So Israel

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We are also paying peoples pensions in ukraine. We subsidize businesses. etc
Ukraine should be a write off on our taxes as they are our dependent.

Don't care. Bleed Russia out.

 

[TNHarley]

No. I know you are a joke.

k

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Yeah, oh lookey Auntie, the Democrats found yet another lame reason to hate on Israel to show they still love on their "mostly peaceful" neighbors, Hamas and the Palestinians!

.....and then go back to promoting unlimited abortion on demand.

You know what they say -- if Democrats didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.

 

[ding]

Probably so we can maintain regional influence, which isn't necessary.

The answer is to prevent an even more costly military intervention.

 

[Anomalism]

The answer is to prevent an even more costly military intervention.

I don't agree that this imagined situation would happen if we stopped giving them annual charity.

 

[TNHarley]

and then go back to promoting unlimited abortion on demand.

You realize that is basically what Israel is doing, right?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

If Jews proselytized, we would not be having this discussion.

We would not be having it because there would be billions of Jews today, so they would not be a tiny minority so easy to pick on.

 

[ding]

Because we're almost 40 trillion dollars in debt. The vast majority of Russia's military is Cold War era hardware. They're not really a threat to us other than their nukes.

So what? Does that seem to be causing markets to crash? No.

Russia and China will always be a threat. Do you suppose that stopping aid to our Middle Eastern allies will solve our fiscal problems?

 

[TNHarley]

If Jews proselytized, we would not be having this discussion.

We would not be having it because there would be billions of Jews today, so they would not be a tiny minority so easy to pick on.

This thread isnt about jews.

 

[ding]

Im not ignoring it, i simply dont give a fck.
That reason could apply to every nation on earth. Do you want to send aid to every one of them?
Its a FORUM. Thats the point. If we all just sung kumbaya, nobody would stay.

Not every nation on earth is in a critical region for oil reserves. There's a reason Republican and Democrat presidents continue sending aid to our allies in the Middle East. It's called national security.

 

[Stryder50]

The reason people don't attack Israel is because we have a pact with them, not because of the extra money we send them.

Didn't seem to apply here;

October 7 attacks - Wikipedia​

 

[TNHarley]

Not every nation on earth is in a critical region for oil reserves. There's a reason Republican and Democrat presidents continue sending aid to our allies in the Middle East. It's called national security.

So, now we have massive goalposts. How convenient for you.

 

[ding]

We can remain their allies without sending billions in aid annually. A billion Muslims aren't going to destroy Israel overnight if we stop funding programs we can no longer afford.

Israel is a powerful and wealthy regional power. They are doing fine.

And yet we send aid to our allies in this region for our national security.

 

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I understand the justification and am challenging it. Israel won't stop being our allies, nor will they suddenly be conquered if we stop sending annual aid.

It's so that we have a say in the military standards they maintain for our self interest.

 

[Stryder50]

This thread isnt about jews.

Lying neo-Nazi !
Anytime Israel is the focus/topic it IS about Jews. (See your OP)

BTW, you need to repeat 8th grade grammar course. Appears you flunked it.

 

[ding]

The politicians that send massive amounts of money to Israel know full well that a big portion is going to come back their way.


The whole thing is a ******* racket.

Massive amounts?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

This thread isnt about jews.

Because none of them live in Israel. Got it.


I must have forgotten.

 

[ding]

So...

"If we don't give billions to Israel the terrorists are going to get take over and pull us into more wars." is your argument?

No. It's so the military presence of our allies in that region is sufficient enough to deter attacks so we don't have to intervene militarily which would cost considerably more.

 

[ding]

If you take the abortion thing away, how do you feel about Israel?

TN supports abortion. That's why what he is doing is gas lighting pro-lifers.

 

[Anomalism]

No. It's so the military presence of our allies in that region is sufficient enough to deter attacks so we don't have to intervene militarily which would cost considerably more.

I disagree that that is necessary.