So now I am the "resistance"?

[AzogtheDefiler]

More loyal? I have two kids. Love em both equally. You would not understand. Awful decisions like allowing people like you have a vote?

Not sure why you keep dragging your family into arguments when no one was talking about them.

Point is, you put the interest of Israel above that of America.

Always have.

never heard of concentration camps have you?

Believes they are a myth....JoeB lives in a crazy alternate universe.

 

[jc456]

More loyal? I have two kids. Love em both equally. You would not understand. Awful decisions like allowing people like you have a vote?

Not sure why you keep dragging your family into arguments when no one was talking about them.

Point is, you put the interest of Israel above that of America.

Always have.

ISRAEL FIRST!

Don't we have a base in Germany?

 

[Rigby5]

DJT garnered 10mil more votes than in 2016 but still lost or looks like will lose by ~7mil votes. So the country wants to go Socialist. So now I am the de-facto resistance? Why? Do 77mil really want to pack the court, make PR and DC states, fund the Green New Deal, censor people they disagree with and support massive tax hikes??!!? Say it ain't so Joe.

I am pro the following:

• 2nd amendment - Right to Bear Arms
• Enhanced border security
• Pro choice (men and women up to 20 weeks)
• America First when it comes to manufacturing
• Strong military - continued military spend, as it also helps the private sector
• Fracking - Energy independence
• Continued support for Israel
• Small Government
• Gay Marriage/LGB Rights
• Big Tech accountability. If you're not an open platform you should not be regulated as such.
• Equality for all NOT Equity

I am Anti:

• Paris Accords - I like saving the environment but we should not be paying excess costs for this especially when Russia and China are the biggest polluters.
• Trans girls playing sports vs. biological girls. Unfair advantage.
• Increase in corporate and personal tax rates - would increase unemployment, encourage corporate inversions.
• Nationalized Healthcare but support a revamping of the current healthcare system. Make it more like auto insurance.
• Free college education - make it affordable by forcing colleges who charge significantly high tuition if the graduate cannot garner a job sufficient to pay that loan. Watch how quickly they stop charging $70k per year for sociology majors.
• Letting China off the hook for COVID-19 and for consistently stealing trade secrets and trying to undermine our economy.
• Doing anything with Iran until they admit they fund terror groups and cease that practice.
• Biased Media (need to be held accountable - unsure as to how)
• Censorship of any and all kinds.
• Defund the Police.
• Green New Deal
• Making PR and DC states
• Packing the Court
• Belief the Country is Systemically racist

So now I am the minority? Scary

I am an extreme lefist, progressive, liberal, socialist, and agree with most of that.

With fracking however, there has to be a limit. When it contaminates ground water, that is too far.

I also see not point in supporting Israel.
Jews are not the legitimate population of Palestine.
They were invaders in 1000 BC, were defeated and forced to leave after only a few hundred years, and are (or from), illegal European immigrants now.
They clearly do not know how to play fairly and are illegally stealing homes and farms from the native Palestinians.

 

[jc456]

More loyal? I have two kids. Love em both equally. You would not understand. Awful decisions like allowing people like you have a vote?

Not sure why you keep dragging your family into arguments when no one was talking about them.

Point is, you put the interest of Israel above that of America.

Always have.

never heard of concentration camps have you?

Believes they are a myth....JoeB lives in a crazy alternate universe.

Fringe.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

DJT garnered 10mil more votes than in 2016 but still lost or looks like will lose by ~7mil votes. So the country wants to go Socialist. So now I am the de-facto resistance? Why? Do 77mil really want to pack the court, make PR and DC states, fund the Green New Deal, censor people they disagree with and support massive tax hikes??!!? Say it ain't so Joe.

I am pro the following:

• 2nd amendment - Right to Bear Arms
• Enhanced border security
• Pro choice (men and women up to 20 weeks)
• America First when it comes to manufacturing
• Strong military - continued military spend, as it also helps the private sector
• Fracking - Energy independence
• Continued support for Israel
• Small Government
• Gay Marriage/LGB Rights
• Big Tech accountability. If you're not an open platform you should not be regulated as such.
• Equality for all NOT Equity

I am Anti:

