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The immigration issue just keeps showing how the Democratic Party has a political goal to make White Voters the minority ASAP.
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The immigration issue just keeps showing how the Democratic Party has a political goal to make White Voters the minority ASAP.
No, it is not "fine", we need to have as accurate count as possible...that is the mission of the Census Bureau....and all other agencies that may use the information for other purposes.... we need apple to apple comparisons as well, to understand the statistics.the census, and an accurate account of people in each state, is used for several other purposes....
as example, how many vaccines the fed gvt needs to have on hand to ship to each region for some sort of epidemic....
An accurate census count is important.....
That's fine ... If they want to be counted ... The census allows for that even with a citizenship question.
If they don't want to answer ... Tough shit ... Oh well.
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yep, but you won't get it by doing this measure on the census.... this only leads to INACCURACY..... it won't give you any kind of account of how many illegals are here.....We have a 100% right to know how many people are in our country illegally.
No, it is not "fine", we need to have as accurate count as possible...that is the mission of the Census Bureau....and all other agencies that may use the information for other purposes.... we need apple to apple comparisons as well, to understand the statistics.
they can simply answer yes, they are all citizens, everyone can answer yes....and no one will know the difference...The problem is when ICE is going full bore to remove illegal aliens (I'm not saying whether that is right or wrong) the question WILL very much cause illegals not to answer the census at all, meaning they are not counted at all. THAT is the problem.What about people living here to work on a visa? Or legal immigrants who are not yet citizens? Maybe those things did not apply when the Constitution was written, but there are plenty of people here LEGALLY who cannot vote. (Also including convicted felons, in some states)
Asking a question in regards to citizenship does not particularly mean that you are not counted ... It is a statistical representation of your count.
None of which negates the ability of Congress to require that statistical data in the count (census).
If you want to discuss whether illegal aliens should count towards Representation ... Why should they?
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ICE doesn't have anything to do with the question I asked you.
What you see as a problem is whether or not foreign agents (illegal immigrants) will answer a census question.
That doesn't present a problem at all ... They answer it or they don't ... If they are illegal immigrants, that's their problem.
My question was ... "If you want to discuss whether illegal aliens should count towards Representation ... Why should they?"
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they can simply answer yes, they are all citizens, everyone can answer yes....and no one will know the difference...
how can it be enforced to answer correctly? some kind of Gestapo Force?
blah blah blah blah blah....they can simply answer yes, they are all citizens, everyone can answer yes....and no one will know the difference...
how can it be enforced to answer correctly? some kind of Gestapo Force?
An illegal immigrant is not a legal citizen ... And if they don't want to answer s simple question, they can go back home ... It's not complicated.
I don't have a problem with them asking the question ... Any problems you have with enforcement are your problems.
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Obviously, in the issue of voting, they don't count toward Representation. The objection and the actual impact of them not being counted is the stuff I brought up. You can ignore it if you like.The problem is when ICE is going full bore to remove illegal aliens (I'm not saying whether that is right or wrong) the question WILL very much cause illegals not to answer the census at all, meaning they are not counted at all. THAT is the problem.What about people living here to work on a visa? Or legal immigrants who are not yet citizens? Maybe those things did not apply when the Constitution was written, but there are plenty of people here LEGALLY who cannot vote. (Also including convicted felons, in some states)
Asking a question in regards to citizenship does not particularly mean that you are not counted ... It is a statistical representation of your count.
None of which negates the ability of Congress to require that statistical data in the count (census).
If you want to discuss whether illegal aliens should count towards Representation ... Why should they?
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ICE doesn't have anything to do with the question I asked you.
What you see as a problem is whether or not foreign agents (illegal immigrants) will answer a census question.
That doesn't present a problem at all ... They answer it or they don't ... If they are illegal immigrants, that's their problem.
My question was ... "If you want to discuss whether illegal aliens should count towards Representation ... Why should they?"
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More of the usual nonsense.
“This untimely, unnecessary, and untested citizenship question will disrupt planning at a critical point, undermine years of painstaking preparation, and increase costs significantly, putting a successful, accurate count at risk,” Gupta, now the president and CEO of The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, said in a statement. “The question is unnecessarily intrusive and will raise concerns in all households – native- and foreign-born, citizen and non-citizen – about the confidentiality of information provided to the government and how government authorities may use that information.”
Idiots. Citizenship status is not confidential.
