Slut Or Not??

[Cammmpbell]

Democrats love sex and brag about it
.Republicans love sex and lie about it

YOU'VE never had any, so you dream about it.

I played dance band piano for thirty years with at least 10 groups and laid over 300 young women....most of them fairly attractive. I might also add that I'm married to my second wife and have eight grandchildren and one great grandchild.

LMAO!!!!!

 

[Unkotare]

Democrats love sex and brag about it
.Republicans love sex and lie about it

YOU'VE never had any, so you dream about it.

I played dance band piano for thirty years with at least 10 groups and laid over 300 young women....most of them fairly attractive. I might also add that I'm married to my second wife and have eight grandchildren and one great grandchild.

LMAO!!!!!

I already told you, no one believes your little 'persona,' and its backstory. You are a pathetic teenage virgin in your mommy's basement filling this forum with spam and lies.

 

[High_Gravity]

Of course! Sandra Fluke needs a real job.

While I personally can't see anything wrong with legalizing prostitution, I can't see any major benefit either. If prostitution were not only legal, but considered like any other normal legal business, I would not want to see men and women looking for work be penalized for turning down work in a whorehouse either. Can't you see some whore trade school popping up and advertising on television!

Will whores be allowed to discriminate? Suppose a whore doesn't want to engage in acts with the same sex. Are they punished? Will their license be revoked? What's to be done with street wakers who don't want to keep books and pay taxes? Now they are picked up for solicitation, kept until morning and let go. After licensing they could be prosecuted for tax evasion. What about the casual hooker? The woman who just wants to pay the rent, she ran short, turning a few tricks once in a while bridges the gap. Does SHE need a license for part time whoring? Will a licensed whore who teaches kindergarten during the day keep her job? How about minors? Will a 15 year old boy with Daddy's credit card get to go to a legal brothel or is he still limited to the next door neighbor.

This is one of those things that looks good on paper but doesn't work as well in real life. The best that can be said is that there will be legal brothels AND all the problems with illegal prostitiution that we have now.

Well I could think of a few benefits of legalizing the business, for starters we will take the business away from the pimps and gangsters on the street, and be able to get these girls cleaned up, alot of the street walkers are beaten regularly and get hooked on drugs by their pimp, as a way to keep power over her. Keep in mind Germany had legalized prostitution and they make billions off of it, look at how big our country is, thats alot of revenue, besides if you think prostitution is disgusting and perverted, just don't frequent the establishments, plaine and simple, besides making something illegal doesn't take it away anyways.

Grav,in Perth and Western Australia in general we have containment of the prostitution industry........health checks and no recriminations towards the women or to a small degree men.

Like all of us all prostitutes must pay tax.

This regulation and system takes away any stigma for this type of work.......which has always been a fact of life anyway.

The PLUSES are that there are NO PIMPS,getting the women to work long ******* hours (excuse the pun)....and more importantly prevents the women reliant on drugs and dependency.

The Police do a fine job but with a velvet glove as it were.............We are a sophisticated and well balanced society with absolutely no hang up regarding the sex industry......which moreover gives relief to the male population that need these services in all there guises.

The chuch for example don't encourage it,but don't condone it either...they are pragmatic on this issue...rapes and sexual assults are very,very low indeed. Neat to talk to you Grav,and nice to see you have like me a balanced view on this subject.

For Limbog to make such utterances here,he would have been treated with contempt and arrested......an idiot like him would have been slandering our women,who no matter what occupation they derive an income from are OUR women and ALL are held in high esteem.......what the fucher doesn't realise is,that loads of women have used sex in all its forms at some period and for many reasons during or at some stage of the lives.

The GUY IS A MINNOW........and a ******* IGNORANT ONE....just saying.....shit we here just don't think like that.......and for the likes of Mondo Si to defend such a creature just shows how Limbo,Mondo and the other moralistico's how really DEBASTED they are.

As you know I'm theliq and I can and DO KICK DEBASED ASS BIGTIME.

That all sounds good to me, wouldn't mind seeing that kind of system here.