• Paris Accords - I like saving the environment but we should not be paying excess costs for this especially when Russia and China are the biggest polluters.
• Trans girls playing sports vs. biological girls. Unfair advantage.
• Increase in corporate and personal tax rates - would increase unemployment, encourage corporate inversions.
• Nationalized Healthcare but support a revamping of the current healthcare system. Make it more like auto insurance.
• Free college education - make it affordable by forcing colleges who charge significantly high tuition if the graduate cannot garner a job sufficient to pay that loan. Watch how quickly they stop charging $70k per year for sociology majors.
• Letting China off the hook for COVID-19 and for consistently stealing trade secrets and trying to undermine our economy.
• Doing anything with Iran until they admit they fund terror groups and cease that practice.
• Biased Media (need to be held accountable - unsure as to how)
• Censorship of any and all kinds.
• Defund the Police.
• Green New Deal
• Making PR and DC states
• Packing the Court
• Belief the Country is Systemically racist

So now I am the minority? Scary

I am an extreme lefist, progressive, liberal, socialist, and agree with most of that.

With fracking however, there has to be a limit. When it contaminates ground water, that is too far.

I also see not point in supporting Israel.
Jews are not the legitimate population of Palestine.
They were invaders in 1000 BC, were defeated and forced to leave after only a few hundred years, and are (or from), illegal European immigrants now.
They clearly do not know how to play fairly and are illegally stealing homes and farms from the native Palestinians.

Untrue. Palestine has only been called Palestine since 1967. It was always Judea. And we don't "support" Israel. It is a military contract. Educate yourself please.

 

[DrLove]

DJT garnered 10mil more votes than in 2016 but still lost or looks like will lose by ~7mil votes. So the country wants to go Socialist. So now I am the de-facto resistance? Why? Do 77mil really want to pack the court, make PR and DC states, fund the Green New Deal, censor people they disagree with and support massive tax hikes??!!? Say it ain't so Joe.

I am pro the following:

• 2nd amendment - Right to Bear Arms
• Enhanced border security
• Pro choice (men and women up to 20 weeks)
• America First when it comes to manufacturing
• Strong military - continued military spend, as it also helps the private sector
• Fracking - Energy independence
• Continued support for Israel
• Small Government
• Gay Marriage/LGB Rights
• Big Tech accountability. If you're not an open platform you should not be regulated as such.
• Equality for all NOT Equity

I am Anti:

• Paris Accords - I like saving the environment but we should not be paying excess costs for this especially when Russia and China are the biggest polluters.
• Trans girls playing sports vs. biological girls. Unfair advantage.
• Increase in corporate and personal tax rates - would increase unemployment, encourage corporate inversions.
• Nationalized Healthcare but support a revamping of the current healthcare system. Make it more like auto insurance.
• Free college education - make it affordable by forcing colleges who charge significantly high tuition if the graduate cannot garner a job sufficient to pay that loan. Watch how quickly they stop charging $70k per year for sociology majors.
• Letting China off the hook for COVID-19 and for consistently stealing trade secrets and trying to undermine our economy.
• Doing anything with Iran until they admit they fund terror groups and cease that practice.
• Biased Media (need to be held accountable - unsure as to how)
• Censorship of any and all kinds.
• Defund the Police.
• Green New Deal
• Making PR and DC states
• Packing the Court
• Belief the Country is Systemically racist

So now I am the minority? Scary

No the country does not want to go socialist. The country is socialist, at least to some extent. I'm sure you are aware that essentially every nation on earth with just a couple of exceptions is both capitalist and socialist. Democrats and Republicans simple disagree on how much. I know of very few people in either party that wants the country to go 100% in either direction. As long as neither has complete control of government for a long period, there will some balance. Politicians make all kinds of promises to get elected but the reality is any lasting change has to involve congress which tempers those promises.

Republicans have been just as eager to pack the courts as democrats. The difference is republicans have done it.

Well....I hope you’re right. For example I do not want socialized healthcare nor do I want all college debt forgiven. Crazy talk IMO

We have trillions tied up in college debt...doing nothing but padding bank profits.

Most of it Federally guaranteed...but still at market rates. THAT is a scam.

Meanwhile those people can't buy houses...or cars....or start businesses because they have many tens of thousands of debt

Yep, seems like we had very low student interest rates at some point until GWB took over. Am I wrong about that? I'm not for forgiving all college debt. Bad precedent with the cost of college on its current trajectory. All future students would demand free college. But all existing loans should be recalculated at an interest rate of 1.5 or 2% and all new loans the same.

We DO need free 2 year community college or trade school - IMHO these are essential to America's future. Of course that will never happen unless we flip the Senate and send McTurtle to the lettuce patch.

 

[jc456]

With fracking however, there has to be a limit. When it contaminates ground water, that is too far.

the fracking doesn't contaminate the water. the materials already in the soil do that.

