So the taliban is making the rules now

[EMH]

Your complaint is that Joe is following a plan and agreement setup by Trump...

Could you please tell us how you would handle this differently?

The first thing is to get truth. The afghan mission never had any. You and yours always knew that.

Step one - get those really behind 911

Step two - off each and every one

 

[struth]

So the Afghan governments yellow belly exit, and the Afghani military collapse had nothing to do with it???

nope that was all xiden ignoring the conditions in the agreement, ignoring the intel he was given, and quickly withdrawing troops

xiden owns this. it’s all the dembot admin

and he has continued to lie about it

 

[SassyIrishLass]

nope that was all xiden ignoring the conditions in the agreement, ignoring the intel he was given, and quickly withdrawing troops

xiden owns this. it’s all the dembot admin

and he has continued to lie about it

You don't honestly believe Biden has any clue what's going on other than wondering who's turd is in his Depends do you?

I've peeled carrots more aware

 

[LordBrownTrout]

They're whipping the installed invalid like he's minced meat.

 

[Care4all]

nope that was all xiden ignoring the conditions in the agreement, ignoring the intel he was given, and quickly withdrawing troops

xiden owns this. it’s all the dembot admin

and he has continued to lie about it

No one lives in a vacuum or bubble. To pretend that we do, is disingenuous. Every action has a reaction.

Biden does own this, as said before, regardless of the conditions he inherited.

 

[schmidlap]

So the taliban is making the rules now​

A statement that could have been made at virtually any time during the past twenty years of squandered treasure, sacrificed lives, and blatant lies - the reasons that Trump had constantly railed that immediate withdrawal was imperative (except for the four years that he actually had the power to do it.)

His conviction that he failed to act upon is hardly unique:

I served in Afghanistan as a US Marine, twice. Here’s the truth in two sentences​

What we are seeing in Afghanistan right now shouldn’t shock you. It only seems that way because our institutions are steeped in systematic dishonesty. It doesn’t require a dissertation to explain what you’re seeing. Just two sentences.​

​

One: For 20 years, politicians, elites and D.C. military leaders lied to us about Afghanistan.​

​

Two: What happened last week was inevitable, and anyone saying differently is still lying to you.​

​

I served in Afghanistan as a US Marine, twice. Here’s the truth in two sentences

This veteran and Missouri U.S. Senate candidate saw what the Afghan National Security Forces really were. | Opinion

news.yahoo.com

​

HR McMaster, one of Donald Trump’s former national security advisers,
has condemned the deal struck with the Taliban during the previous
administration as a “surrender agreement”.​

“Our secretary of state [Mike Pompeo] signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban,” Mr McMaster said

​

In November 2020 in Qatar, the Taliban’s de facto leader and chief negotiator, Abdul Ghani Baradar, had reached an agreement with Trump Secretary of State on the withdrawal of U.S. forces.

Conservative columnist Max Boot noted that it was the Trump regime that designed this exit strategy, and lauded it until the last moment. “We are now being treated to the contemptible spectacle of people who sent the airplane into a nosedive complaining about the resulting crash."

Trump. on April 18, 2021: "Getting out of Afghanistan is a wonderful and positive thing to do. I planned to withdraw on May 1st, and we should keep as close to that schedule as possible." On June 26, Trump boasted, "I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn't stop the process. Twenty-one years is enough, don't we think?"

Boot observed, “not only did he oversee the negotiations with the Taliban, Pompeo convinced Pakistan to release from prison Abdul Ghani Baradar, Afghanistan's new president, to serve as an interlocutor. Pompeo met with Baradar last year and bragged about it on his Twitter feed, thereby legitimating the Taliban and disheartening the Afghan military."

In July, Pompeo was eager to "applaud" the withdrawal, saying he wanted '"the Afghans to take up the fight for themselves."

​

 

[struth]

No one lives in a vacuum or bubble. To pretend that we do, is disingenuous. Every action has a reaction.

Biden does own this, as said before, regardless of the conditions he inherited.

He inherited better conditions then he left Trump. Much better.

He created this. Nobody else is responsible for what is happening in Afgan today, but Xiden.

He could have done nothing. We'd be better off

 

[The Original Tree]

The Taliban is drawing red lines now, says it will 'provoke a reaction' if US seeks more time for evacuations

twitchy.com

Not Bidumb, they will dictate what will happen next.

Joe Biden in a single day becomes the single largest financier of terrorism. He armed all the whack jobs in Afghanistan with Tanks, Apache Helicopters, Humvees and Billions of Dollars in weapons and munitions.

