Six Visas Revoked Due to Hateful Charlie Kirk Comments

[Marener]

When and also where do you draw the line? Is this protected speech?

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The courts have made a lot of rulings about this very issue and the answer is they make a very high bar for what is considered incitement to violence.

It’s worked pretty well so far, but we see the enemies of free speech trying to walk it back now.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Of course it is.

It really isn't. Going home is not a punishment. Visa holders are guests. They can be told to leave at any time. They are not fined. They are not imprisoned. They do not have their property taken from them. They are sent home.

 

[marvin martian]

Nope, she was not a good candidate.

True, but you did it anyway.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Maybe they do, but they could have perfectly justifiable reasons.

To be eligible for a visa, do people now have to be right wing?

Nope, but I dont think its such a good idea to bring people into the country who harbor hate for its citizens, whether those citizens are on the left or the right.

 

[Marener]

Nope, but I dont think its such a good idea to bring people into the country who harbor hate for its citizens, whether those citizens are on the left or the right.

What if someone says they hate Jeffrey Epstein and are glad he is dead?

 

[ThisIsMe]

What if someone says they hate Jeffrey Epstein and are glad he is dead?

if epstein hadn't been a pedo,, then id say he shouldn't be hated.

But youre trying to muddy the waters by conflating hating a known child predator with hating entire groups of people.

The two are not the same

 

[Marener]

if epstein hadn't been a pedo,, then id say he shouldn't be hated.

But youre trying to muddy the waters by conflating hating a known child predator with hating entire groups of people.

The two are not the same

They didn’t hate an entire group of people. They hated Charlie Kirk. Maybe because they feel Charlie Kirk did things to deserve hatred.

 

[ThisIsMe]

They didn’t hate an entire group of people. They hated Charlie Kirk. Maybe because they feel Charlie Kirk did things to deserve hatred.

And im suggesting that if they hated kirk, there is a good chance they also hate others of the same ideology.

 

[Marener]

And im suggesting that if they hated kirk, there is a good chance they also hate others of the same ideology.

And maybe others of the same ideology also deserve hatred.

I can think of a lot of ideologies that deserve it.

Should we exclude people from the country who hate racists?

 

[ChristisKing]

The courts have made a lot of rulings about this very issue and the answer is they make a very high bar for what is considered incitement to violence.

So a man saying that he envisions two bullets in the head of his opponent and his children dying in their mother's arms isn't concerning to you?

 

[Old Rocks]

Yeah baby!! Now this is what I've been talking about since Charlie Kirk was assassinated. People who hate people this badly have the exact same violent rhetoric that Tyler Robinson had. Next we have to do something with the Americans who wish harm upon others like this.

State Department revokes six visas over offensive Charlie Kirk assassination comments

The Trump administration took action against visa holders who celebrated Charlie Kirk's assassination, with officials encouraging reports of offensive online comments.

www.foxnews.com

OK, then let's revoke the visas of all the right wing bastards that are threatening people. Goose and gander situation. Charlie Kirk was a right wing flap yapper, hardly anyone of importance. We have right wingers constantly threatening ex-Presidents and our elected representative. Time to apply the same to them.

 

[Couchpotato]

In what way?

It's politically stupid. By doing this you are accomplishing little to nothing and paying a huge cost. That cost being giving your political opposition easy talking points which are hard for you to defend. Is what they did "legal"? Sure but it's not easily explained and the average person looking at this doesnt know that and isnt likely to figure it out either and even if they do they wont seen the utility in doing this.

 

[marvin martian]

What if someone says they hate Jeffrey Epstein and are glad he is dead?

Charlie Kirk was murdered. Epstein was not.

 

[Marener]

So a man saying that he envisions two bullets in the head of his opponent and his children dying in their mother's arms isn't concerning to you?

It’s protected speech. We’ve seen far worse from republicans.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

And maybe others of the same ideology also deserve hatred.

I can think of a lot of ideologies that deserve it.

Should we exclude people from the country who hate racists?

Only if they go around saying so. They are guests. Sit down. Shut up. Or go home.

 

[ChristisKing]

OK, then let's revoke the visas of all the right wing bastards that are threatening people. Goose and gander situation. Charlie Kirk was a right wing flap yapper, hardly anyone of importance. We have right wingers constantly threatening ex-Presidents and our elected representative. Time to apply the same to them.

That's nothing but a bunch of lies.

It’s protected speech. We’ve seen far worse from republicans.

Saying you envision two bullets in your opponent's head and their children dying in their mother's arms is NOT free speech. That other childish crap in the article posted was, but that is criminal and he should have been arrested for that.

 

[Rawley]

OK, then let's revoke the visas of all the right wing bastards that are threatening people. Goose and gander situation. Charlie Kirk was a right wing flap yapper, hardly anyone of importance. We have right wingers constantly threatening ex-Presidents and our elected representative. Time to apply the same to them.

Go for it.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

That's nothing but a bunch of lies.



Saying you envision two bullets in your opponent's head and their children dying in their mother's arms is NOT free speech. That other childish crap in the article posted was, but that is criminal and he should have been arrested for that.

No one arrested. No one was punished.

 

[Marener]

Saying you envision two bullets in your opponent's head and their children dying in their mother's arms is NOT free speech

It’s definitely free speech. Sorry if that makes you angry, but it is.

I mean, Charlie Kirk himself wished for the execution of Biden.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

So a man saying that he envisions two bullets in the head of his opponent and his children dying in their mother's arms isn't concerning to you?

It's concerning but it's the Virginia candidate for AG. We can't send him home.