So much for Trump not starting new wars.

[gipper]

That's because each party, when in power, is faced with reality. So usually each party does the same thing.

You need to realize that when Republicans cried about "Obama's wars", they were just playing politics. Whether they know they were doing it or not.

Yeah the reality of doing the bidding of the billionaires, while ******* over the people. Wake up!


Trump (like Biden and Obama and Bush before him) fulfills ONLY the secret private promises he made to his billionaires — NOT the promises he publicly made to his voters; and this has been normal for U.S. Presidents ever since AT LEAST 1980, according to the empirical scientific studies that have been done about the matter.

The authoritative study of how corrupt the U.S. now is, is the best-selling book by former Goldman Sachs Managing Director Nomi Prins, who had quit finance because of how hopelessly corrupt it has become (and when she finally decided she could no longer take it, she just quit the field entirely), and the book is titled Permanent Distortion: How the Financial Markets Abandoned the Real Economy Forever.
Similar grim futures loom for U.S., Germany, UK, Israel, and South Africa.

 

[sealybobo]

Yeah the reality of doing the bidding of the billionaires, while ******* over the people. Wake up!


Trump (like Biden and Obama and Bush before him) fulfills ONLY the secret private promises he made to his billionaires — NOT the promises he publicly made to his voters; and this has been normal for U.S. Presidents ever since AT LEAST 1980, according to the empirical scientific studies that have been done about the matter.

The authoritative study of how corrupt the U.S. now is, is the best-selling book by former Goldman Sachs Managing Director Nomi Prins, who had quit finance because of how hopelessly corrupt it has become (and when she finally decided she could no longer take it, she just quit the field entirely), and the book is titled Permanent Distortion: How the Financial Markets Abandoned the Real Economy Forever.
Similar grim futures loom for U.S., Germany, UK, Israel, and South Africa.

I tried to see things positively this weekend. I said what Trump is doing to the stock market only hurts rich people. He's trying to bring jobs back to America and kick illegals out to help poor blue collar Americans. They don't care about the stock market. Only rich people care.

Then my rich brother reminded me that rich people are buying stocks low right now. So even they don't mind that Trump has tanked the stock market. Buy low, sell high. It'll come back.

 

[struth]

That's because each party, when in power, is faced with reality. So usually each party does the same thing.

You need to realize that when Republicans cried about "Obama's wars", they were just playing politics. Whether they know they were doing it or not.

Obama started a lot of unnecessary wars. Is calling that out politics?

 

[jc456]

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sucks to be you!

 

[jc456]

Democrats support Houthi piracy and sinking commercial ships. There's no other explanation.

along with men participating in women's sports
child trafficking
criminals who are here illegally killing and raping little girls and boys
no oil so we don't have power
cars, cause they are too stupid to know that without oil, you can't even have an EV.
high prices
high inflation
corruption
wasteful spending
for democrats over country, at 65%

 

[sealybobo]

Obama started a lot of unnecessary wars. Is calling that out politics?

Well Trump is continuing those wars. Obama must have had good reasons to bomb those countries. Just like President Trump has good reasons.

So yes that's playing politics. What you are doing.

 

[struth]

Well Trump is continuing those wars. Obama must have had good reasons to bomb those countries. Just like President Trump has good reasons.

So yes that's playing politics. What you are doing.

what wars did he continue? The Libya issue was done, the war with ISIS he finished. So not sure which ones you are talking about?

 

[rightwinger]

Obama started a lot of unnecessary wars. Is calling that out politics?

name some

 

[ekrem]

Dances with shekels

 

[struth]

name some

Libya, Yemen, Somila, Pakistian...that's of course beyond what was already happening in Iraq and Afghan. It should be noted he was handed a free and stable Iraq (at least according to what he himself said) and then had to go back in because he left to quickly

 

[jc456]

Well Trump is continuing those wars.

What wars are you referring to? I’m unaware of any US boots on the ground

Obama must have had good reasons to bomb those countries. Just like President Trump has good reasons.

Yep, doesn’t mean war

So yes that's playing politics. What you are doing.

It’s called security

 

[rightwinger]

Libya, Yemen, Somila, Pakistian...that's of course beyond what was already happening in Iraq and Afghan. It should be noted he was handed a free and stable Iraq (at least according to what he himself said) and then had to go back in because he left to quickly

Really?
I didn’t see boots on the ground

How many Americans died in Obamas wars

 

[struth]

Really?
I didn’t see boots on the ground

How many Americans died in Obamas wars

Geez man it's hard to say, from the first Ambassdor killed in action in decades, to the Americans Obama ordered to be killed by extrajudical assassinations, to the soldiers....I don't have the figures in front of me.

 

[rightwinger]

Geez man it's hard to say, from the first Ambassdor killed in action in decades, to the Americans Obama ordered to be killed by extrajudical assassinations, to the soldiers....I don't have the figures in front of me.

That is what you call a war?

 

[Donald H]

Dozens killed in US strikes on Houthi targets across Yemen: 'They’re everywhere'

Houthis say 31 killed in US airstrikes, with reports number could rise; strikes target Houthi leadership and send warning to Iran amid rising tensions between Washington and Tehran; Houthis claim 'devastating attacks' left over 100 wounded

www.ynetnews.com

Yes, this is actions that start up a new war with Iran.

How many billions will this end up costing us?

I'm pretty sure that America won't start a war with Iran.

We could be absolutely sure if it wasn't for the Trump factor and his need to stroke his ego with a show of strength.

I think that the US military will take 'corrective' measures to stop Trump if he steps out of bounds on Iran, Russia, and the brics.

 

[pknopp]

So much for cheaper fuel prices.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/17/oil-rises-as-trump-says-iran-will-be-held-responsible-for-any-future-houthi-attacks.html

 

[theHawk]

Dozens killed in US strikes on Houthi targets across Yemen: 'They’re everywhere'

Houthis say 31 killed in US airstrikes, with reports number could rise; strikes target Houthi leadership and send warning to Iran amid rising tensions between Washington and Tehran; Houthis claim 'devastating attacks' left over 100 wounded

www.ynetnews.com

Yes, this is actions that start up a new war with Iran.

How many billions will this end up costing us?

Bombing terrorists that attack civilian and military ships is not “starting” a war, much less an unprovoked war.

The Houthis want to **** around, they’re going to find out.

 

[Donald H]

So much for cheaper fuel prices.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/17/oil-rises-as-trump-says-iran-will-be-held-responsible-for-any-future-houthi-attacks.html

Thanks for the 'informative'.

If Iran is attacked it's 99% certain that the Zionist regime will be attacked and they won't be able to continue as a country after the counter attack.

We're talking about the biggest risk of nuclear war. The Zionists want to die but they want the dying to be their prophesied way.

 

[pknopp]

Bombing terrorists that attack civilian and military ships is not “starting” a war, much less an unprovoked war.

The Houthis want to **** around, they’re going to find out.

Which ship was attacked?

 

[Care4all]

Trump is a warmonger.

Starting with his own country, that he's determined to destroy, while Trumpers cheer him on with glee...

I don't think I'll ever understand it....