What do you think of MNS?

[MarathonMike]

Shouldn't you resign from your Dem founded Socialist Security? Unless the only standard you have is a double standard.

Why should anyone who paid his/her money into a government imposed program for years, resign from it? Your statement is an off topic swipe without value. In other words your typical post.

 

[d0gbreath]

I read yesterday that it's 4 years of mandatory service, not the 18 months mentioned in here. Of course, as usual, getting into a university, by family money or scholarship, will exempt you.

Also being of the age of most posters on here, rules you out. So why wouldn't the skeets and skeetresses here want that to happen to other people? "It's always a great idea when it doesn't affect me."

 

[cnm]

No, not really. My dad told me about work done under the CCC ( Civilian Conservation Corps) and the WPA (Works Progress Administration), though none of my family were directly involve, due to being large family farmers.

Which doesn't address a choice of military service or prison. Like cannon fodder for the current unpleasantness there.

Be that as it may, I'm just amused by the central planning aspects of it so readily accepted in the endlessly noted land of the free market.

 

[cnm]

Why should anyone who paid his/her money into a government imposed program for years, resign from it?

Because they have received their return on investment and they hate Democrat inspired institutions that depend on compulsory worker funding to pay their benefit.

Though it looks a little as though they could force themselves to live with it when it benefits them. Funny that.

 

[MarathonMike]

"It's always a great idea when it doesn't affect me."

How funny. This is the rallying cry of Democrat NIMBYs. Remember when the illegals were bussed into Martha's Vineyard? Obama and his elite neighbors had them shipped out the next day.

 

[d0gbreath]

How funny. This is the rallying cry of Democrat NIMBYs. Remember when the illegals were bussed into Martha's Vineyard? Obama and his elite neighbors had them shipped out the next day.

My statement transcends political parties. It's basic human nature, leaning towards the shitty side.

 

[OKTexas]

I'll take the somewhat opposite position:
1. Kids that want to go to college should go to college. (don't interrupt their education)
2. Kids that want to get a job or job training should get to do that.
3. Kids that don't have any ambition should be offered 2-year employment or "job training" by the government as the OP suggests, but there need to be "strings" attached. Drug testing for example. Then the jobs that these young people work on need to be identified. Cleaning up blighted urban areas? Running heavy equipment? Truck driving? Others???

Most kids that go straight to college out of HS usually have no idea what they want and usually change their majors at least twice. I went to a Vo Tech in HS and came out a qualified draftsman, I loved it in school but absolutely hated being behind that board 8 hours a day. I quit after about two months and joined the Army to become a surveyor. Now CAD has replaced draftsmen.

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[kyzr]

Most kids that go straight to college out of HS usually have no idea what they want and usually change their majors at least twice. I went to a Vo Tech in HS and came out a qualified draftsman, I loved it in school but absolutely hated being behind that board 8 hours a day. I quit after about two months and joined the Army to become a surveyor. Now CAD has replaced draftsmen.

My grandson just graduated HS with no clue what he wants to do.
He got accepted at college, we'll see if your theory holds, he loves working with mechanic's tools on his MC.
I can still hear the lead draftsman tell his troops "I want to see AHs and elbows, get busy"

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Make it fun, a cool thing to do some sort of service...use tik tok

but keep it voluntary

FUCK Tik Tok! What is with you people?! Is your allegiance with America or China?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[HikerGuy83]

Personally, I think that we've seen a breakdown in our culture in general, and that no group has been more adversely affected by it than teens.

Agreed.

Many/most of them seem to me to be entirely disconnected from some of the core principles than most of us older folks take for granted.

Totally agree.

Serving a year or two in some civilian projects would also give young people a chance to mix with each other and (hopefully) understand each other a little better.

It's their parents that are failing them.

The government rarely does a good job of backfilling (look at education....we spend way to much for crappy results and the biggest influencer on a child's success in school....... parents).

I think it should be mandatory if your parents make above X dollars.

 

[Care4all]

FUCK Tik Tok! What is with you people?! Is your allegiance with America or China?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've never been on the site, there is no love loss here if they were shuttered yesterday.

What I meant by that comment, was we needed to find a way to start a trend, making public service by young people a cool thing, (or whatever the word for Cool is today?) where the young ones start posting videos on what they were doing while serving etc...from what I've been able to discern, I think things like that... trend on platforms like tik tok.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I was just listening to a brief discussion on Mandatory National Service, and I don't remember ever hearing a partisan political discussion about it. Things are so divided now that pretty much everything automatically falls under Red or Blue categories. I don't know where this topic falls.

Working definition: Mandatory national service (also called compulsory service) is a requirement, generally issued by the federal government, that people serve in the military or complete other works of service, most often as young people but age requirements vary. Modern propositions for compulsory service in the United States include young Americans serving in the military or working on civilian projects such as teaching in low-income areas, helping seniors, or maintaining infrastructure, among other ideas. (Mandatory National Service)

Personally, I think that we've seen a breakdown in our culture in general, and that no group has been more adversely affected by it than teens. Many/most of them seem to me to be entirely disconnected from some of the core principles than most of us older folks take for granted.

Serving a year or two in some civilian projects would also give young people a chance to mix with each other and (hopefully) understand each other a little better.

Thoughts?

I think at a minimum when kids hit 18 they need to at least complete boot camp. No phones, no parents, just them and the drill Sargent finding their place in life. It’s a tough lesson learning exactly who you are and where you fit in society.

I also think maybe once boot camp is done is when you can sign up for full service. You’ll know where you stand at that point.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

I was just listening to a brief discussion on Mandatory National Service, and I don't remember ever hearing a partisan political discussion about it. Things are so divided now that pretty much everything automatically falls under Red or Blue categories. I don't know where this topic falls.

Working definition: Mandatory national service (also called compulsory service) is a requirement, generally issued by the federal government, that people serve in the military or complete other works of service, most often as young people but age requirements vary. Modern propositions for compulsory service in the United States include young Americans serving in the military or working on civilian projects such as teaching in low-income areas, helping seniors, or maintaining infrastructure, among other ideas. (Mandatory National Service)

Personally, I think that we've seen a breakdown in our culture in general, and that no group has been more adversely affected by it than teens. Many/most of them seem to me to be entirely disconnected from some of the core principles than most of us older folks take for granted.

Serving a year or two in some civilian projects would also give young people a chance to mix with each other and (hopefully) understand each other a little better.

Thoughts?

I see nothing wrong with my kids taking the same oath I took to protect this country's constitution.

Oh yeah. They already did that when they decided to serve in this country's military.

While other countries may practice mandatory service, I don't believe it would fly in the US, because 'mandatory'.

I also believe at this point american magaturds detest 'mandatory'. They don't like being told what to do.

Magaturd 'leadership' encourages this behavior.