Scientists agree: Fracking doesn't harm our water

Scientists and researchers from over two-dozen governmental organizations, universities, and nonprofits confirm fracking does not contaminate groundwater.

www.cred.org

 

[jc456]

DJT garnered 10mil more votes than in 2016 but still lost or looks like will lose by ~7mil votes. So the country wants to go Socialist. So now I am the de-facto resistance? Why? Do 77mil really want to pack the court, make PR and DC states, fund the Green New Deal, censor people they disagree with and support massive tax hikes??!!? Say it ain't so Joe.

I am pro the following:

• 2nd amendment - Right to Bear Arms
• Enhanced border security
• Pro choice (men and women up to 20 weeks)
• America First when it comes to manufacturing
• Strong military - continued military spend, as it also helps the private sector
• Fracking - Energy independence
• Continued support for Israel
• Small Government
• Gay Marriage/LGB Rights
• Big Tech accountability. If you're not an open platform you should not be regulated as such.
• Equality for all NOT Equity

I am Anti:

• Paris Accords - I like saving the environment but we should not be paying excess costs for this especially when Russia and China are the biggest polluters.
• Trans girls playing sports vs. biological girls. Unfair advantage.
• Increase in corporate and personal tax rates - would increase unemployment, encourage corporate inversions.
• Nationalized Healthcare but support a revamping of the current healthcare system. Make it more like auto insurance.
• Free college education - make it affordable by forcing colleges who charge significantly high tuition if the graduate cannot garner a job sufficient to pay that loan. Watch how quickly they stop charging $70k per year for sociology majors.
• Letting China off the hook for COVID-19 and for consistently stealing trade secrets and trying to undermine our economy.
• Doing anything with Iran until they admit they fund terror groups and cease that practice.
• Biased Media (need to be held accountable - unsure as to how)
• Censorship of any and all kinds.
• Defund the Police.
• Green New Deal
• Making PR and DC states
• Packing the Court
• Belief the Country is Systemically racist

So now I am the minority? Scary

No the country does not want to go socialist. The country is socialist, at least to some extent. I'm sure you are aware that essentially every nation on earth with just a couple of exceptions is both capitalist and socialist. Democrats and Republicans simple disagree on how much. I know of very few people in either party that wants the country to go 100% in either direction. As long as neither has complete control of government for a long period, there will some balance. Politicians make all kinds of promises to get elected but the reality is any lasting change has to involve congress which tempers those promises.

Republicans have been just as eager to pack the courts as democrats. The difference is republicans have done it.

Well....I hope you’re right. For example I do not want socialized healthcare nor do I want all college debt forgiven. Crazy talk IMO

We have trillions tied up in college debt...doing nothing but padding bank profits.

Most of it Federally guaranteed...but still at market rates. THAT is a scam.

Meanwhile those people can't buy houses...or cars....or start businesses because they have many tens of thousands of debt

Yep, seems like we had very low student interest rates at some point until GWB took over. Am I wrong about that? I'm not for forgiving all college debt. Bad precedent with the cost of college on its current trajectory. All future students would demand free college. But all existing loans should be recalculated at an interest rate of 1.5 or 2% and all new loans the same.

We DO need free 2 year community college or trade school - IMHO these are essential to America's future. Of course that will never happen unless we flip the Senate and send McTurtle to the lettuce patch.

why don't you do some research and prove your point?

 

[Rigby5]

More loyal? I have two kids. Love em both equally. You would not understand. Awful decisions like allowing people like you have a vote?

Not sure why you keep dragging your family into arguments when no one was talking about them.

Point is, you put the interest of Israel above that of America.

Always have.

never heard of concentration camps have you?

Believes they are a myth....JoeB lives in a crazy alternate universe.

The US also put suspected traitors into concentration camps.
Why did Germany distrust Jews in WWII?
It was because it was Jews who caused Germany to have to surrender in WWI.
It was Chaim Weissman who stole the formula for synthetic acetone for the production of cordite explosives, and gave it to the British.
And it was other Jewish spies who stole the Zimmerman Letter from Berlin, in order to get the US into the war against Germany.
In return, the Zionists got the Balfour Declaration, which said that England would support Jews being given a homeland in Palestine.
Something England has no right to give since Lawrence of Arabia had just promised the Palestinians independence for their help against the Ottoman Empire.

 

[jc456]

More loyal? I have two kids. Love em both equally. You would not understand. Awful decisions like allowing people like you have a vote?

Not sure why you keep dragging your family into arguments when no one was talking about them.

