So let me get this straight...

[Slade3200]

Only Sanders and Harris raised their hand for taking away private healthcare. The rest were against it.

I didn’t hear anybody say they would give free healthcare to illegal immigrants. They said illegal immigrants could buy in so they had access to healthcare.

Those assholes aren’t willing to say out loud what they really want to do.
Every one of them would vote to scrap private healthcare in favor of single payer state run if they had the chance.

Well thank god we have you who can read minds! #delusional

Oh please. We called you people out when they passed Obamacare, we told you their real goal was single payer government healthcare for all and you people swore it wasn't true. Well here we are.

What’s wrong with creating a public option and if it works better than private and people want it going to single payer... isn’t that what competition is all about? Is the government not allowed to compete with the private market?

Wow, evidently someone isn't paying attention. What is being proposed is not an option.

Yes it is... I think only 2 or 3 of 20 want to abolish private insurance. The rest are proposing a public option

 

[theHawk]

...from what I just heard from the leading Democratic presidential candidates, they will:

a) Take away everyone's private healthcare plans.

and

b) Give free healthcare to illegal immigrants.

Seriously?

Wow, that sounds like a winning platform to run on.

Only Sanders and Harris raised their hand for taking away private healthcare. The rest were against it.

I didn’t hear anybody say they would give free healthcare to illegal immigrants. They said illegal immigrants could buy in so they had access to healthcare.

Those assholes aren’t willing to say out loud what they really want to do.
Every one of them would vote to scrap private healthcare in favor of single payer state run if they had the chance.

Well thank god we have you who can read minds! #delusional

Oh please. We called you people out when they passed Obamacare, we told you their real goal was single payer government healthcare for all and you people swore it wasn't true. Well here we are.

What’s wrong with creating a public option and if it works better than private and people want it going to single payer... isn’t that what competition is all about? Is the government not allowed to compete with the private market?

Because the taxpayers would be paying for a system they don’t use.

 

[Slade3200]

Only Sanders and Harris raised their hand for taking away private healthcare. The rest were against it.

I didn’t hear anybody say they would give free healthcare to illegal immigrants. They said illegal immigrants could buy in so they had access to healthcare.

Those assholes aren’t willing to say out loud what they really want to do.
Every one of them would vote to scrap private healthcare in favor of single payer state run if they had the chance.

Well thank god we have you who can read minds! #delusional

Oh please. We called you people out when they passed Obamacare, we told you their real goal was single payer government healthcare for all and you people swore it wasn't true. Well here we are.

What’s wrong with creating a public option and if it works better than private and people want it going to single payer... isn’t that what competition is all about? Is the government not allowed to compete with the private market?

Because the taxpayers would be paying for a system they don’t use.

How about we just listen to the plans before we jump to conclusions. If they don’t make sense then beat them in debate and don’t vote for them. Tax payers are already paying for the uninsured and we are paying crazy amounts for insurance and medications and care.

 

[Thinker101]

Those assholes aren’t willing to say out loud what they really want to do.
Every one of them would vote to scrap private healthcare in favor of single payer state run if they had the chance.

Well thank god we have you who can read minds! #delusional

Oh please. We called you people out when they passed Obamacare, we told you their real goal was single payer government healthcare for all and you people swore it wasn't true. Well here we are.

What’s wrong with creating a public option and if it works better than private and people want it going to single payer... isn’t that what competition is all about? Is the government not allowed to compete with the private market?

Because the taxpayers would be paying for a system they don’t use.

How about we just listen to the plans before we jump to conclusions. If they don’t make sense then beat them in debate and don’t vote for them. Tax payers are already paying for the uninsured and we are paying crazy amounts for insurance and medications and care.

If you feel it's crazy now, wait for single payer, you'll wish for those old crazy days.

 

[Rustic]

Those assholes aren’t willing to say out loud what they really want to do.
Every one of them would vote to scrap private healthcare in favor of single payer state run if they had the chance.

Well thank god we have you who can read minds! #delusional

Oh please. We called you people out when they passed Obamacare, we told you their real goal was single payer government healthcare for all and you people swore it wasn't true. Well here we are.

What’s wrong with creating a public option and if it works better than private and people want it going to single payer... isn’t that what competition is all about? Is the government not allowed to compete with the private market?

Wow, evidently someone isn't paying attention. What is being proposed is not an option.

Yes it is... I think only 2 or 3 of 20 want to abolish private insurance. The rest are proposing a public option

Lol
You do realize a public option will eventually get rid of all competition… It’s called socialism

 

[Diver Diva]

Wow.
Always interesting to hear from the alternate universe.

304 - 227 is pretty much an azzwhoopin in any universe.

Keep showing how ignorant you are... you make my job easy

Where am I wrong? Please educate me.