 

[easyt65]

PLEADING WITH TERRORISTS
BREAKING NEWS

US confirms highest-level meeting with Taliban since fall of Kabul as fears over Afghan evacuations grow​

Biden, Austin, and the rest of Biden's administration KNOW they have f*ed this up!

1. Taking the military out of Afghanistan before US civilians and Afghan refugees were evacuated was a mistake of epic proportions
- Bringing back 3,000 - 4,000 US forces was pretty ineffective considering there was no where to put them except at 1 cut-off / surrounded airport and considering the Commander-and-Chief and Secretary of defense ordered them to secure and hold an airport stranded Americans can not get to & considering their order to remain in the airport, NOT go out and rescue stranded civilians.

2. Abandoning tanks, specially armored Humvees, helicopters, airplanes, and a mega arsenal of weapons was just plane STUPID, knowing the Taliban, Al Qaeda, & ISIS would fill the void once we left.

3. Abandoning Bagram, with its 2 runways, for the Kabul 1-runway international airport and withdrawing all US forces to this airport was literally putting our collective heads in a noose.
- This allowed the Taliban to surround the airport, preventing all stranded Americans from getting to the airport and surrounding US forces, 'trapping' them in the airport.

4. NOW Biden's handlers are panicking because they see the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and ISIS packing into Kabul, circling like sharks smelling 'blood in the water', they understand they f*ed up, they understand they have 7 days to get roughly 9,000 stranded Americans out of Afghanistan before the terrorists take advantage of the biggest hostage crisis in US history and / or begin publicly beheading / burning alive thousands of US citizens.....which is why the President of the United States, the most powerful free nation in the world, is BEGGING the terrorists for more time to get Americans out.

Talk about you 'negotiating from a position of weakness........

 

[skews13]

The same guys he signed an agreement with--he was going to attack?

The same guys he surrendered to.

 

[easyt65]

Joe Biden in a single day becomes the single largest financier of terrorism. He armed all the whack jobs in Afghanistan with Tanks, Apache Helicopters, Humvees and Billions of Dollars in weapons and munitions.

'Financier'? No. I disagree with you there. As you pointed out, Biden did not SELL everything the Taliban got - Biden GAVE it all to them. 'Christmas Come Early To The Taliban'.

Still, Biden still comes in 2nd to Barak Obama.

Obama armed, trained, supplied, financed, protected, and defended terrorists and Mexican Drug Cartels - Hell, Barry pimped out the US military to help Al Qaeda murder a sovereign nation's leader - a nation who was helping the coalition fight terrorists in Northern Africa -and take over a country of their own.

During the war against ISIS, Barry created Rules of Engagement (ROE) that prohibited the Coalition from striking the ISIS Black Market Oil refineries / industry, which financed over half of ISIS' terrorist activities. It was not until Barry declared he had isolated ISIS in a small area in the ME only to have ISIS affect the largest attack on France since WWII that the Coalition told Barry to shove his ROE and launched a massive attack on ISIS' Black Market refineries and trucks.
- Barry chose NOT to allow US a/c to join the retaliatory strike - instead he had US forces drop leaflets down to ISIS warning them the attack was coming. That was a betrayal of France & the coalition and pout Coalition pilots in danger, since ISIS knew they were coming.

Biden learned from the best, though....then again it was Barry who declared, "Never underestimate Joe's ability to f* things up."

 

[The Original Tree]

'Financier'? No. I disagree with you there. As you pointed out, Biden did not SELL everything the Taliban got - Biden GAVE it all to them. 'Christmas Come Early To The Taliban'.

Still, Biden still comes in 2nd to Barak Obama.

Obama armed, trained, supplied, financed, protected, and defended terrorists and Mexican Drug Cartels - Hell, Barry pimped out the US military to help Al Qaeda murder a sovereign nation's leader - a nation who was helping the coalition fight terrorists in Northern Africa -and take over a country of their own.

During the war against ISIS, Barry created Rules of Engagement (ROE) that prohibited the Coalition from striking the ISIS Black Market Oil refineries / industry, which financed over half of ISIS' terrorist activities. It was not until Barry declared he had isolated ISIS in a small area in the ME only to have ISIS affect the largest attack on France since WWII that the Coalition told Barry to shove his ROE and launched a massive attack on ISIS' Black Market refineries and trucks.
- Barry chose NOT to allow US a/c to join the retaliatory strike - instead he had US forces drop leaflets down to ISIS warning them the attack was coming. That was a betrayal of France & the coalition and pout Coalition pilots in danger, since ISIS knew they were coming.

