Zone1 Does the world still need good people, or are we all free to become monsters now?

[Orangecat]

Does the world still need good people, or are we all free to become monsters now?​

Do you consider yourself a good person?

 

[Woodznutz]

That's a good start!

The talking snake isn't true or terrifying but do explain what you think is more terrifying?

That Satan and the demons are able to influence or control humans, like Satan controlled Eve.

 

[Woodznutz]

Basically the reason why religion shouldn't be argued against non-supernatural logic. Ding wanted the debate, not me. Ding and I long ago concluded that Genesis and the bibles are not literally true. Are you with us?

That's a new one, but it shouldn't be counted out. So far we have two explanations:

1. The bible story is pure bullshit.
2. It's true but nobody wants to say so.
3. He was killed and didn't really live in the big fish for 3 days. (yours) (which proves the bibles are bullshit) (back to 2 stories.)


Wait for it.


Science has done one better than that! It hasn't tried to explain how the god was created out of atomic material, because the god is bulllshit. (supernatural bullshit as you suggest)

As you suggested, we can't debate or even discuss supernatural bullshit and logical natural science together.

Does the Bible say the earth is about 6000 years old? – Young Earth

The age of the earth is controversial since "science" and the Bible disagree. So, does the Bible say the earth is about 6000 years old?

www.neverthirsty.org

Their conclusion: The earth is about 10,000 years old. An atheist like me can't argue that! It must be true! Proven!

The Bible says that God created the heavens and the earth, and sometime later the earth became a chaotic wasteland. Genesis 1 reveals the restoration of the surface of the earth and the creation of modern man. What came before and the timeline is uncertain.

 

[hondo 50]

Liberals will continue their monstrous ways in grooming children.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Substack. Sam Harris has asked the question: "Does the world still need good people, or are we all free to become monsters now?"

He mentions "personal integrity," and posits an argument of a slippery slope - "The day we celebrate our children for their selfishness and cruelty will be the point of no return."

Does the world still need good people, or are we all free to become monsters now?​

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It may seem priggish to say it, given the current “vibe shift,” but we really can’t give up on personal integrity just yet. The day we celebrate our children for their selfishness and cruelty will be the point of no return.​

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Clearly, we need systems and institutions that can withstand the intrusions of a charismatic psychopath. We also need ones that can resist when otherwise normal people behave like psychopaths (e.g. on social media). However, if we want to live in good societies—where most games are positive-sum and decency is the norm—there is no substitute for having a sufficient number of people who are actually good, or struggling to be so.​

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It is, therefore, ominous that our political culture now celebrates figures who are obviously unethical—liars, bullies, and conmen—many of whom see no reason to even pretend to harbor deeper values or virtues. Whatever your politics, President Trump has said and done a thousand things that should make it impossible to admire him as a person—and he will commit further atrocities this week. Elon Musk has achieved a similarly vile orbit—lying with abandon, making common cause with racists and lunatics, and pointlessly defaming ordinary people—it seems, just for the fun of it. Both men are conspicuous for the degree to which they still resemble children, having retained a juvenile sense of entitlement, recklessness, and self-absorption. Both are already cautionary tales about the corrupting influences of fame, wealth, and power—even as they continue to achieve new heights...​

I have to wonder how many people who voted for Trump (not necessarily the hard base), feel about the Elephant(s) in the room. The morality that seems to put aside in favor of what -- petty revenge, payback, righting perceived wrongs (real and imagined), cultural issues...

It goes on and on. Forces beyond the control of people continue to rend, rip apart the very fabric of the American polity.

Democratic socialists are self-centered weird miserable lowlifes who are mentally unstable and pumped full of antidepressants....

When we talk of decent people no one with a lick of common Sense thinks of left wingers

 

[Dante]

Do you consider yourself a good person?

Others do. Myself? I just am who I am.

 

[Donald H]

The Bible says that God created the heavens and the earth, and sometime later the earth became a chaotic wasteland. Genesis 1 reveals the restoration of the surface of the earth and the creation of modern man. What came before and the timeline is uncertain.

The bible lied about the god creating the earth before the sun.

In fairness, the scribes were lied to by the god.

 

[Donald H]

That Satan and the demons are able to influence or control humans, like Satan controlled Eve.

The story I got is that Eve put out for Satan and they frequently got together while Adam was out hunting for unicorns.

 

[Donald H]

Excellent. I created the callout and even gave it the title you requested. The ball's in your court.

I don't believe this will end well for you.

Does the bull ring exclude others from posting there?

If so then I'll probably have to end it sooner than you think. I don't post messages just for you. I'll take it to where I'll have an audience and they can take part.

 

[Woodznutz]

The bible lied about the god creating the earth before the sun.

Bible doesn't say that.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

f I was God, I'd have turned this rock into a cinder by now

I know you know this, but it's coming.

No, humanity is mostly monsters/demonic. People have tried to go it alone without God. He let this go on long enough. He will go intervene soon enough.

 

[ding]

Does the bull ring exclude others from posting there?

The section I created it in does. It's just you and me having a discussion. Others can read the thread but they can't post in it.

 

[ding]

If so then I'll probably have to end it sooner than you think. I don't post messages just for you. I'll take it to where I'll have an audience and they can take part.

That's because you are a pussy and are afraid of me.

If you run away everyone will see it and I'll remind you of it daily.

 

[Woodznutz]

The story I got is that Eve put out for Satan and they frequently got together while Adam was out hunting for unicorns.

You remind me of Ishmael, mocking from the cheap seats.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

is the OP saying that the government paying NGOs to fund the Invasion, child and drug trafficking is a sign of maturity??

 

[Carl in Michigan]

is the OP saying that the government paying NGOs to fund the Invasion, child and drug trafficking is a sign of maturity??

Yes.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The bible lied about the god creating the earth before the sun.

In fairness, the scribes were lied to by the god.

Good Allah you're ignorant

 

[ding]

Does the bull ring exclude others from posting there?

Yes. What's wrong? Aren't you confident in your abilities?

 

[Donald H]

Good Allah you're ignorant

Here's a point I would like to make and Carl's reply will do:

Jordan Peterson says that god is fiction.

Jordan is an Atheist.

 

[ding]

Here's a point I would like to make and Carl's reply will do:

Jordan Peterson says that god is fiction.

Jordan is an Atheist.

Then prove it in the bull ring, pussy.