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It's kind of the same thing.
those emojis slapping each other remind me of many posters hereWell yes!
It is said that the greatest deception Satan has ever pulled off is convincing people that he (it really) doesn't exist.Actually not – it’s you being un-Christian given the fact there’s no such thing as ‘satan.’
interesting. I call "him" - "it" alsoIt is said that the greatest deception Satan has ever pulled off is convincing people that he (it really) doesn't exist.
Angels have appeared as males, and Satan will appear as "the man of sin". However, in their spirit state they have no gender.interesting. I call "him" - "it" also
He doesn't get to be called what humans are called. Humans have a chance to avoid Hell. He doesn't.
Well, I suppose I always "knew" that, but was not thinking about it when i started calling that vile thing "it"Angels have appeared as males, and Satan will appear as "the man of sin". However, in their spirit state they have no gender.
If she did, she gave them poor advice. A rosary is prayer beads attached to rote praying. Jesus described rote praying as something not to do:The Virgin Mary appeared to 3 peasant children in Portugal in 1917 and told them to pray the rosary and to offer up their sufferings for souls on their way to Hell
i trust Mary more than youIf she did, she gave them poor advice. A rosary is prayer beads attached to rote praying. Jesus described rote praying as something not to do:
Matt 6:7-9 "And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words. Therefore do not be like them.
God wants to hear from your heart. He wants communication, not repetition.
Poor understanding of prayer is not poor advice. Non-Catholic Christians hear "Pray the rosary" and are immediately determined to find reason to excuse themselves.If she did, she gave them poor advice. A rosary is prayer beads attached to rote praying. Jesus described rote praying as something not to do:
Or you could just admit what you did was wrong and move on, rather than rationalizing you weren't.I was feeling guilty about this yesterday, but then I realized that I am not really speaking, when I say such things, to the human person but to the Satan behind him/her.
The prayer is the meditation. That is what you can't seem to understand. The rosary--or rote if that is what you must call it--is to keep outside thoughts from intruding. No one is saying one cannot meditate on the life of Jesus without the rosary, it is saying that it can be of great assist, especially in certain circumstances--overwhelming grief for instance, or stress.While I understand the reasoning behind it, it still fits the description of praying in rote.
Because we are the family of God. There is more to the Kingdom of God than self and God. "This is all about me" age needs to ripen into something greater.why ask a human to pray for you, when you can go directly to God with your prayers, in Jesus' name?
But, you did say that:No one is saying one cannot meditate on the life of Jesus without the rosary,
If you believe that quote ^, then the beads have done you a disservice by removing the actual opportunity to meditate on His word and replacing it with reciting someone else's words. I do understand, I just don't agree with the premise of mechanical recitation.Saying, "I'll never pray the Rosary!" is basically exclaiming "I'll never meditate on the life of Jesus or his promises."
Should I believe you or the Jesus who said, "I saw Satan fall as lightning from heaven"???Actually not – it’s you being un-Christian given the fact there’s no such thing as ‘satan.’
You are not wrongWhile I understand the reasoning behind it, it still fits the description of praying in rote. What I find problematic in your post is thinking that you have to pray the Rosary or you'll never meditate on the life of Jesus or His promises. Nothing could be farther from the truth. You can meditate on His life and promises all day long without reciting mechanical repetition.
It was never recommended by Jesus or His disciples. If it was important or necessary, they would have told us so.
But the thing that bothers me about the rosary is that it isn't at all about the Savior. It is to and about His mother.
Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death, Amen.
Hail who? Jesus gets an honorable mention. There is no mention of His promises, and while intercession in prayer is a good thing, why ask a human to pray for you, when you can go directly to God with your prayers, in Jesus' name?
In fact, if you want someone to intercede on your behalf:
Hebrews 7: 24 And because He is alive, He is able to intercede for us without end. He continues forever.
Romans 8: 34 Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised— who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us.
What I meant by that quote is that it is the same as SOMEONE (you, for example) saying that quote. I clearly believe in meditating on Jesus life and the effects it has had down through the ages. Are you telling me I shouldn't meditate on the Gospels? Are you telling me how I must (and must not) meditate on the Gospels?If you believe that quote ^, then the beads have done you a disservice by removing the actual opportunity to meditate on His word and replacing it with reciting someone else's words. I do understand, I just don't agree with the premise of mechanical recitation.
The Rosary is not "religious dogma". However, we may agree that anyone who finds it a distraction shouldn't use it in prayer and find prayer-meditation-contemplation that works best in drawing one close to God. For me, that is contemplation (not the rosary), but I have also known many with great devotion to God who have been blessed by rosary meditations.I just have an issue with religious dogma.
You have meditation confused with repetition. And it is even used as an absolution of sin. Say 5 hail Marys...What I meant by that quote is that it is the same as SOMEONE (you, for example) saying that quote. I clearly believe in meditating on Jesus life and the effects it has had down through the ages. Are you telling me I shouldn't meditate on the Gospels? Are you telling me how I must (and must not) meditate on the Gospels?
Dogma ~ the doctrine of belief in a religion or a political system. The literal meaning of dogma in ancient Greek was "something that seems true".The Rosary is not "religious dogma". However, we may agree that anyone who finds it a distraction shouldn't use it in prayer and find prayer-meditation-contemplation that works best in drawing one close to God. For me, that is contemplation (not the rosary), but I have also known many with great devotion to God who have been blessed by rosary meditations.
I believe it is wrong to sneer at the prayers of anyone. That's not to say we can't say, "In addition, have you ever tried....because that has brought blessings to me."