Biden learned from the best, though....then again it was Barry who declared, "Never underestimate Joe's ability to f* things up."

No, his regime planned this and sold them the weapons. Just so happened that the price was FREE.

 

[schmidlap]

He could have done nothing. We'd be better off

A Pontius Pilate policy that the Former Guy had stridently opposed for many, many years, but reverted to during the four years he had the opportunity to make good on his oft-hyperbolic insistence upon immediate withdrawal.

Finally, in February 2020, the Trump administration and the Taliban signed an agreement that called for all U.S. troops to be out of Afghanistan by May of this year.

Trump praised the President's August withdrawal, but whined that what he had advocated for so many years should have been done sooner.

Trump calls Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal "wonderful" and "positive"​

but criticized the timeline and said the U.S. "should get out earlier."​

The Biden administration is now trying to mitigate the consequences of Pompeo's deal with the Taliban:

CIA Director William Burns met Taliban leader Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar in Kabul on Monday...​

​

[T]e most pressing issue is whether the U.S. airlift operation at the Kabul airport will continue beyond the Aug. 31 deadline.​

​

While news of the Burns-Baradar meeting came as a surprise, the U.S. and the Taliban are in regular contact and have a number of issues to work out.​

​

The CIA Chief And Taliban Leader Meet As Taliban Hold Firm Against Extending Deadline

The talks between CIA Director William Burns and Taliban leader Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar come as an Aug. 31 deadline looms for the end of the U.S. airlift and withdrawal of U.S. forces.

www.npr.org

​

​

 

[DBA]

The loser of the war never gets to dictate conditions. Just like Viet Nam. The losers don't dictate terms to the winners. Never gonna happen.

YOU LOST.

Just so you know, the US could blow Afghanistan along with the Taliban off the map and I don't mean by nuking them.

We could most certainly have dictated the terms. We tell the Taliban that we are leaving only after we get our people and whatever else we want to take with us. If they make a move we bomb them to oblivion. Rather simple really, but it takes a leader with some kahones, not Biden.

 

[366h34d]

It seems the Taliban believe they do. Will Biden take the wheel back, and stay beyond Aug 31? Today is the US own deadline to make the decision, either way, we will have a fxxking week ahead.

Taliban REFUSES to extend evacuation deadline despite secret talks with CIA boss: Regime issues chilling warning to westerners just minutes before G7 leaders plead with Biden to stay beyond August 31 - or leave refugees just 24 hours to get out
Taliban REFUSES to extend August deadline despite talks with CIA boss

 

[22lcidw]

A statement that could have been made at virtually any time during the past twenty years of squandered treasure, sacrificed lives, and blatant lies - the reasons that Trump had constantly railed that immediate withdrawal was imperative (except for the four years that he actually had the power to do it.)

His conviction that he failed to act upon is hardly unique:

I served in Afghanistan as a US Marine, twice. Here’s the truth in two sentences​

What we are seeing in Afghanistan right now shouldn’t shock you. It only seems that way because our institutions are steeped in systematic dishonesty. It doesn’t require a dissertation to explain what you’re seeing. Just two sentences.​

​

One: For 20 years, politicians, elites and D.C. military leaders lied to us about Afghanistan.​

​

Two: What happened last week was inevitable, and anyone saying differently is still lying to you.​

​

I served in Afghanistan as a US Marine, twice. Here’s the truth in two sentences

This veteran and Missouri U.S. Senate candidate saw what the Afghan National Security Forces really were. | Opinion

news.yahoo.com

​

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HR McMaster, one of Donald Trump’s former national security advisers,
has condemned the deal struck with the Taliban during the previous
administration as a “surrender agreement”.​

“Our secretary of state [Mike Pompeo] signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban,” Mr McMaster said

​

In November 2020 in Qatar, the Taliban’s de facto leader and chief negotiator, Abdul Ghani Baradar, had reached an agreement with Trump Secretary of State on the withdrawal of U.S. forces.

Conservative columnist Max Boot noted that it was the Trump regime that designed this exit strategy, and lauded it until the last moment. “We are now being treated to the contemptible spectacle of people who sent the airplane into a nosedive complaining about the resulting crash."