 

[Gadawg73]

There was no court case here. All this amounted to was a publicity stunt.
And the religous right wing kooks wanted just as much or more publicity so they entered into the fray as well.
Love ya there but if you do not know that everyone of the Republicans entered into this fray for political gain only then you are as naive as they were on this one.
Fox, in the real world of politics and the law you have to know when and how to pick your battles.
This was no First Amendment battle. This was a side show publicity stunt set up by the Democrats. The Republicans bit and fought a pissin contest battle with blanks in their guns.
No offense. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the non religous or anti religous. This was ALL ABOUT POLITICS.

When the State presumes to dictate to a religious group that they MUST go against their religious convictions, that is clearly both a violation of the establishment clause and the free exercise clause. It was a no brainer for anybody, religious or not, and no court in the land that respected any part of Constitution would have upheld that.
And when the Administration realized they couldn't win on that one, they tried to put the burden on the insurance companies. That didn't fly either because those of us who defend the First Amendment also saw that the same issues applied and it was still government overstepping its authority to require a private industry to sell a specific product. That is the whole issue that will be debated by SCOTUS re Obamacare. And when the Administration saw they weren't scoring any points there either. . . .

So they recruit Fluke, a brilliant diversionary tactic to distract the gullible and create a new and more sellable thesis.

And I don't care who does the speaking, if they are on the right side of the issue, their motives are their own business.
Right is right and wrong is wrong regardless of the motives for doing either.

Religious groups don't have convictions, institutions don't have convictions. AND religions don't charge tuition.

Individuals have convictions. The constitution is there to protect the rights of the individual and Obama has done an admirable job of protecting those rights for all Americans re religion and all other issues. There is no conflict between forcing prescription plans to acknowledge equal rights for women and their health care needs. If you don't believe in birth control, don't take it. DUH. Get out of people's bedrooms, conservatives, and work on saving your own souls........

I agree with you and that is well said.
Except individuals do not have the right to force their birth control "needs" on their employer's insurance carrier.
Where in the law is that one?

 

[Katzndogz]

Well I could think of a few benefits of legalizing the business, for starters we will take the business away from the pimps and gangsters on the street, and be able to get these girls cleaned up, alot of the street walkers are beaten regularly and get hooked on drugs by their pimp, as a way to keep power over her. Keep in mind Germany had legalized prostitution and they make billions off of it, look at how big our country is, thats alot of revenue, besides if you think prostitution is disgusting and perverted, just don't frequent the establishments, plaine and simple, besides making something illegal doesn't take it away anyways.

Grav,in Perth and Western Australia in general we have containment of the prostitution industry........health checks and no recriminations towards the women or to a small degree men.

Like all of us all prostitutes must pay tax.

This regulation and system takes away any stigma for this type of work.......which has always been a fact of life anyway.

The PLUSES are that there are NO PIMPS,getting the women to work long ******* hours (excuse the pun)....and more importantly prevents the women reliant on drugs and dependency.

The Police do a fine job but with a velvet glove as it were.............We are a sophisticated and well balanced society with absolutely no hang up regarding the sex industry......which moreover gives relief to the male population that need these services in all there guises.

The chuch for example don't encourage it,but don't condone it either...they are pragmatic on this issue...rapes and sexual assults are very,very low indeed. Neat to talk to you Grav,and nice to see you have like me a balanced view on this subject.

For Limbog to make such utterances here,he would have been treated with contempt and arrested......an idiot like him would have been slandering our women,who no matter what occupation they derive an income from are OUR women and ALL are held in high esteem.......what the fucher doesn't realise is,that loads of women have used sex in all its forms at some period and for many reasons during or at some stage of the lives.

The GUY IS A MINNOW........and a ******* IGNORANT ONE....just saying.....shit we here just don't think like that.......and for the likes of Mondo Si to defend such a creature just shows how Limbo,Mondo and the other moralistico's how really DEBASTED they are.

As you know I'm theliq and I can and DO KICK DEBASED ASS BIGTIME.

That all sounds good to me, wouldn't mind seeing that kind of system here.

It amazes me that one little line can show you just how fake the whole premise is. Legalized prostitution does not affect rape or assault at all. Both are crimes of violence where the perpetrator gets gratification from the violence of the act, not the act itself. However, since the subject came up.

Legal Prostitution in Australia a "Failure" | Change.org News

Ten years ago, Australia made a risky policy move it thought would help protect women and children: it legalized prostitution. Today, only 10% of the prostitution industry operates in Australia's legal brothels. The other 90% takes place in underground, illegal sex markets thick with forced prostitution and human trafficking victims.