Point is, you put the interest of Israel above that of America.

Always have.

never heard of concentration camps have you?

Believes they are a myth....JoeB lives in a crazy alternate universe.

The US also put suspected traitors into concentration camps.
Why did Germany distrust Jews in WWII?
It was because it was Jews who caused Germany to have to surrender in WWI.
It was Chaim Weissman who stole the formula for synthetic acetone for the production of cordite explosives, and gave it to the British.
And it was other Jewish spies who stole the Zimmerman Letter from Berlin, in order to get the US into the war against Germany.
In return, the Zionists got the Balfour Declaration, which said that England would support Jews being given a homeland in Palestine.
Something England has no right to give since Lawrence of Arabia had just promised the Palestinians independence for their help against the Ottoman Empire.

so all those old and young civilians were merciless to the germans huh?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

More loyal? I have two kids. Love em both equally. You would not understand. Awful decisions like allowing people like you have a vote?

Not sure why you keep dragging your family into arguments when no one was talking about them.

Point is, you put the interest of Israel above that of America.

Always have.

never heard of concentration camps have you?

Believes they are a myth....JoeB lives in a crazy alternate universe.

The US also put suspected traitors into concentration camps.
Why did Germany distrust Jews in WWII?
It was because it was Jews who caused Germany to have to surrender in WWI.
It was Chaim Weissman who stole the formula for synthetic acetone for the production of cordite explosives, and gave it to the British.
And it was other Jewish spies who stole the Zimmerman Letter from Berlin, in order to get the US into the war against Germany.
In return, the Zionists got the Balfour Declaration, which said that England would support Jews being given a homeland in Palestine.
Something England has no right to give since Lawrence of Arabia had just promised the Palestinians independence for their help against the Ottoman Empire.

I cannot deal with your overt anti semitism and this isn't the thread for it anyway. Yes, we Jews are the root of all evil in the world.

 

[jc456]

The US also put suspected traitors into concentration camps.

japanese? that was wrong. should never ever happen again. Japan bombed us first as I recall.

 

[Rigby5]

With fracking however, there has to be a limit. When it contaminates ground water, that is too far.

the fracking doesn't contaminate the water. the materials already in the soil do that.

Scientists agree: Fracking doesn't harm our water

Scientists and researchers from over two-dozen governmental organizations, universities, and nonprofits confirm fracking does not contaminate groundwater.

www.cred.org

Oh come on, of course fracking can and does sometimes contaminate the ground water.
Fracking normally is very deep, and ground water is far above that.
But there are lots of cases where after fracking, the water coming out of the well becomes flammable.
That is NOT materials already in the soil.
Ground water does not touch soil.
It is much deeper than soil, in bedrock layers.

 

[Rigby5]

More loyal? I have two kids. Love em both equally. You would not understand. Awful decisions like allowing people like you have a vote?

Not sure why you keep dragging your family into arguments when no one was talking about them.

Point is, you put the interest of Israel above that of America.

Always have.

never heard of concentration camps have you?

Believes they are a myth....JoeB lives in a crazy alternate universe.

The US also put suspected traitors into concentration camps.
Why did Germany distrust Jews in WWII?
It was because it was Jews who caused Germany to have to surrender in WWI.
It was Chaim Weissman who stole the formula for synthetic acetone for the production of cordite explosives, and gave it to the British.
And it was other Jewish spies who stole the Zimmerman Letter from Berlin, in order to get the US into the war against Germany.
In return, the Zionists got the Balfour Declaration, which said that England would support Jews being given a homeland in Palestine.
Something England has no right to give since Lawrence of Arabia had just promised the Palestinians independence for their help against the Ottoman Empire.

I cannot deal with your overt anti semitism and this isn't the thread for it anyway. Yes, we Jews are the root of all evil in the world.

First of all, the word "Semitic" does not mean Jewish.
It means "of an Arab language group", of which Hebrew is just one of the many Arab languages.
Second of all, I am Jewish, and no Jew should support the crimes Israel is guilty of.

 

[jc456]

With fracking however, there has to be a limit. When it contaminates ground water, that is too far.

the fracking doesn't contaminate the water. the materials already in the soil do that.

Scientists agree: Fracking doesn't harm our water

Scientists and researchers from over two-dozen governmental organizations, universities, and nonprofits confirm fracking does not contaminate groundwater.

www.cred.org

Oh come on, of course fracking can and does sometimes contaminate the ground water.
Fracking normally is very deep, and ground water is far above that.
But there are lots of cases where after fracking, the water coming out of the well becomes flammable.
That is NOT materials already in the soil.
Ground water does not touch soil.
It is much deeper than soil, in bedrock layers.

