So High Speed Rail isn't needed?

[Crepitus]

Europeans pay more taxes than Americans and have less n money to spend

YOu're half right.

 

[Crepitus]

I suppose it could work out better if they built the tracks in underground tunnels where they wouldn't disturb the small town folks on the surface with noise pollution.

But that pushes the price way up, no?

High speed rail is more quiet than most large trucks.

 

[westwall]

Just in this thread or more broadly?

Because in this thread you just said Europeans took the train because they can't afford air travel which is not just wrong it's utterly ridiculous.

How is it ridiculous? Be specific.

 

[Crepitus]

How is it ridiculous? Be specific.

Because it is.

You've provided no evidence for me to refute, just offered a lame off the cuff opinion on something you know nothing about.

Wanna know why folks in Europe tend to fly less?

Because you can drive to 3 countries in one day, and cross even the largest end to end in a few hours by train.

It takes 4 days to get from New York to LA by car or train.

It takes 4 hours to get from London to Edinburg by train or car.

2 hours from London to Paris.

They fly less because everything is closer together.

 

[leftwinger]

China, Japan, Europe ….all have high speed rail

So what ignorant ****. Even if you had it and it doesn't go where you want (99.9%) what good is it?

Only CA TO KC to NYC would make sense. Then you rent a car. Disneyland to Disneyland you mental midget.

They're is Amtrack with 1million stops already doped up baboon.

 

[westwall]

Because it is.

You've provided no evidence for me to refute, just offered a lame off the cuff opinion on something you know nothing about.

Wanna know why folks in Europe tend to fly less?

Because you can drive to 3 countries in one day, and cross even the largest end to end in a few hours by train.

It takes 4 days to get from New York to LA by car or train.

It takes 4 hours to get from London to Edinburg by train or car.

2 hours from London to Paris.

They fly less because everything is closer together.

Ahhhhhh, so you admit that train travel in tightly packed, small countries is VASTLY different than train travel in a massive country.

Thanks!

That's been our point all along.

Nice to see you catch up to reality!

 

[ReinyDays]

High speed rail is more quiet than most large trucks.

Just a point of fact ... there's also low-speed rails involved, and these old Southern Pacific rail beds are in desperate need of repair and re-building ... PLUS getting rid of these killer level crossings ... work that needs to be done anyway ...

Maybe this has been brought up, but have they started that bore hole into LA? ...

Anyway ... my comment is about flying in Southern California long ago and then fairly recently ... this might sound strange but we're running out of room ... up there ... so the SF to LA run may well work out when folks can't find a seat on an airplane ... a lot of my friends down there are flat excited about this new Brightline West run to Vegas ... they're sick of the drive ... yeah, same friends with all the airplanes ...

 

[jknowgood]

It has been very successful for those building that boondoggle.

Nancy pelosi made millions off of it.

 

[Crepitus]

Ahhhhhh, so you admit that train travel in tightly packed, small countries is VASTLY different than train travel in a massive country.

Thanks!

That's been our point all along.

Nice to see you catch up to reality!

LMAO!! Look at you, backing up!!! That wasn't your point, Laddie. You said it air travel was too expensive for Europeans.

High speed rail could make LA from New York in under 12 hours, BTW

 

[candycorn]

The winning positing would be to focus on freight. Currently a container ship arrives with hundreds of containers. They are put on a truck one at a time and the driver moves them to the customers or a hub. In some cases, the freight arrives at Miami, LA or New York and needs to get to Chicago or Denver. Instead of relying on a truck to deliver one at a time that takes days to arrive, put the containers onto a bullet train that delivers them to a hub in Louisville, Memphis or maybe Denver or Amarillo. Just pick a city in the middle of the nation. The train is unloaded at a hub and loaded onto the trucks there. Truckers have a shorter drive since they're not coming from the coast. Essentially the same thing (Intermodal transportation) happens now except the trains are slow moving.

The problem this creates though is that you usually have more imports than exports. That isn't changing because of the tariffs obviously. So you end up with empty container cars with no containers to be taken back to the coast. What you do to remedy that is construct a passenger "container" that looks, feels, smells, etc... like a standard train car except you put that container on the container carrier instead of making it's own train car. Passengers from cities in the area take another train or car to the hub and can be out to the coast in a matter of hours.

 

[el midgetron]

“High speed rail” just sounds like gay porn.