiatives — kept hushed in fear of ambushes or attacks once the convoys were under way: first carrying 3,500 barrels by road to Baghdad, then on 37 military flights to the Indian Ocean atoll of Diego Garcia and finally aboard a U.S.-flagged ship for a 8,500-mile trip to Montreal.
And, in a symbolic way, the mission linked the current attempts to stabilize Iraq with some of the high-profile claims about Saddam's weapons capabilities in the buildup to the 2003 invasion.
Accusations that Saddam had tried to purchase more yellowcake from the African nation of Niger — and an article by a former U.S. ambassador refuting the claims — led to a wide-ranging probe into Washington leaks that reached high into the Bush administration.
Tuwaitha and an adjacent research facility were well known for decades as the centerpiece of Saddam's nuclear efforts.
Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981. Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said.
U.S. and Iraqi forces have guarded the 23,000-acre site — surrounded by huge sand berms — following a wave of looting after Saddam's fall that included villagers toting away yellowcake storage barrels for use as drinking water cisterns.
Yellowcake is obtained by using various solutions to leach out uranium from raw ore and can have a corn meal-like color and consistency. It poses no severe risk if stored and sealed properly. But exposure carries well-documented health concerns associated with heavy metals such as damage to internal organs, experts say.
"The big problem comes with any inhalation of any of the yellowcake dust," said Doug Brugge, a professor of public health issues at the Tufts University School of Medicine.
U.S. removes yellowcake from Iraq - World news - Mideast N. Africa - Conflict in Iraq NBC News
Did you write the words, "all Throughout the war, unguarded"?
VG318 9878521BTW, there was 550 tons of yellowcake in Iraq all throughout the war, unguarded!
Since you did, why are you saying this afterward:
VG324 9878628Once the war started that 550 tons of WMD were unguarded and locals were breaking into the installation, dumping the yellowcake and using the barrels for food storage. So, there WAS WMD in Iraq, it WAS UNGUARDED, and was CONSIDERED so dangerous that the U.S. had a secret plan to ship it all to Canada!
With everyone that mattered knowing it was there, why was the yellowcake that was under lock and seal by the IAEA in Tuwaitha , left unprotected to start a war over WMD that was supposedly being hidden from UN inspectors there? That's a case for major incompetence by the Bush Administration isn't it?
But your claim that "So, there WAS WMD in Iraq" is so much right wing crap it is ridiculous mainly because the yellowcake is not a WMD unless it is being used in the process to produce a nuclear bomb. So there was no wmd in Iraq. Saying that there was is the argument of a someone who knows nothing about what that material was. Here's some info if you wish to get informed:
While yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a so-called "dirty bomb" — a conventional explosive that disperses radioactive material — it could stir widespread panic if incorporated in a blast. Yellowcake also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment.
The Iraqi government sold the yellowcake to a Canadian uranium producer, Cameco Corp., in a transaction the official described as worth "tens of millions of dollars." A Cameco spokesman, Lyle Krahn, declined to discuss the price, but said the yellowcake will be processed at facilities in Ontario for use in energy-producing reactors.
"We are pleased ... that we have taken (the yellowcake) from a volatile region into a stable area to produce clean electricity," he said.
The deal culminated more than a year of intense diplomatic and military initiatives — kept hushed in fear of ambushes or attacks once the convoys were under way: first carrying 3,500 barrels by road to Baghdad, then on 37 military flights to the Indian Ocean atoll of Diego Garcia and finally aboard a U.S.-flagged ship for a 8,500-mile trip to Montreal.
And, in a symbolic way, the mission linked the current attempts to stabilize Iraq with some of the high-profile claims about Saddam's weapons capabilities in the buildup to the 2003 invasion.
Accusations that Saddam had tried to purchase more yellowcake from the African nation of Niger — and an article by a former U.S. ambassador refuting the claims — led to a wide-ranging probe into Washington leaks that reached high into the Bush administration.
Tuwaitha and an adjacent research facility were well known for decades as the centerpiece of Saddam's nuclear efforts.
Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981. Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said.
U.S. and Iraqi forces have guarded the 23,000-acre site — surrounded by huge sand berms — following a wave of looting after Saddam's fall that included villagers toting away yellowcake storage barrels for use as drinking water cisterns.
Yellowcake is obtained by using various solutions to leach out uranium from raw ore and can have a corn meal-like color and consistency. It poses no severe risk if stored and sealed properly. But exposure carries well-documented health concerns associated with heavy metals such as damage to internal organs, experts say.
"The big problem comes with any inhalation of any of the yellowcake dust," said Doug Brugge, a professor of public health issues at the Tufts University School of Medicine.
U.S. removes yellowcake from Iraq - World news - Mideast N. Africa - Conflict in Iraq NBC News
Protesting War does not make you a 'Subversive.' Average American Citizens do not benefit at all from endless War. In fact, they only suffer. They pay for the Ruling-Class Global Elite Wars with their money and lives. Only the Ruling-Class Global Elites benefit from endless War.
Protesting War does not make you a 'Subversive.' Average American Citizens do not benefit at all from endless War. In fact, they only suffer. They pay for the Ruling-Class Global Elite Wars with their money and lives. Only the Ruling-Class Global Elites benefit from endless War.
OK, then how about I call them a fucking group of HYPOCRITES, for NOT treating WAR equally under a Republican?
So why did you leave out the bolded part of my quote?
How is what I described "a flat out lie"?
The first part of your statement is the flat out lie. You began your statement with, "The UN inspectors left because Iraq had failed to obey the UN sanctions...".
It is a lie because if it were not for the 'threat' of military action by the US and UK the inspectors would have remained and wanted to remain in Iraq and finish their work. They did not decide to leave because as you say that Iraq had failed to obey the UN sanctions. The inspectors were not there to investigate the OFF issues and other 'sanctions' issues that were not related to WMD. They were there to verify the disarming of Iraq and to set up long-term monitoring once that verification had been completed. They were scheduled to complete their work by the end of May because Blix said in March it would take a few more months.. Staying to finish their work is not leaving because they thought Iraq was not complying with the sanctions or whatever it is you keep wanting to bring up. They were there on the matter of WMDs. They did not leave because of your sanctions fantasies.
The first part of your statement after 1441 was passed is still a lie. The inspectors did not make that determination and decide to leave. Bush erroneously made a determination that Iraq was concealing WMD from those inspectors and decided to start a war. It as the threat to their lives that forced the inspectors to leave Iraq with their work unfinished.The truth is...Iraq HAD failed to obey the UN sanctions and the US and Britain HAD made it clear that they were about to take military action against Saddam Hussein to force him from power. That's why the UN inspectors left.
As for what the inspectors were there to investigate? You for some reason think their only mission was to look for WMD's. Trying to locate missing WMD's was only PART of the inspection mission. They were also there to look for weapons or high tech machines to make weapons that the Iraqis were prohibited from having such as long range rockets.
Saddam Hussein had been trading oil to former Soviet bloc nations for the technology to improve the accuracy of his Scud missiles and give his rockets additional range.
Protesting War does not make you a 'Subversive.' Average American Citizens do not benefit at all from endless War. In fact, they only suffer. They pay for the Ruling-Class Global Elite Wars with their money and lives. Only the Ruling-Class Global Elites benefit from endless War.
OK, then how about I call them a fucking group of HYPOCRITES, for NOT treating WAR equally under a Republican?
Oh i call the Left/Progressives on it all the time. They're frauds. The 'Anti-War Left' is a myth.
