So going forward can we expect prosecution to be a new political strategy?

[CrusaderFrank]

don't do the crime if you can't to the time. elected criminals should be treated like all other criminals.

Biden lied about classified documents and his ghost writer, correct?

 

[Man With A Plan]

I have forgotten more about how they work than you'll ever know.

Please explain how democrats ever get indicted if all of these juries are so tainted.

Betcha can't.

And yet you think Grand Juries seated in either deep red or deep blue districts are going to be impartial? Those Grand Juries are pulled randomly from a list of driver's licenses or voter roles for that district. If it's a deep red or deep blue district then it's almost guaranteed that the Grand Jury will be overwhelmingly red or blue.

Which Democrat are you speaking of?

 

[eagle1462010]

The left and the WEF have shown they will do anything to get their agenda. They will Lie, cheat, steal, and use government as a weapon to do so.

And our response is they can go fuck themselves. Its only a matter of time that we give them a taste of their own medicine in Red States.

We are not compatible to the INSANITY OF THE LEFT. They are a Cancer on this Nation.

 

[Care4all]

And yet you think Grand Juries seated in either deep red or deep blue districts are going to be impartial? Those Grand Juries are pulled randomly from a list of driver's licenses or voter roles for that district. If it's a deep red or deep blue district then it's almost guaranteed that the Grand Jury will be overwhelmingly red or blue.

Which Democrat are you speaking of?

Yes, a jury of ones peers is a jury picked from the place the alleged criminal chose to commit their crimes, is usually how it works.

NOT every voter is from only one party no matter how skewed a district may be.

And in a trial, only 1 juror is needed to vote not guilty to dismiss the charges via hung jury, and ALL 12 are needed to get a guilty verdict.

You also act as if jurors make up their minds by their politics and not by the evidence presented in court.... And I can assure you, as a previous juror a couple of times, that is NOT the case, at all!!!

 

[candycorn]

And yet you think Grand Juries seated in either deep red or deep blue districts are going to be impartial? Those Grand Juries are pulled randomly from a list of driver's licenses or voter roles for that district. If it's a deep red or deep blue district then it's almost guaranteed that the Grand Jury will be overwhelmingly red or blue.

It would seem, if you were actually a jury expert, you'd know it is "rolls", not "roles". LOL

Which Democrat are you speaking of?

Menendez for one. Blago for another. Anthony weiner's case is different but feel free to tell us about how the feds went easy on him.

Those are just the fedeal cases. Lots more where that came from at the state level.

 

[martybegan]

Yeah, that's the ticket! Surely, it is!

I tell you, Winston, that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes: only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party.

 

[San Souci]

The GOP won't return fire as they can't even impeach Biden.

Both parties want Trump dead.

And if all else fails ,the Dems will try assassination . Nature of the Beast. Dems are psychopathic killers.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Yes, a jury of ones peers is a jury picked from the place the alleged criminal chose to commit their crimes, is usually how it works.

NOT every voter is from only one party no matter how skewed a district may be.

And in a trial, only 1 juror is needed to vote not guilty to dismiss the charges via hung jury, and ALL 12 are needed to get a guilty verdict.

You also act as if jurors make up their minds by their politics and not by the evidence presented in court.... And I can assure you, as a previous juror a couple of times, that is NOT the case, at all!!!

You're as ignorant as to how Grand Juries work as the other idiot. First of all there aren't 12 jurors there are 16 to 23! More important you only need 12 jurors out of those 16 to 23 to find there is sufficient evidence against a defendant to bring charges.

And a "jury of one's peers" is NOT what Donald Trump is getting. He's being tried in those locales specifically so that he will get a jury of his political opponents...and a DA who is also politically biased!

 

[Man With A Plan]

It would seem, if you were actually a jury expert, you'd know it is "rolls", not "roles". LOL

Menendez for one. Blago for another. Anthony weiner's case is different but feel free to tell us about how the feds went easy on him.

Those are just the fedeal cases. Lots more where that came from at the state level.

I'm not sure where you're going with the Democrats you've referenced. Menendez, Blago and Weiner were all so blatantly guilty of long established laws I don't know how even a jury that was completely Democratic in make up wouldn't return a vote that sufficient guilt was proven.

What does that have to do with the lawfare being practiced by liberal DA's in the Trump cases?

 

[candycorn]

I'm not sure where you're going with the Democrats you've referenced. Menendez, Blago and Weiner were all so blatantly guilty of long established laws I don't know how even a jury that was completely Democratic in make up wouldn't return a vote that sufficient guilt was proven.