The University of Queensland Working Group on Human Trafficking recently released a report stating that the prostitution laws in Australia had failed. Since 1999, women in Australia have had the option of working legally in licensed brothels or on their own. The hope was that women with an entrepreneurial spirit and a passion for commercial sex would set up their own businesses, and make everything safe, legal, and regulated. That hasn't happened.

Be sure and read the rest.

Then remember that I told you that the BEST possible outcome is that there would be legal prostitutes and illegal prostitutes with protections for none.

 

[High_Gravity]

Grav,in Perth and Western Australia in general we have containment of the prostitution industry........health checks and no recriminations towards the women or to a small degree men.

Like all of us all prostitutes must pay tax.

This regulation and system takes away any stigma for this type of work.......which has always been a fact of life anyway.

The PLUSES are that there are NO PIMPS,getting the women to work long ******* hours (excuse the pun)....and more importantly prevents the women reliant on drugs and dependency.

The Police do a fine job but with a velvet glove as it were.............We are a sophisticated and well balanced society with absolutely no hang up regarding the sex industry......which moreover gives relief to the male population that need these services in all there guises.

The chuch for example don't encourage it,but don't condone it either...they are pragmatic on this issue...rapes and sexual assults are very,very low indeed. Neat to talk to you Grav,and nice to see you have like me a balanced view on this subject.

For Limbog to make such utterances here,he would have been treated with contempt and arrested......an idiot like him would have been slandering our women,who no matter what occupation they derive an income from are OUR women and ALL are held in high esteem.......what the fucher doesn't realise is,that loads of women have used sex in all its forms at some period and for many reasons during or at some stage of the lives.

The GUY IS A MINNOW........and a ******* IGNORANT ONE....just saying.....shit we here just don't think like that.......and for the likes of Mondo Si to defend such a creature just shows how Limbo,Mondo and the other moralistico's how really DEBASTED they are.

As you know I'm theliq and I can and DO KICK DEBASED ASS BIGTIME.

That all sounds good to me, wouldn't mind seeing that kind of system here.

It amazes me that one little line can show you just how fake the whole premise is. Legalized prostitution does not affect rape or assault at all. Both are crimes of violence where the perpetrator gets gratification from the violence of the act, not the act itself. However, since the subject came up.

Legal Prostitution in Australia a "Failure" | Change.org News

Ten years ago, Australia made a risky policy move it thought would help protect women and children: it legalized prostitution. Today, only 10% of the prostitution industry operates in Australia's legal brothels. The other 90% takes place in underground, illegal sex markets thick with forced prostitution and human trafficking victims.

The University of Queensland Working Group on Human Trafficking recently released a report stating that the prostitution laws in Australia had failed. Since 1999, women in Australia have had the option of working legally in licensed brothels or on their own. The hope was that women with an entrepreneurial spirit and a passion for commercial sex would set up their own businesses, and make everything safe, legal, and regulated. That hasn't happened.

Be sure and read the rest.

Then remember that I told you that the BEST possible outcome is that there would be legal prostitutes and illegal prostitutes with protections for none.

I didn't say legalizing prostitution would cut down on rape or assault though, what I did say was that it would bring in some extra revenue and help take alot of these women off the street and take power away from the pimps and gangsters, although I am sure they won't stop pimping completely, just like some people still make illegal booze and moonshine.

 

[Katzndogz]

It is amusing.

For many years Los Angeles County has had a very active porn industry operating legally since porn is not technically prostitution, there is no exchange of money. Making TONS of money for these porn stars was apparently not enough. STDs including AIDS and HIV were killers. The porn stars took the entire matter to the County Board of Supervisors to demand a law that would force the industry to require that the male participants wear condoms. Oh happy day, it passed. Overnight the porn industry became underground or just left. It went from quasi legal, to totally illegal. But not totally gone, just gone out of the County.

Legal prostitution can work, like it works in Nevada. There can be a few high end brothels with hand picked women for those willing to pay a premium for the services. The bulk of the industry will remain just as it is.

 

[Katzndogz]

That all sounds good to me, wouldn't mind seeing that kind of system here.

It amazes me that one little line can show you just how fake the whole premise is. Legalized prostitution does not affect rape or assault at all. Both are crimes of violence where the perpetrator gets gratification from the violence of the act, not the act itself. However, since the subject came up.

