So what ever hapened to an ice free north pole.

[Charles_Main]

For months we were told by Kirk that the North Pole would be free of Ice this summer.

He constantly ignored what people said and replied to them with the same question. "when was the last time the North pole was free of ice"


Well Kirk I ask you the same question. When was it? Because it was not this summer, and now of course winter is in full swing at the north pole and the ice packs are growing again.

 

[slackjawed]

Stop bothering the enviorneMENTALists with the truth, it has become very inconvenient.

 

[Tech_Esq]

And this just in:

More bad news for the Enviro-NAZIs,

000
NOAK49 PAFG 060945
PNSAFG
AKZ222-062145-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FAIRBANKS AK
145 AM AKDT MON OCT 6 2008

...UNSEASONABLY COLD WEATHER CONTINUES AT FAIRBANKS...

THE HIGH TEMPERATURE YESTERDAY AT THE FAIRBANKS INTERNATIONAL
AIRPORT WAS 31 DEGREES. THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THIS FALL THAT THE
HIGH TEMPERATURE FAILED TO REACH THE FREEZING MARK. ON AVERAGE THE
DATE OF THE FIRST DAY WITH A HIGH TEMPERATURE BELOW FREEZING IS
OCTOBER 11TH. SO FAR THIS MONTH THE WARMEST TEMPERATURE OF 38
DEGREES WAS OBSERVED ON THE 2ND.

THE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE SO FAR THIS MONTH OF 27.1 DEGREES IS 8.2
DEGREES BELOW THE 30-YEAR AVERAGE. IT HAS BEEN THE COLDEST FIRST 5
DAYS OF THE MONTH OF OCTOBER SINCE 1992.

$$

CB

 

[matty]

For months we were told by Kirk that the North Pole would be free of Ice this summer.

He constantly ignored what people said and replied to them with the same question. "when was the last time the North pole was free of ice"


Well Kirk I ask you the same question. When was it? Because it was not this summer, and now of course winter is in full swing at the north pole and the ice packs are growing again.

Figures you're the sole voice~but we're on the verge of sliding thru Climate Change legislation, or more importantly Precedence as we speak...

 

[editec]

I blame the FED for this lack of liquidity at the North Pole, personally.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I blame the FED for this lack of liquidity at the North Pole, personally.

We need a North Pole Bail out plan.

 

[jla1178]

I blame the FED for this lack of liquidity at the North Pole, personally.

It's alien Jews!!!!!!!!

 

[Gurdari]

Hmm... it sure is odd that the environment hasn't behaved exactly as predicted.

 

[Tech_Esq]

Hmm... it sure is odd that the environment hasn't behaved exactly as predicted.

There is a VERY high probability that the Enviro-nazis never had the data to backup what they were predicting. The data set of "good" numbers was simply too small to extrapolate from.

 

[Chris]

Arctic ocean covered by thin ice
Wednesday, 8 October 2008 Michael Reilly
Discovery News

Recent measurements of sea ice in the Arctic Ocean have found that it has melted to its lowest volume in recorded history.

Although the area of Arctic sea ice is greater than at the corresponding period in 2007 - the lowest coverage ever - experts are concerned that it may be much thinner.

Dr Walt Meier of US National Snow and Ice Data Center and colleagues say the overall ice volume in the Arctic Ocean is at least as low as 2007, and may even have dwindled more by as far as 10%.

Meier says this makes the ice more prone to melting than ever before.

Steady decline
The area of ocean that sea ice covers can vary dramatically from year to year, so scientists look at ice volume as a long-term indicator of the "health" of the ice.

Since satellite measurements began 30 years ago, it has been in steady decline.

"The long term trends in ice volume show a clear trend toward warming temperatures," says Meier. "The health of the ice is at the same state or worse than it was last year."

The latest drop in volume is likely due to a strong wind pattern last year that blew large amounts of thick, multi-year ice south past the east coast of Greenland, and out of the Arctic Ocean. During the following winter, thin new ice formed in its place.

But given the ever-warming waters and air temperatures, Dr Jay Zwally of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center says the new ice has little chance of making a long term recovery.

"The reason volume is so important is new ice can't get thick enough in the winter to survive next summer's melting," he says. "It takes seven to eight years for sea ice to reach its equilibrium thickness of around four to five meters."

Last December, Zwally predicted that the Arctic Ocean could be seasonally ice free by the end of the summer of 2013, five years from now.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/10/08/2385195.htm?site=science&topic=latest

 

[Gurdari]

There is a VERY high probability that the Enviro-nazis never had the data to backup what they were predicting. The data set of "good" numbers was simply too small to extrapolate from.

What's an enviro-nazi? Do you actually believe there are peacenik, lefty treehuggers out there who think they can somehow 'hurt' people like you by, uh... working towards a healthier environment?

Nobody says you have to give a shit about your own life, your planet, or your future - but I am curious at the logic underpinning claims about those evil environmentalist (sorry, "environMENTALists").