So all of that business about voter roles (as you put it) deciding who gets indicted was just nonsense then. Thanks for confirming what we all already knew.

What does that have to do with the lawfare being practiced by liberal DA's in the Trump cases?

Since there is no such practice in place, nothing.

 

[candycorn]

You're as ignorant as to how Grand Juries work as the other idiot. First of all there aren't 12 jurors there are 16 to 23! More important you only need 12 jurors out of those 16 to 23 to find there is sufficient evidence against a defendant to bring charges.

And a "jury of one's peers" is NOT what Donald Trump is getting. He's being tried in those locales specifically so that he will get a jury of his political opponents...and a DA who is also politically biased!

Poor Donald...always a victim.

 

[Votto]

Poor Donald...always a victim.

I dunno, can you be a victim and President at the same time?

Good question.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Sweeping statement there, Zinc! Did you want to explain WHY my point is irrelevant?

Sure thing.. BLM is not related to the J6 events in any way, and are merely used as a smokescreen.

If you remove the whataboutism, the J6/electoral fraud attempts, and the classified documents cases are not defensible.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Sure thing.. BLM is not related to the J6 events in any way, and are merely used as a smokescreen.

If you remove the whataboutism, the J6/electoral fraud attempts, and the classified documents cases are not defensible.

Since when is questioning election results a crime? Since when has a President not had the authority to have ANY document he chooses to have?

"...not defensible"? Not only ARE they defensible...they are being decided in a court of law as we speak.

 

[Man With A Plan]

So all of that business about voter roles (as you put it) deciding who gets indicted was just nonsense then. Thanks for confirming what we all already knew.

Since there is no such practice in place, nothing.

The DA's bringing charges against Trump aren't liberal partisans? Really Candy? It's rather pathetic that you can't admit the obvious!

 

[Man With A Plan]

Poor Donald...always a victim.

LOL...you on the left are trying SO hard to make Trump a victim with these politically motivated indictments, Candy and if you look at what's happened in the last few months...Trump is stronger than ever and Biden's polling numbers keep getting worse. Your lawfare is both undemocratic and unsuccessful!

 

[Care4all]

You're as ignorant as to how Grand Juries work as the other idiot. First of all there aren't 12 jurors there are 16 to 23! More important you only need 12 jurors out of those 16 to 23 to find there is sufficient evidence against a defendant to bring charges.

And a "jury of one's peers" is NOT what Donald Trump is getting. He's being tried in those locales specifically so that he will get a jury of his political opponents...and a DA who is also politically biased!

Yes, a jury of his peers usually comes from the locality the alleged crime was committed in and indicted in.

Both a jury if 12 and/or a grand jury of 20 or 30. BOTH juries are picked from the community of where the crime was committed and indicted....

You don't get to shop around for a jury of your choice, in most all cases it is where the crime happened, not some unrelated place....

There are exceptions, but it is a rarity.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Since when is questioning election results a crime?

Thats what the lawsuits were. Fake electors are fraud and indeed a crime.

Since when has a President not had the authority to have ANY document he chooses to have?

He was not the President. he was a mere citizen.

"...not defensible"? Not only ARE they defensible...they are being decided in a court of law as we speak.

Not yet but they will be. Why do you think he's continually trying to delay. he knows he will lose, badly.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Yes, a jury of his peers usually comes from the locality the alleged crime was committed in and indicted in.

Both a jury if 12 and/or a grand jury of 20 or 30. BOTH juries are picked from the community of where the crime was committed and indicted....

You don't get to shop around for a jury of your choice, in most all cases it is where the crime happened, not some unrelated place....

There are exceptions, but it is a rarity.

What a clueless statement, Care! Of course you get to shop around for a jury. You think it's a coincidence that these law suits are being brought by DA's in overwhelmingly liberal locales? New York City? Washington DC? Fulton County? The truth is that if they WEREN'T brought in those locales they wouldn't have been brought at all!

 

[Man With A Plan]

Thats what the lawsuits were. Fake electors are fraud and indeed a crime.


He was not the President. he was a mere citizen.


Not yet but they will be. Why do you think he's continually trying to delay. he knows he will lose, badly.

When he took the documents he was a citizen? He was the President of the United States! Unlike Joe Biden who stole classified documents when he was a Senator and Vice President...neither of which office gave Biden the authority to possess those classified documents!