Legal Prostitution in Australia a "Failure" | Change.org News

Ten years ago, Australia made a risky policy move it thought would help protect women and children: it legalized prostitution. Today, only 10% of the prostitution industry operates in Australia's legal brothels. The other 90% takes place in underground, illegal sex markets thick with forced prostitution and human trafficking victims.

The University of Queensland Working Group on Human Trafficking recently released a report stating that the prostitution laws in Australia had failed. Since 1999, women in Australia have had the option of working legally in licensed brothels or on their own. The hope was that women with an entrepreneurial spirit and a passion for commercial sex would set up their own businesses, and make everything safe, legal, and regulated. That hasn't happened.

Be sure and read the rest.

Then remember that I told you that the BEST possible outcome is that there would be legal prostitutes and illegal prostitutes with protections for none.

I didn't say legalizing prostitution would cut down on rape or assault though, what I did say was that it would bring in some extra revenue and help take alot of these women off the street and take power away from the pimps and gangsters, although I am sure they won't stop pimping completely, just like some people still make illegal booze and moonshine.

You didn't. The prevaricator attempting to show how beneficial it was for Australia did. That wasn't true, neither is the rest of what he had to say.

As a person of intelligence, you can plainly see that legalized prostitution doesn't take the power from pimps and gangsters. As to whether it would bring increased revenue, whether the increase in revenue would be worth the increased costs of enforcement is debatable. Right now, whores break ONE law, solicitation which is seldom even prosecuted. Legalize prostitution and they will be breaking a whole host of laws, including some federal laws. Tax evasion, operating as an unlicensed prostitute, failure to maintain health records, on and on and on.

Right now the social climate is to strike down all laws that might possibly have some tenuous connection to morality without regard as to whether the ultimate result would be good or bad. I have no moral objection to prostitution. It is still horrifying that so many people have a "Pretty Woman" syndrome and think that all whores are Julia Roberts.

 

[High_Gravity]

It is amusing.

For many years Los Angeles County has had a very active porn industry operating legally since porn is not technically prostitution, there is no exchange of money. Making TONS of money for these porn stars was apparently not enough. STDs including AIDS and HIV were killers. The porn stars took the entire matter to the County Board of Supervisors to demand a law that would force the industry to require that the male participants wear condoms. Oh happy day, it passed. Overnight the porn industry became underground or just left. It went from quasi legal, to totally illegal. But not totally gone, just gone out of the County.

Legal prostitution can work, like it works in Nevada. There can be a few high end brothels with hand picked women for those willing to pay a premium for the services. The bulk of the industry will remain just as it is.

If prostitution becomes legal across the board those high end bunny ranches in Nevada will have to lower their prices, because right now it is expensive to go those places, the only people that can are those with alot of cash.

 

[Katzndogz]

It is amusing.

For many years Los Angeles County has had a very active porn industry operating legally since porn is not technically prostitution, there is no exchange of money. Making TONS of money for these porn stars was apparently not enough. STDs including AIDS and HIV were killers. The porn stars took the entire matter to the County Board of Supervisors to demand a law that would force the industry to require that the male participants wear condoms. Oh happy day, it passed. Overnight the porn industry became underground or just left. It went from quasi legal, to totally illegal. But not totally gone, just gone out of the County.

Legal prostitution can work, like it works in Nevada. There can be a few high end brothels with hand picked women for those willing to pay a premium for the services. The bulk of the industry will remain just as it is.

If prostitution becomes legal across the board those high end bunny ranches in Nevada will have to lower their prices, because right now it is expensive to go those places, the only people that can are those with alot of cash.

That's not going to change! Look at it this way. Has the number of street whores influenced the price, in any way, of high end call girls? If you don't want to pay the asking price, there are plenty of places to go. It's like saying the more movie theaters there are, the less stage shows will charge.

 

[Care4all]

When the State presumes to dictate to a religious group that they MUST go against their religious convictions, that is clearly both a violation of the establishment clause and the free exercise clause. It was a no brainer for anybody, religious or not, and no court in the land that respected any part of Constitution would have upheld that.
And when the Administration realized they couldn't win on that one, they tried to put the burden on the insurance companies. That didn't fly either because those of us who defend the First Amendment also saw that the same issues applied and it was still government overstepping its authority to require a private industry to sell a specific product. That is the whole issue that will be debated by SCOTUS re Obamacare. And when the Administration saw they weren't scoring any points there either. . . .