 

[Andrew2382]

Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back
19 Feb 08 - "Are the world's ice caps melting because of climate change, or are the reports just a lot of scare mongering by the advocates of the global warming theory?

"Scare mongering appears to be the case, according to reports from the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) that reveal that almost all the allegedly "lost" ice has come back. A NOAA report shows that ice levels which had shrunk from 5 million square miles in January 2007 to just 1.5 million square miles in October, are almost back to their original levels.

"Moreover, a Feb. 18 report in the London Daily Express showed that there is nearly a third more ice in Antarctica than usual, challenging the global warming crusaders and buttressing arguments of skeptics who deny that the world is undergoing global warming.

"As winter roars in across the Northern Hemisphere, Mother Nature seems to have joined the ranks of the skeptics.

"The northern Hemisphere has endured its coldest winter in decades, with snow cover across the area at its greatest since 1966.

"Around the world, vast areas have been buried under some of the heaviest snowfalls in decades.

"More than 100 villages were snowed-in on the island of Crete and temperatures in Athens dropped to -6 C before dawn, while the coldest temperatures were recorded in Kozani, Grevena, Kastoria and Florina, where they plunged to -12 C.

"If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death."

See all of this great commentary by Phillip Brennan
Newsmax.com - Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back

Growing Glaciers

OMG GLACIERS ARE GETTING BIGGER

ICE AGE INCOMING

Where the fuck is global warming when you need it?

 

[Tech_Esq]

What's an enviro-nazi? Do you actually believe there are peacenik, lefty treehuggers out there who think they can somehow 'hurt' people like you by, uh... working towards a healthier environment?

Nobody says you have to give a shit about your own life, your planet, or your future - but I am curious at the logic underpinning claims about those evil environmentalist (sorry, "environMENTALists").

Unless you are a mindless pawn of the left, you understand that the "Green" excuse is nothing but a ruse to transfer wealth on a massive and global scale from wealthy countries to poor countries.

The proof is in the pudding. Underdeveloped countries like China!!! are excused from Kyoto. Do we talk about putting resources to something we all can agree on like putting out the thousands of coal fires that are burning out of control all over the world spewing unfiltered coal emissions into the atmosphere by the mega-ton? Nope instead we want to talk about cap and trade systems that destroy whole economies at a time.

Please you can believe the bullshit, but don't expect me to. People that force their ideology on others get the appellation Nazi. If you don't like it...tough.

 

[AllieBaba]

What's an enviro-nazi? Do you actually believe there are peacenik, lefty treehuggers out there who think they can somehow 'hurt' people like you by, uh... working towards a healthier environment?

Nobody says you have to give a shit about your own life, your planet, or your future - but I am curious at the logic underpinning claims about those evil environmentalist (sorry, "environMENTALists").

#1 domestic terrorist threat.

I don't need to say more.

 

[Chris]

#1 domestic terrorist threat.

I don't need to say more.

#1 domestic terrorist threat is the NRA.

One million Americans killed by guns since 1960.

 

[Chris]

NOAA temperature data....

 

[AllieBaba]

#1 domestic terrorist threat is the NRA.

One million Americans killed by guns since 1960.

Not according to the FBI, moron.

"The FBI estimates that the ALF/ELF have committed more than 600 criminal acts in the United States since 1996, resulting in damages in excess of 43 million dollars."


"Currently, more than 26 FBI field offices have pending investigations associated with ALF/ELF activities. Despite all of our efforts (increased resources allocated, JTTFs, successful arrests and prosecutions), law enforcement has a long way to go to adequately address the problem of eco-terrorism. Groups such as the ALF and the ELF present unique challenges. There is little if any hierarchal structure to such entities. Eco-terrorists are unlike traditional criminal enterprises which are often structured and organized."

Federal Bureau of Investigation - Congressional Testimony

 

[Chris]

Not according to the FBI, moron.

"The FBI estimates that the ALF/ELF have committed more than 600 criminal acts in the United States since 1996, resulting in damages in excess of 43 million dollars."


"Currently, more than 26 FBI field offices have pending investigations associated with ALF/ELF activities. Despite all of our efforts (increased resources allocated, JTTFs, successful arrests and prosecutions), law enforcement has a long way to go to adequately address the problem of eco-terrorism. Groups such as the ALF and the ELF present unique challenges. There is little if any hierarchal structure to such entities. Eco-terrorists are unlike traditional criminal enterprises which are often structured and organized."

Federal Bureau of Investigation - Congressional Testimony

Hippies destroying a few SUVs and ski lodges vs one million Ameircans killed by guns.

Impressive.

 

[Gunny]

Hippies destroying a few SUVs and ski lodges vs one million Ameircans killed by guns.

Impressive.

About as impressive as this, as usual response from the Chriskirk.

 

[AllieBaba]

Hippies destroying a few SUVs and ski lodges vs one million Ameircans killed by guns.

Impressive.

You've actually never proven that, nimrod.