 

[Slade3200]

Wow.
Always interesting to hear from the alternate universe.

304 - 227 is pretty much an azzwhoopin in any universe.

Keep showing how ignorant you are... you make my job easy

Where am I wrong? Please educate me.

Where are you wrong? Illegals working for $5 per hour... where is that happening? Also you have private insurance, that’s different than a public option for basic care which is what’s being proposed. So nobody claimed they would be getting the same insurance you currently have

 

[Rustic]

Wow.
Always interesting to hear from the alternate universe.

304 - 227 is pretty much an azzwhoopin in any universe.

Keep showing how ignorant you are... you make my job easy

Where am I wrong? Please educate me.

Where are you wrong? Illegals working for $5 per hour... where is that happening? Also you have private insurance, that’s different than a public option for basic care which is what’s being proposed. So nobody claimed they would be getting the same insurance you currently have

Lol
Socialist talk is always bad, For the individual... the legal ones

 

[Slade3200]

Well thank god we have you who can read minds! #delusional

Oh please. We called you people out when they passed Obamacare, we told you their real goal was single payer government healthcare for all and you people swore it wasn't true. Well here we are.

What’s wrong with creating a public option and if it works better than private and people want it going to single payer... isn’t that what competition is all about? Is the government not allowed to compete with the private market?

Wow, evidently someone isn't paying attention. What is being proposed is not an option.

Yes it is... I think only 2 or 3 of 20 want to abolish private insurance. The rest are proposing a public option

Lol
You do realize a public option will eventually get rid of all competition… It’s called socialism

Perhaps private insurance will present a better more desirable option... that would be ideal

 

[Thinker101]

Oh please. We called you people out when they passed Obamacare, we told you their real goal was single payer government healthcare for all and you people swore it wasn't true. Well here we are.

What’s wrong with creating a public option and if it works better than private and people want it going to single payer... isn’t that what competition is all about? Is the government not allowed to compete with the private market?

Wow, evidently someone isn't paying attention. What is being proposed is not an option.

Yes it is... I think only 2 or 3 of 20 want to abolish private insurance. The rest are proposing a public option

Lol
You do realize a public option will eventually get rid of all competition… It’s called socialism

Perhaps private insIran was will present a better more desirable option... that would be ideal

Say what? Kinda doubt crap insurance for crap service is desirable.

 

[Slade3200]

Wow.
Always interesting to hear from the alternate universe.

304 - 227 is pretty much an azzwhoopin in any universe.

Keep showing how ignorant you are... you make my job easy

Where am I wrong? Please educate me.

Where are you wrong? Illegals working for $5 per hour... where is that happening? Also you have private insurance, that’s different than a public option for basic care which is what’s being proposed. So nobody claimed they would be getting the same insurance you currently have

Lol
Socialist talk is always bad, For the individual... the legal ones

Only a dimwit who can’t handle smart debate would say that

 

[Slade3200]

What’s wrong with creating a public option and if it works better than private and people want it going to single payer... isn’t that what competition is all about? Is the government not allowed to compete with the private market?

Wow, evidently someone isn't paying attention. What is being proposed is not an option.

Yes it is... I think only 2 or 3 of 20 want to abolish private insurance. The rest are proposing a public option

Lol
You do realize a public option will eventually get rid of all competition… It’s called socialism

Perhaps private insIran was will present a better more desirable option... that would be ideal

Say what? Kinda doubt crap insurance for crap service is desirable.

Well I never said anything about desiring crap insurance so I don’t know where that came from.

 

[Thinker101]

Wow, evidently someone isn't paying attention. What is being proposed is not an option.

Yes it is... I think only 2 or 3 of 20 want to abolish private insurance. The rest are proposing a public option

Lol
You do realize a public option will eventually get rid of all competition… It’s called socialism

Perhaps private insIran was will present a better more desirable option... that would be ideal

Say what? Kinda doubt crap insurance for crap service is desirable.

Well I never said anything about desiring crap insurance so I don’t know where that came from.

Really? Are you expecting better insurance for less or free?

 

[Rustic]

Wow.
Always interesting to hear from the alternate universe.

304 - 227 is pretty much an azzwhoopin in any universe.

Keep showing how ignorant you are... you make my job easy

Where am I wrong? Please educate me.

Where are you wrong? Illegals working for $5 per hour... where is that happening? Also you have private insurance, that’s different than a public option for basic care which is what’s being proposed. So nobody claimed they would be getting the same insurance you currently have

Lol
Socialist talk is always bad, For the individual... the legal ones

Only a dimwit who can’t handle smart debate would say that

 

[Slade3200]

Yes it is... I think only 2 or 3 of 20 want to abolish private insurance. The rest are proposing a public option

Lol
You do realize a public option will eventually get rid of all competition… It’s called socialism

Perhaps private insIran was will present a better more desirable option... that would be ideal

Say what? Kinda doubt crap insurance for crap service is desirable.