So they recruit Fluke, a brilliant diversionary tactic to distract the gullible and create a new and more sellable thesis.

And I don't care who does the speaking, if they are on the right side of the issue, their motives are their own business.
Right is right and wrong is wrong regardless of the motives for doing either.

Religious groups don't have convictions, institutions don't have convictions. AND religions don't charge tuition.

Individuals have convictions. The constitution is there to protect the rights of the individual and Obama has done an admirable job of protecting those rights for all Americans re religion and all other issues. There is no conflict between forcing prescription plans to acknowledge equal rights for women and their health care needs. If you don't believe in birth control, don't take it. DUH. Get out of people's bedrooms, conservatives, and work on saving your own souls........

I agree with you and that is well said.
Except individuals do not have the right to force their birth control "needs" on their employer's insurance carrier.
Where in the law is that one?

so, no matter what, you are against any regulation of Health Care Insurance policies....this has nothing to do with "religion"? So you do not think that insurance should be regulated at all regarding the insurance companies having to cover mammograms, or gynecology exams or prostate exams starting at certain ages etc etc etc??? You think they can package any kind of plan they want and call it "insurance" even if it covers NOTHING?

Well, if that is what you are saying....I disagree with you.

 

[High_Gravity]

It is amusing.

For many years Los Angeles County has had a very active porn industry operating legally since porn is not technically prostitution, there is no exchange of money. Making TONS of money for these porn stars was apparently not enough. STDs including AIDS and HIV were killers. The porn stars took the entire matter to the County Board of Supervisors to demand a law that would force the industry to require that the male participants wear condoms. Oh happy day, it passed. Overnight the porn industry became underground or just left. It went from quasi legal, to totally illegal. But not totally gone, just gone out of the County.

Legal prostitution can work, like it works in Nevada. There can be a few high end brothels with hand picked women for those willing to pay a premium for the services. The bulk of the industry will remain just as it is.

If prostitution becomes legal across the board those high end bunny ranches in Nevada will have to lower their prices, because right now it is expensive to go those places, the only people that can are those with alot of cash.

That's not going to change! Look at it this way. Has the number of street whores influenced the price, in any way, of high end call girls? If you don't want to pay the asking price, there are plenty of places to go. It's like saying the more movie theaters there are, the less stage shows will charge.

Well the Bunny Ranch can charge those outrageous prices because they are one of only legal brothels in the US, if the business was legal and more legal places like the Ranch started popping up everywhere, they would have to lower their prices because you wouldn't have as many people flying out there to get laid and for all those freaky bachelor parties they have.

 

[Katzndogz]

If prostitution becomes legal across the board those high end bunny ranches in Nevada will have to lower their prices, because right now it is expensive to go those places, the only people that can are those with alot of cash.

That's not going to change! Look at it this way. Has the number of street whores influenced the price, in any way, of high end call girls? If you don't want to pay the asking price, there are plenty of places to go. It's like saying the more movie theaters there are, the less stage shows will charge.

Well the Bunny Ranch can charge those outrageous prices because they are one of only legal brothels in the US, if the business was legal and more legal places like the Ranch started popping up everywhere, they would have to lower their prices because you wouldn't have as many people flying out there to get laid and for all those freaky bachelor parties they have.

Oh please! You can't be that naive! If you can't get a high end whore for your bachelor party just go to a fairly decent hotel and ask the concierge! Most bartenders in upscale bars know who they are too. Look in the phone book under escort services or massage services. When I graduated law school we hired one for our favorite professor. We hired her right out of the yellow pages! As a bonus, the whole class got the strip show. She didn't even charge extra.

Legalized prostitution won't solve any problems, not even by making nationwide bachelor parties more affordable. Should it be legal? I don't much care, saying it should be legal because it will have some benefit is just false pretenses.

 

[Big Fitz]

Poor analogy.

They're still making condoms.

And there's no fire risk when using a condom.

There is if you do it right.

Recommend you use more lube.

 

[Big Fitz]

33 advertisers has dropped rush.

The majority is Behind Sandra.



