Smoke and mirror

[BlackSand]

Negotiation requires communication. Zelenski appears too proud and too bent on retaliation and more war to recognize the importance of the "Mineral Rights" deal and what it would mean. Now, the US has no reason to get involved any further, and most of the deals under the last administration appear corrupt and not in our best interests.

I don't think anyone has forgotten what you say. There are consequences to every action.

God bless those innocent suffering under the evil of madmen.

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The 'mineral rights deal' ... Could have worked in ways that had nothing to do with the minerals or money involved.
It could have established a vested interest in Ukraine ... While creating an US Presence de facto.

That could make it more difficult and threatening ... For President Putin to advance any farther ...
Simply in the fact he would be stepping on us ... Not just Ukraine.

But we may never know how that may have worked out ... As long as President Zelensky wants to think he is charge ...
And doesn't understand what he needs from us ... What we are willing to give ...
And how we are going to give it to him.

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[Zavulon]

Fuck you. To don’t get any say in “whether” we keep Alaska. It’s not even open for discussion.

Russia is ok. Its people are (on balance) ok, too. Its leadership is shit and evil.

The balance of your post is mindless chatter.

Oh,my... If you want to gamble with taking Crimea and Novorussia, you should be ready to lose Alaska and California. Its that simple. If you want to keep them, you'd better don't do anything really stupid.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Europeans will do as they will, not as Black Sand says. That makes them giggle.

When that European air fleet of 120 attack aircraft reach Ukraine, everyone will be paying attention, particularly Putin and his puppet Trump.

No matter what, the American people will not ally with Russia. Ever.

 

[eagle1462010]

Trump's mismanaging of Inflation and Debt then and now and will in the future continue to bring us down.

You Woke Idiots have Room to talk. Inflation roared during the Drooling mans term. But all you said was. Its great.

Sooooo. SHAD UP

 

[eagle1462010]

Trump's mismanaging of Inflation and Debt then and now and will in the future continue to bring us down.

36 trillion and rising is bringing us down, But hey. USAID needs to give Hamas terrorists money.

 

[BackAgain]

Oh,my... If you want to gamble with taking Crimea and Novorussia, you should be ready to lose Alaska and California. Its that simple. If you want to keep them, you'd better don't do anything really stupid.

Hey, shithead. We aren’t taking Crimea. Your asshole boss, Putin, already did that. And I have no interest in Novorussia, either, you brainless pindick

By the way, Russia is a second rate nation. It can only threaten its weaker neighbors.

 

[eagle1462010]

Europeans will do as they will, not as Black Sand says. That makes them giggle.

When that European air fleet of 120 attack aircraft reach Ukraine, everyone will be paying attention, particularly Putin and his puppet Trump.

No matter what, the American people will not ally with Russia. Ever.

Wow. A WHOLE FLEET.. LMAO

 

[eagle1462010]

Oh,my... If you want to gamble with taking Crimea and Novorussia, you should be ready to lose Alaska and California. Its that simple. If you want to keep them, you'd better don't do anything really stupid.

Oh STFU IVAN. Just because we dont want to waste more money on Ukraine doesnt mean we fear your ass.

Conventionally we would beat you into the ground like a tent stake. BUT NUKES and probably China makes us stay out.

Why you guys always threaten it.

Want to end the world IVAN. Attack us and get it over with.

BTW. Your weapons been killing our people forever same as ours killing yours. So dont take us saying to hell with Ukraine as WE LOVE YOU MAN MOMENT.

 

[eagle1462010]

Hey, shithead. We aren’t taking Crimea. Your asshole boss, Putin, already did that. And I have no interest in Novorussia, either, you brainless pindick

By the way, Russia is a second rate nation. It can only threaten its weaker neighbors.

I got so scared when he threatened us I pissed myself.

Dudes Tough. SCARY.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Wow. A WHOLE FLEET.. LMAO

That with the very excellent ADA protects the homeland much better as well as extend the strike capability into Russia beyond Moscow and Petersburg.

He called you a 'pindick.' That's just humiliating as well being called that by a fellow pindick.

 

[eagle1462010]

That with the very excellent ADA protects the homeland much better as well as extend the strike capability into Russia beyond Moscow and Petersburg.

He called you a 'pindick.' That's just humiliating as well being called that by a fellow pindick.

Which will eventually lead to direct confluct and Nuclear War.

Do a damn deal and end this BS.

If Ivan decides he wants to take us on in the end. He knows how to find us.

 

[BackAgain]

That with the very excellent ADA protects the homeland much better as well as extend the strike capability into Russia beyond Moscow and Petersburg.

He called you a 'pindick.' That's just humiliating as well being called that by a fellow pindick.

