read her statement. not interested in anyone who defends murdering people of color because a particular person isn't a pillar of the community.
we don't know if he chose to resist. that isn't what the videos look like. unlike the skanky one, i'm reserving judgment on that one. but he was shot in the back.... while on the floor. they took a gun out of his pocket AFTER they killed him. but there doesn't seem to be any evidence he was reaching for it.
but how about the man who was killed last night? a black man with a licensed firearm. told the cop at a traffic stop he was licensed to have a gun and in fact had one in the car. he was told to give his ID and when he went to get his wallet, he was shot four times with his girlfriend and four year old daughter in the car.
do you think the same thing would have happened to a white man who said he was a licensed gun holder?
we can argue over the why's.... but do you think what happened should happen?
The video clearly shows him on the ground struggling against the cops
That is resisting
I don't know enough about the MN case yet
I do know that I was stopped by a state trooper once when I was carrying.
I shut off my truck. Put the key on the dash. Kept my hands on the wheel. I informed him a was carrying and had a permit and asked him if he wanted to take the gun off my hip or if he wanted me to exit the truck. He told me to lean forward and removed my weapon.
I got a warning for a burned out brake light and a thank you from the trooper
to me the video looks like what i heard....which is that the was asking why they were arresting him.... police aren't supposed to use deadly force unless their lives are in danger. it did not look like their lives were in danger. again, i'm withholding judgment. but a white person wouldn't have been shot as readily.
as to the gentleman in the car, the video is all over. he stopped. told the cop he had a lawful weapon in his car and was told to give his ID but was then shot for reaching for his wallet.
that's a problem.... this gentleman had stopped. gave no trouble to the police, had his girlfriend and four year old in the car.
after you see the video, put a white person in that seat and tell me the results wouldn't have been different.
Do you hear yourself?
"I'm withholding judgement but a white person wouldn't have been shot as readily"
Sounds like judgement to me
Now this guy told the cop he had a gun then reached around his back
Sorry but you just don't do that.
that is in response to you saying he was resisting. i didn't see that. and someone "resisting", when he's on his stomach on the floor is not necessarily life threatening to the officers. i'm simply pointing that out because you seem to think people deserve to be shot dead for very little reason.
he didn't reach around to his back.... watch the video...and put a white guy in that driver;s seat. your refusal to acknowledge that this is a problem is perplexing to me.
OK so you're talking about 2 different cases at the same time
The MN video shows what happened after the guy was shot not before.
And as I said I have been stopped by a cop while carrying so I have experience with the situation
It was about 4 years ago. I was coming back from the range where a friend of mine and I were practicing. I had a .40 on my right hip in an inside the waistband holster.
I stopped at a stop sign the pulled through. a few seconds later an unmarked state police car hit the blue lights.
I stopped the truck. Put it in Park. Rolled the window all the way down. Killed the ignition and put the keys on the dash. I kept my wrists resting on the steering wheel with my hands spread wide
Before the trooper could even say a word I said, " Good morning Sir, my name is______ I have a permit to carry and have a weapon on my right hip.
would you like to take it off me or should i exit the truck first?"
I did not move a fucking muscle until he told me what to do.
He told me to lean forward, took the gun from my holster stepped back and asked me to get out
I complied right away keeping my hands in sight and moving slowly.
He asked me to move to the rear of the truck. I did so
He took my weapon, made it safe and locked it in his car
After a few minutes he ran my license and plates and gave me a safety warning for a burned out brake light. He handed me my weapon (unloaded and cleared and my magazine) said thank you and let me drive away.
THAT is how you handle a traffic stop when you are carrying