I posted the scientific study from 2017. post something that contradicts that study. dude, all you fks ever do is scream shit over and over like that makes you right. it doesn't. post some fking facts. asshole.

 

[jc456]

More loyal? I have two kids. Love em both equally. You would not understand. Awful decisions like allowing people like you have a vote?

Not sure why you keep dragging your family into arguments when no one was talking about them.

Point is, you put the interest of Israel above that of America.

Always have.

never heard of concentration camps have you?

Believes they are a myth....JoeB lives in a crazy alternate universe.

The US also put suspected traitors into concentration camps.
Why did Germany distrust Jews in WWII?
It was because it was Jews who caused Germany to have to surrender in WWI.
It was Chaim Weissman who stole the formula for synthetic acetone for the production of cordite explosives, and gave it to the British.
And it was other Jewish spies who stole the Zimmerman Letter from Berlin, in order to get the US into the war against Germany.
In return, the Zionists got the Balfour Declaration, which said that England would support Jews being given a homeland in Palestine.
Something England has no right to give since Lawrence of Arabia had just promised the Palestinians independence for their help against the Ottoman Empire.

I cannot deal with your overt anti semitism and this isn't the thread for it anyway. Yes, we Jews are the root of all evil in the world.

First of all, the word "Semitic" does not mean Jewish.
It means "of an Arab language group", of which Hebrew is just one of the many Arab languages.
Second of all, I am Jewish, and no Jew should support the crimes Israel is guilty of.

off topic, start a thread and let's discuss, you are derailing this one.

 

[Rigby5]

The US also put suspected traitors into concentration camps.

japaneses? that was wrong. should never ever happen again. Japan bombed us first as I recall.

Japan bombed the fleet at Pearl Harbor, which should not have been occupied by the US anyway.
And they only did it after we illegally cut off their oil, iron, and food from places like Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, China, etc.
Not saying the Japanese did not start it, by invading China, but the US was not innocent either.

 

[jc456]

The US also put suspected traitors into concentration camps.

japaneses? that was wrong. should never ever happen again. Japan bombed us first as I recall.

Japan bombed the fleet at Pearl Harbor, which should not have been occupied by the US anyway.
And they only did it after we illegally cut off their oil, iron, and food from places like Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, China, etc.
Not saying the Japanese did not start it, by invading China, but the US was not innocent either.

Hawaii was a US State. a fact. they bombed us first, a fact. what ever our strategies were due to military influences by China and Japan. And the Philippines? come on man, you have no clue.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

More loyal? I have two kids. Love em both equally. You would not understand. Awful decisions like allowing people like you have a vote?

Not sure why you keep dragging your family into arguments when no one was talking about them.

Point is, you put the interest of Israel above that of America.

Always have.

never heard of concentration camps have you?

Believes they are a myth....JoeB lives in a crazy alternate universe.

The US also put suspected traitors into concentration camps.
Why did Germany distrust Jews in WWII?
It was because it was Jews who caused Germany to have to surrender in WWI.
It was Chaim Weissman who stole the formula for synthetic acetone for the production of cordite explosives, and gave it to the British.
And it was other Jewish spies who stole the Zimmerman Letter from Berlin, in order to get the US into the war against Germany.
In return, the Zionists got the Balfour Declaration, which said that England would support Jews being given a homeland in Palestine.
Something England has no right to give since Lawrence of Arabia had just promised the Palestinians independence for their help against the Ottoman Empire.

I cannot deal with your overt anti semitism and this isn't the thread for it anyway. Yes, we Jews are the root of all evil in the world.

First of all, the word "Semitic" does not mean Jewish.
It means "of an Arab language group", of which Hebrew is just one of the many Arab languages.
Second of all, I am Jewish, and no Jew should support the crimes Israel is guilty of.

Again, not the thread for it and I disagree with you and antisemitic means anti Jew. Stop using your historical drivel. Just like the "N" word is a negative racist term, don't care about why it was developed historically. You're on of those traitor Jews. Great.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The US also put suspected traitors into concentration camps.

japaneses? that was wrong. should never ever happen again. Japan bombed us first as I recall.

Japan bombed the fleet at Pearl Harbor, which should not have been occupied by the US anyway.
And they only did it after we illegally cut off their oil, iron, and food from places like Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, China, etc.
Not saying the Japanese did not start it, by invading China, but the US was not innocent either.

Don't derail this thread. Last Warning.