Trump. on April 18, 2021: "Getting out of Afghanistan is a wonderful and positive thing to do. I planned to withdraw on May 1st, and we should keep as close to that schedule as possible." On June 26, Trump boasted, "I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn't stop the process. Twenty-one years is enough, don't we think?"

Boot observed, “not only did he oversee the negotiations with the Taliban, Pompeo convinced Pakistan to release from prison Abdul Ghani Baradar, Afghanistan's new president, to serve as an interlocutor. Pompeo met with Baradar last year and bragged about it on his Twitter feed, thereby legitimating the Taliban and disheartening the Afghan military."

In July, Pompeo was eager to "applaud" the withdrawal, saying he wanted '"the Afghans to take up the fight for themselves."

​

If the Taliban kills Maize then it is a victory.

 

[easyt65]

A Pontius Pilate policy that the Former Guy had stridently opposed for many, many years, but reverted to during the four years he had the opportunity to make good on his oft-hyperbolic insistence upon immediate withdrawal.

Finally, in February 2020, the Trump administration and the Taliban signed an agreement that called for all U.S. troops to be out of Afghanistan by May of this year.

View attachment 530134​

Trump praised the President's August withdrawal, but whined that what he had advocated for so many years should have been done sooner.

Trump calls Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal "wonderful" and "positive"​

but criticized the timeline and said the U.S. "should get out earlier."​

The Biden administration is now trying to mitigate the consequences of Pompeo's deal with the Taliban:

CIA Director William Burns met Taliban leader Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar in Kabul on Monday...​

​

[T]e most pressing issue is whether the U.S. airlift operation at the Kabul airport will continue beyond the Aug. 31 deadline.​

​

While news of the Burns-Baradar meeting came as a surprise, the U.S. and the Taliban are in regular contact and have a number of issues to work out.​

​

The CIA Chief And Taliban Leader Meet As Taliban Hold Firm Against Extending Deadline

The talks between CIA Director William Burns and Taliban leader Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar come as an Aug. 31 deadline looms for the end of the U.S. airlift and withdrawal of U.S. forces.

www.npr.org

​

​

There was nothing with making an agreement on the US leaving....it has been the completely failed, f*ed up execution that has been the disaster.

Sect of Defense Lloyd Austin, who was more concerned with singling out white supremacist CONSERVATIVES in the military than evacuating US citizens out of Afghanistan, should be immediately fired.

'Woke' Sect of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Milley, who was more concerned with forcing the military academies and all active duty military to go through CRT training than he was evacuating Americans out of Afghanistan, should be fired immediately.

USCENTCOM Commander McKenzie who was responsible for Afghanistan, who surrendered Bagram Air Base - and its 2 big runways - for the 1-runway Kabul Intl airport, already returned to the US, but he should be fired immediately.

All 3, for deciding to remove all US troops from Afghanistan before Americans were evacuated, DEFINITELY need to be fired immediately.

 

[bendog]

The Taliban is drawing red lines now, says it will 'provoke a reaction' if US seeks more time for evacuations

twitchy.com

Not Bidumb, they will dictate what will happen next.

Guess who let the Taiban leader out of jail after the CIA and afghanis captured him?

Then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo defended the agreement, saying, “It was time, and the Taliban knew it was time."

From prison to power: Taliban leaders go from jail, to negotiating table, to Kabul

Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar Akhund returned to Afghanistan after nearly two decades on Tuesday, a reversal of fortune that saw him go from Taliban co-founder to prisoner in Pakistan to negotiator in Qatar to a now-central figure in Kabul.

news.yahoo.com

And I agree with Mike

 

[easyt65]

It seems the Taliban believe they do. Will Biden take the wheel back, and stay beyond Aug 31? Today is the US own deadline to make the decision, either way, we will have a fxxking week ahead.

I do not believe ISIS will allow the Taliban to give Biden more time, not that the Taliban are even considering it.

Biden and his administration have assumed the role of 'General Custer', surrounded by the sea of terrorists who are doing their best to delay / prevent Biden from getting every American out in the next 6 days. When the sand runs out, when the last second ticks off the clock, I predict ISIS will attack the airport, ...and God help any US civilian still trapped in Afghanistan.....

It could be the bloodiest, most 'humiliating' defeat the US has ever suffered....though I pray God works something out to prevent that from happening.

 

[kaz]

The Taliban is drawing red lines now, says it will 'provoke a reaction' if US seeks more time for evacuations

twitchy.com

Not Bidumb, they will dictate what will happen next.

Only Joe Biden could be this big a schmuck