Slippery Slopes

[ScreamingEagle]

I'm gonna need a bit more of a connection then that, sorry.

You said:

The N bomb has two different meanings, one if you're black, and one if you're white. It's the same in every race. You can't use epithets to another group, but they will always be used freely within that group, usually out of sarcasm.

If you can arbitrarily delineate a different meaning of something said between black and white people, then why not delineate between what is in the minds of different people as well?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Not American war. War in general. You can't eliminate corruptive forces from the world. That's my point, and if you spend all your time trying to, you'll just keep finding more corruptive forces. If you just teach people how to act decent and ignore corruptive forces, it doesn't matter what form the corruption takes, you'll have it beat.

OK, war in general. So what you are saying is we should NOT fight corruption in all of its various forms?

Do you really think that just sticking your head in the sand and ignoring corrupting forces is the way to handle things? Please explain how that works in the real world.

 

[speederdoc]

Why not just call them blacks and respect the fact that they don't want to be called *******?

Quite a few of them don't like being called "blacks" either.

Or Negroes, or "colored" (despite the continued presence and historical importance of the United Negro College Fund and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People).

Only the PC-concocted terms "African-American" or "people of color" will do for these folks.

 

[Hagbard Celine]

If you can arbitrarily delineate a different meaning of something said between black and white people, then why not delineate between what is in the minds of different people as well?

This isn't an arbitrary delineation. Blacks are perfectly righteous in their expectation that whites shouldn't use the word ******.

 

[Hagbard Celine]

Alright, from now on, I want to be referred to as a "EuroAmerican."

 

[ScreamingEagle]

This isn't an arbitrary delineation. Blacks are perfectly righteous in their expectation that whites shouldn't use the word ******.

You are assuming that just because a white man uses the word ****** it is slander while if a black man uses the word it is not. How do you know the difference? Can you read the individual minds?

 

[The ClayTaurus]

OK, war in general. So what you are saying is we should NOT fight corruption in all of its various forms?

Do you really think that just sticking your head in the sand and ignoring corrupting forces is the way to handle things? Please explain how that works in the real world.

Ignore was a poor choice of words on my part. There will always be corruption in the world, and the focus should be on teaching children the difference between watching porn and thinking that sex is meaningless.

Our difference in opinion, I think, is that you think porn does more harm then hatespeech, I think hatespeech does more harm then porn. I say let 'em both be legal or illegal.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Alright, from now on, I want to be referred to as a "EuroAmerican."

...And if you even look at me funny, I know you are thinking and expressing bad things about me, so I want you to be brought up on "hatecrime" charges!!!

:whip3:

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Quite a few of them don't like being called "blacks" either.

Or Negroes, or "colored" (despite the continued presence and historical importance of the United Negro College Fund and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People).

Only the PC-concocted terms "African-American" or "people of color" will do for these folks.

What's the problem with respecting someone's wishes on how to refer to them?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Ignore was a poor choice of words on my part. There will always be corruption in the world, and the focus should be on teaching children the difference between watching porn and thinking that sex is meaningless.

Our difference in opinion, I think, is that you think porn does more harm then hatespeech, I think hatespeech does more harm then porn. I say let 'em both be legal or illegal.

Well, OK, we both agree that corruption in any form is bad for our children. So far, so good.

Given the choice, I also think at some point you would agree that it is better to make porn and hatespeech illegal because the nature of society affects our children directly and I am sure you don't want your children to have to grow up and live in a degenerate and mind-numbing society.

 

[speederdoc]

What's the problem with respecting someone's wishes on how to refer to them?

I didn't say there was a problem. I just mentioned that some blacks might not like being referred to as such.

I do despise PC, prissy self-important monikers, and hyphenated names in general, however, so maybe the problem is mine in this new society of ours with so many potentially offensive verbal landmines to tiptoe around.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

I didn't say there was a problem. I just mentioned that some blacks might not like being referred to as such.

I do despise PC, prissy self-important monikers, and hyphenated names in general, however, so maybe the problem is mine in this new society of ours with so many potentially offensive verbal landmines to tiptoe around.

If the black community asks to be called African-American, or perhaps asks NOT to be called the n bomb, why not be courteous and respect that wish?

 

[GotZoom]

If the black community asks to be called African-American, or perhaps asks NOT to be called the n bomb, why not be courteous and respect that wish?

Perhaps "Freedom of Speech" or maybe I would want them to be courteous and respect my wish that I be allowed to use that word.

Or....that they don't use that word either....I find it very offensive when I hear that word, regardless of who says it.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Well, OK, we both agree that corruption in any form is bad for our children. So far, so good.

Given the choice, I also think at some point you would agree that it is better to make porn and hatespeech illegal because the nature of society affects our children directly and I am sure you don't want your children to have to grow up and live in a degenerate and mind-numbing society.

If we can agree that they should both be legal or illegal, but at least in the same boat, I'm happy to call things to a close. If you want porn banned because it leads to degenerative behaviour, I would think logically you would want hatespeech banned.

 

[speederdoc]

If the black community asks to be called African-American, or perhaps asks NOT to be called the n bomb, why not be courteous and respect that wish?

Who is the "black community?" Jesse Jackson? Al Sharpton? Kwame Mfume? Quanell X? The leader of the NAACP or UNCF? Or the black gentleman who is too busy supporting his family to really give a shit what PC terms his "community" wants you to call him?

If everyone in the "black community" concurred on what they wanted to be called, then it would make it a lot easier to play their little game. I certainly respect the rights of each individual, and if they have a nomenclature preference within reason, I will be happy to accomodate them.

As GotZoom mentioned, I don't like hearing them throw the n word around so nonchalantly either.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Perhaps "Freedom of Speech" or maybe I would want them to be courteous and respect my wish that I be allowed to use that word.

Or....that they don't use that word either....I find it very offensive when I hear that word, regardless of who says it.

Freedom of speech and courtesy aren't one in the same. If someone asked that you not call her "fat bitch" all the time, it would be courteous of you to do so, no? You'd be protected by free speech to do it, but it wouldn't be courteous and respecting her wishes.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

I certainly respect the rights of each individual, and if they have a nomenclature preference within reason, I will be happy to accomodate them.

Fair enough, and good to hear. Your other point is well stated.

 

[GotZoom]

Freedom of speech and courtesy aren't one in the same. If someone asked that you not call her "fat bitch" all the time, it would be courteous of you to do so, no? You'd be protected by free speech to do it, but it wouldn't be courteous and respecting her wishes.

Provided she and her friends don't run around calling each other "fat bitch" - no problem.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

If we can agree that they should both be legal or illegal, but at least in the same boat, I'm happy to call things to a close. If you want porn banned because it leads to degenerative behaviour, I would think logically you would want hatespeech banned.

I think "hatespeech" is already banned - as in slander and libel laws. However, as I already mentioned, the Far Left is taking "hatespeech" to new heights for their own nefarious reasons.

Nig, ****, mick, chink, ****, dago, polack......there's been a nasty nickname for everybody...I don't think anybody has been left out...equal nastiness for all!

It's about time we stop letting the Left accuse us so unjustly and make such false arguments. It's very, very rare to hear such words being used today in the public arena.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Provided she and her friends don't run around calling each other "fat bitch" - no problem.

I guess that's the difference between us then. If someone asked me not to call them fat bitch, it wouldn't matter to me if everyone else in the world could. It's different for everyone, I suppose.