OP is a slut, tbqh. (Using Rush's logic, of course)

Democrats love sex and brag about it
.Republicans love sex and lie about it

Liberals want other people to pay for their fornication.
Conservatives don't demand others pay for theirs.

If you are going to slut out, finding someone to pay for your birth control is easy. It's called planned parenthood, or of course, you could take personal responsibility for your actions and pay for it yourself. There is no reason to try and force an organization who rebukes your desire for birth control and immorality to pay for it.

...Unless you're a fascist.

 

[Uncensored2008]

so, no matter what, you are against any regulation of Health Care Insurance policies....this has nothing to do with "religion"? So you do not think that insurance should be regulated at all regarding the insurance companies having to cover mammograms, or gynecology exams or prostate exams starting at certain ages etc etc etc??? You think they can package any kind of plan they want and call it "insurance" even if it covers NOTHING?

Well, if that is what you are saying....I disagree with you.

Let's say you hire Pedro to mow your lawn. Pedro mows and sweeps up for $10 a week.

A few months later, Pedro sends you a bill for $65 for the week. You go to Pedro and ask him why. He explains that President Obama decided that all gardening MUST include edging, trimming, weed abatement, soil treatments, manicuring of plants and power washing the windows. Of course Pedro has a price book and is going to charge you for all the extra services/

It's cool though, because Obama knows best. It's not up to you to purchase the services you want and are willing to pay for, Obama makes that decision for you. Your job is not to complain or EVER question, and to pay lots of taxes.

 

[High_Gravity]

That's not going to change! Look at it this way. Has the number of street whores influenced the price, in any way, of high end call girls? If you don't want to pay the asking price, there are plenty of places to go. It's like saying the more movie theaters there are, the less stage shows will charge.

Well the Bunny Ranch can charge those outrageous prices because they are one of only legal brothels in the US, if the business was legal and more legal places like the Ranch started popping up everywhere, they would have to lower their prices because you wouldn't have as many people flying out there to get laid and for all those freaky bachelor parties they have.

Oh please! You can't be that naive! If you can't get a high end whore for your bachelor party just go to a fairly decent hotel and ask the concierge! Most bartenders in upscale bars know who they are too. Look in the phone book under escort services or massage services. When I graduated law school we hired one for our favorite professor. We hired her right out of the yellow pages! As a bonus, the whole class got the strip show. She didn't even charge extra.

Legalized prostitution won't solve any problems, not even by making nationwide bachelor parties more affordable. Should it be legal? I don't much care, saying it should be legal because it will have some benefit is just false pretenses.

You hired an escort for your Professor?

 

[amrchaos]

(sarcasm)

That is why I say women should not have rights--they become sluts overnight!!

Don't speak! The Whores know who they are!

 

[Big Fitz]

Democrats love sex and brag about it
.Republicans love sex and lie about it

YOU'VE never had any, so you dream about it.

I played dance band piano for thirty years with at least 10 groups and laid over 300 young women....most of them fairly attractive. I might also add that I'm married to my second wife and have eight grandchildren and one great grandchild.

LMAO!!!!!

Laid more pipe in this town that Wabasha Plumbing, eh? So you're a self admitted male slut. I'm assuming male because you bragged about women, but you are a leftist, so what do I know?

Well, that's as much shit as I'm going to give, Grampa Gustofson.

 

[Katzndogz]

Well the Bunny Ranch can charge those outrageous prices because they are one of only legal brothels in the US, if the business was legal and more legal places like the Ranch started popping up everywhere, they would have to lower their prices because you wouldn't have as many people flying out there to get laid and for all those freaky bachelor parties they have.

Oh please! You can't be that naive! If you can't get a high end whore for your bachelor party just go to a fairly decent hotel and ask the concierge! Most bartenders in upscale bars know who they are too. Look in the phone book under escort services or massage services. When I graduated law school we hired one for our favorite professor. We hired her right out of the yellow pages! As a bonus, the whole class got the strip show. She didn't even charge extra.

Legalized prostitution won't solve any problems, not even by making nationwide bachelor parties more affordable. Should it be legal? I don't much care, saying it should be legal because it will have some benefit is just false pretenses.

You hired an escort for your Professor?

Yes we did. We all chipped in. Isn't that just the coolest thing you ever heard of?