Commerce Department Decides To Add A Question About Citizenship To 2020 Census | HuffPost
they can simply answer yes, they are all citizens, everyone can answer yes....and no one will know the difference...
how can it be enforced to answer correctly? some kind of Gestapo Force?
An illegal immigrant is not a legal citizen ... And if they don't want to answer s simple question, they can go back home ... It's not complicated.
I don't have a problem with them asking the question ... Any problems you have with enforcement are your problems.
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More of the usual nonsense.
“This untimely, unnecessary, and untested citizenship question will disrupt planning at a critical point, undermine years of painstaking preparation, and increase costs significantly, putting a successful, accurate count at risk,” Gupta, now the president and CEO of The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, said in a statement. “The question is unnecessarily intrusive and will raise concerns in all households – native- and foreign-born, citizen and non-citizen – about the confidentiality of information provided to the government and how government authorities may use that information.”
Idiots. Citizenship status is not confidential.
Commerce Department Decides To Add A Question About Citizenship To 2020 Census | HuffPost
the constitution requires that the census count "people"... not citizens. why? so the southerners could count slaves.
now live with it.
Everyone, illegal, legal non citizens, and citizens can simply check YES to being citizens.....More of the usual nonsense.
“This untimely, unnecessary, and untested citizenship question will disrupt planning at a critical point, undermine years of painstaking preparation, and increase costs significantly, putting a successful, accurate count at risk,” Gupta, now the president and CEO of The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, said in a statement. “The question is unnecessarily intrusive and will raise concerns in all households – native- and foreign-born, citizen and non-citizen – about the confidentiality of information provided to the government and how government authorities may use that information.”
Idiots. Citizenship status is not confidential.
Commerce Department Decides To Add A Question About Citizenship To 2020 Census | HuffPost
the constitution requires that the census count "people"... not citizens. why? so the southerners could count slaves.
now live with it.
Indeed.
It does not say that citizens cannot be designated in the count, as are race, marital status, number of children in household, etc.
Now live with it.
Everyone, illegal, legal non citizens, and citizens can simply check YES to being citizens.....More of the usual nonsense.
“This untimely, unnecessary, and untested citizenship question will disrupt planning at a critical point, undermine years of painstaking preparation, and increase costs significantly, putting a successful, accurate count at risk,” Gupta, now the president and CEO of The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, said in a statement. “The question is unnecessarily intrusive and will raise concerns in all households – native- and foreign-born, citizen and non-citizen – about the confidentiality of information provided to the government and how government authorities may use that information.”
Idiots. Citizenship status is not confidential.
Commerce Department Decides To Add A Question About Citizenship To 2020 Census | HuffPost
the constitution requires that the census count "people"... not citizens. why? so the southerners could count slaves.
now live with it.
Indeed.
It does not say that citizens cannot be designated in the count, as are race, marital status, number of children in household, etc.
Now live with it.
WHY do you want it separated by citizen vs non citizen if the counts have been proven to give inaccurate when that question is asked?
yep...sure seems that way....Everyone, illegal, legal non citizens, and citizens can simply check YES to being citizens.....More of the usual nonsense.
“This untimely, unnecessary, and untested citizenship question will disrupt planning at a critical point, undermine years of painstaking preparation, and increase costs significantly, putting a successful, accurate count at risk,” Gupta, now the president and CEO of The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, said in a statement. “The question is unnecessarily intrusive and will raise concerns in all households – native- and foreign-born, citizen and non-citizen – about the confidentiality of information provided to the government and how government authorities may use that information.”
Idiots. Citizenship status is not confidential.
Commerce Department Decides To Add A Question About Citizenship To 2020 Census | HuffPost
the constitution requires that the census count "people"... not citizens. why? so the southerners could count slaves.
now live with it.
Indeed.
It does not say that citizens cannot be designated in the count, as are race, marital status, number of children in household, etc.
Now live with it.
WHY do you want it separated by citizen vs non citizen if the counts have been proven to give inaccurate when that question is asked?
because they don't want places where there are Hispanics of any kind being represented in the gubmint. trumpscum cheat. it's what they do.
Obviously, in the issue of voting, they don't count toward Representation. The objection and the actual impact of them not being counted is the stuff I brought up. You can ignore it if you like.
I thought you righjtwingnut hacks were all about taking the constitution literally.
I guess that's except for when you want to harass brown people.
blah blah blah blah blah....
they simply will answer yes.... what's the punishment?