Well I never said anything about desiring crap insurance so I don’t know where that came from.

Really? Are you expecting better insurance for less or free?

Smart policy can help drive prices down. Insurance companies and pharma make Billions. Just look at their advertising budgets. Apply some of those profits back towards lowering costs of care for the people and there is plenty of room to improve our system

 

[Thinker101]

Lol
You do realize a public option will eventually get rid of all competition… It’s called socialism

Perhaps private insIran was will present a better more desirable option... that would be ideal

Say what? Kinda doubt crap insurance for crap service is desirable.

Well I never said anything about desiring crap insurance so I don’t know where that came from.

Really? Are you expecting better insurance for less or free?

Smart policy can help drive prices down. Insurance companies and pharma make Billions. Just look at their advertising budgets. Apply some of those profits back towards lowering costs of care for the people and there is plenty of room to improve our system

No doubt, smart policy can drive down prices, but we're talking government here, anything smart is not really a policy. Insurance company budgets will go away because they will no longer be needed, any savings will get sucked into the black hole know as government. Pharma will remain pharma, with advancements reduced to a dribble.

 

[Slade3200]

Perhaps private insIran was will present a better more desirable option... that would be ideal

Say what? Kinda doubt crap insurance for crap service is desirable.

Well I never said anything about desiring crap insurance so I don’t know where that came from.

Really? Are you expecting better insurance for less or free?

Smart policy can help drive prices down. Insurance companies and pharma make Billions. Just look at their advertising budgets. Apply some of those profits back towards lowering costs of care for the people and there is plenty of room to improve our system

No doubt, smart policy can drive down prices, but we're talking government here, anything smart is not really a policy. Insurance company budgets will go away because they will no longer be needed, any savings will get sucked into the black hole know as government. Pharma will remain pharma, with advancements reduced to a dribble.

We are talking about all options. Private and public. Whoever does best should prevail. Something needs to change though

 

[Norman]

...from what I just heard from the leading Democratic presidential candidates, they will:

a) Take away everyone's private healthcare plans.

and

b) Give free healthcare to illegal immigrants.

Seriously?

Wow, that sounds like a winning platform to run on.

Someone forgot to tell them they are running for American, not for Mexican president.

 

[Diver Diva]

Where are you wrong? Illegals working for $5 per hour... where is that happening? Also you have private insurance, that’s different than a public option for basic care which is what’s being proposed. So nobody claimed they would be getting the same insurance you currently have

Even if they are making the $8 minimum wage here in Florida (which I doubt, because why would the grove owners bother to hire illegals if they have to pay them minimum wage), they still couldn't afford even the most basic medical coverage. Which means I will be paying taxes to make up the difference. And yes, they will be getting the same medical insurance as I do if Kamala and Bernie have their way.

Oh and by the way, if the government takes over health insurance (i.e. single payer), most of the hospitals will be closing because they will not be able to afford to operate. So there's that too.

Smart policy can help drive prices down. Insurance companies and pharma make Billions. Just look at their advertising budgets. Apply some of those profits back towards lowering costs of care for the people and there is plenty of room to improve our system

The only way to drive insurance prices down is through free market competition. Let them sell across state lines just like auto insurance instead of giving each state only a few providers to choose from. Name one time the government ever did anything cheaper than the private sector.

And it's obvious you (and Crazy Bernie) have no clue how much it costs a pharmaceutical company to bring a new drug to market. They don't get paid for their failures. The only reason we have new medicines is because of the profit incentive. Take that away and "evil pharma" will stop investing in R&D and we will have no new cures.

 

[Slade3200]

Where are you wrong? Illegals working for $5 per hour... where is that happening? Also you have private insurance, that’s different than a public option for basic care which is what’s being proposed. So nobody claimed they would be getting the same insurance you currently have

Even if they are making the $8 minimum wage here in Florida (which I doubt, because why would the grove owners bother to hire illegals if they have to pay them minimum wage), they still couldn't afford even the most basic medical coverage. Which means I will be paying taxes to make up the difference. And yes, they will be getting the same medical insurance as I do if Kamala and Bernie have their way.

Oh and by the way, if the government takes over health insurance (i.e. single payer), most of the hospitals will be closing because they will not be able to afford to operate. So there's that too.

I hate to burst your bubble but if they get sick right now and go to the hospital they will get treated and we end up paying for it anyways. Isn’t it better have them working legally and paying into the system? And yes employers will pay under the table to avoid paying the employment taxes... another reason to get people and employers above board.

Hospital won’t close if we change our system. That’s a fear mongering talking point