Retarded horses can’t even figure out who said what to or about whom.

So much for Retarded Horses.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Which will eventually lead to direct confluct and Nuclear War.

Do a damn deal and end this BS.

If Ivan decides he wants to take us on in the end. He knows how to find us.

Putin has to surrender the eastern oblasts and make reparations.

 

[Zavulon]

Europeans will do as they will, not as Black Sand says. That makes them giggle.

When that European air fleet of 120 attack aircraft reach Ukraine, everyone will be paying attention, particularly Putin and his puppet Trump.

No matter what, the American people will not ally with Russia. Ever.

Ok. Lets play the game. Those 120 planes reached Ukraine. Russia nuked HMNB Clyde and Il-Longe bases, effectively eliminated 80% of British and French nuclear arsenals. The last British and French submarines attacked Moscow and St. Petersburg. Moscow ABD was successful, St. Petersburg not that much (city is almost destroyed, hundreds of thousands are killed). Russian counter-value retaliation was pretty limited - seven destroyed cities in the UK and seven destroyed cities in France. And then Russia suggest them unconditional surrender. They refused. Russia doesn't want to occupy western Europe, and suggest two tragical but distinguishable alternatives:
1) Russia just erase Western Europe from the face of Earth.
2) The USA occupy Western Europe, overthroning those governments (who actually started the war) with one limitation - they shouldn't use them against Russia.

Do you believe, that in those circumstances Americans should refuse to save hundreds of millions Europeans?

 

[eagle1462010]

Putin has to surrender the eastern oblasts and make reparations.

You live in Fairy Tale Land if you think hes gonna do that.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Nothing but truth.

Putin was KGB in East Germany when the Berlin Wall went down. Something you like to attribute as “Reagan won the Cold War”.

Putin never forgot, or forgave, the weak leadership in USSR by the time. He has lied, cheated, bought and murdered to establish himself.

Whom ever think he has another ambition than to restore that empire is dead wrong. Wars in Chechnya, Georgia and now Ukraine has nothing to do with anything else.

As for us (USA and EU), after the failed leadership of former USSR, USA and Europe is next on the list of what he despise.

The appeasement policy will not remedy this. Give him Ukraine - he wants Lithuania. Give him Lithuania - Latvia treats Russian minority badly. After Latvia he will acquire Estonia.

And. So. On.

Exactly everything else you read or get into the little filter bubble of yours is just propaganda and spinning.

This is THE truth.

Personally:
I don’t “stand with Ukraine”, I don’t even know them. I stand against Russia.

I don’t give a flying fuck about US slandering of Ukraine and their president, the fucking game show approach, gung-ho, one liners, ”MAGA”, who ”started the war”, what do they have on - or what’s in it - for Donald, or anything else.

I know my enemy. And he is a fucking monster.

You should know this. You used to know this.

No hard feelings, but if you can’t get your head around this simple truth, at least stop meddling around and trying to get something out of it. It’s tough enough as it is, without US playing for minerals, making “deals” and fucking around like it’s a TV show.

At the current rate of Conquest, Putin is scheduled to reconstitute the USSR by the year 2705!

 

[eagle1462010]

Ok. Lets play the game. Those 120 planes reached Ukraine. Russia nuked HMNB Clyde and Il-Longe bases, effectively eliminated 80% of British and French nuclear arsenals. The last British and French submarines attacked Moscow and St. Petersburg. Moscow ABD was successful, St. Petersburg not that much (city is almost destroyed, hundreds of thousands are killed). Russian counter-value retaliation was pretty limited - seven destroyed cities in the UK and seven destroyed cities in France. And then Russia suggest them unconditional surrender. They refused. Russia doesn't want to occupy western Europe, and suggest two tragical but distinguishable alternatives:
1) Russia just erase Western Europe from the face of Earth.
2) The USA occupy Western Europe, overthroning those governments (who actually started the war) with one limitation - they shouldn't use them against Russia.

Do you believe, that in those circumstances Americans should refuse to save hundreds of millions Europeans?

When Ivan gets nervous he threatens Nuclear War. Been hearing that shit since I was a boy.

 

[Zavulon]

Hey, shithead. We aren’t taking Crimea. Your asshole boss, Putin, already did that. And I have no interest in Novorussia, either, you brainless pindick

By the way, Russia is a second rate nation. It can only threaten its weaker neighbors.

We can threaten America as well. And, by the way, America is among out "weaker neighbours".

 

[eagle1462010]

We can threaten America as well. And, by the way, America is among out "weaker neighbours".

 

[BackAgain]

We can threaten America as well. And, by the way, America is among out "weaker neighbours".

lol.

You’re a moron.