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[Old Rocks]

There never was a 'Leave it to Beaver' America. Until I was 15, we never lived in a town larger than 2500 people, and, often, lived in towns with less than 1000, in Oregon and Washington. I saw just as much perversion and brutality in those towns as I have seen in the cities I have lived in since then. And that period was the late '40's and '50's, supposedly the ideal American era.

However, at the same time, I have seen the civil rights revolution, where this nation finally decided to honor the words in the Declaration of Independence. I have seen things much improve on the reservations, the concentration camps we put our Native Americans in. With MediCare, we no longer tell our senior citizens to just die if they need medical care, we just bankrupt them now.

And, to me the wonder of all, with this device we are communicating on, all the sudden, the world is very small. We all get to talk, however acrimonously, to each other. As others have pointed out, news is a pervert hurting a little girl, not an old gentleman taking hours of his time to mentor the little girl for school. There is much more of the latter than the former, although far too much of the former, still. So the good goes unreported, and the bad is highlighted. Still and all, I see a better world than I was seeing in the early '50's.

 

[R.D.]

I think I turned in to an conservative. Yep. Pretty sure that's where I am at this point in time. I got pushed while sitting on the fence. What was that last proverbial straw?

Nice!

The last straw, I don't know for you. But now you are part of the solution

 

[Delta4Embassy]

I have been open minded for a very long time. I guess that would make me leaning left..a liberal. However, as each day passes by, I find myself missing what used to be.
Lucy and Ricky had twin beds.
Families were like Ozzie and Harriet, Leave it to Beaver, My Three Sons, Father Knows Best, Bonanza, etc.
We had doctors like Marcus Welby, Ben Casey, Dr. Kildaire.
Lemonade stands were on street corners and kids rode bikes from can't see to can't see.

Now everything is going downhill. People are dying, doctors want money more than practicing the hypocratic oath, HMO's and APO's and Obamacare and red tape just to "get fixed". Murders, drive bys, gangs, gay parades where nudity is encouraged and idiots take their impressionable children to see it just because they want rights so that means waggling a penis in faces.

A handshake meant you had honor and would keep your word; God was allowed in businesses, on our dollars, in parks and in schools; morals and values were taught at home by parents that didn't have to have 5 jobs so at least one was there for them.

I think I turned in to an conservative. Yep. Pretty sure that's where I am at this point in time. I got pushed while sitting on the fence. What was that last proverbial straw?

People Are Actually Drinking Pig's Blood Cocktails, And We're Kind Of Terrified

Just turn 40 did ya? I've gotten considerably more conservative as well as I got older. For me though, I don't view social liberalism as the problem as to sexuality and such being what's to blame. I think our complete reversal of what we object to is more responsible. We glorify violence and call it entertainment, yet denounce love and intimacy. We've reversed what should be upsetting us. I think as we get older, we see the changes that occur more clearly.

 

[Freewill]

I have been open minded for a very long time. I guess that would make me leaning left..a liberal. However, as each day passes by, I find myself missing what used to be.
Lucy and Ricky had twin beds.
Families were like Ozzie and Harriet, Leave it to Beaver, My Three Sons, Father Knows Best, Bonanza, etc.
We had doctors like Marcus Welby, Ben Casey, Dr. Kildaire.
Lemonade stands were on street corners and kids rode bikes from can't see to can't see.

Now everything is going downhill. People are dying, doctors want money more than practicing the hypocratic oath, HMO's and APO's and Obamacare and red tape just to "get fixed". Murders, drive bys, gangs, gay parades where nudity is encouraged and idiots take their impressionable children to see it just because they want rights so that means waggling a penis in faces.

A handshake meant you had honor and would keep your word; God was allowed in businesses, on our dollars, in parks and in schools; morals and values were taught at home by parents that didn't have to have 5 jobs so at least one was there for them.

I think I turned in to an conservative. Yep. Pretty sure that's where I am at this point in time. I got pushed while sitting on the fence. What was that last proverbial straw?

People Are Actually Drinking Pig's Blood Cocktails, And We're Kind Of Terrified

First of all, you now sound open minded, before you thought that being a liberal made you open minded, far from the reality.

Second, people are not just dying. Life expectancy does continue to increase if slowly. The difference we see in life expectancy throughout the world has to do with people dying of natural causes not anything to do with medical care.

Thirdly, the removal of references to God or religion is pretty much limited to Christianity. It has nothing to do with whether or not Christianity is a threat it has to do with liberals having to win. They pick a side and there is absolutely no compromise in their position and we let it happen. One whiner wins the day over stuff that really doesn't matter at all to them except they have to win..

 

[Freewill]

no shit...families were never like leave it to beaver...and why is it the conservatives like to shout out how great the past was and how terrible the present is? i think they are a self fulfilling policy...i am not happy with what is going on in the white house today but i will say this....republicans are doing nothing at this time but bitching...have you noticed that...no alternative polities....no wanting to help people..just bitching..the finger pointing and name calling is beyond me...and it is coming from both sides

Actually if you listen to the video of dumb and dumber actor Jeff Danials it is the liberal view that the past was some sort of utopia and no we in the US are no longer great. That has to be one of the biggest crocks of liberal crap ever produced. All one has to do is read a history book on the building of America or watch the series The Men Who Built America. Those were some bad times for the average Joe that I don't want to go back and visit.

 

[Mac1958]

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We've gone from Lucy & Ricky sleeping in separate beds to people literally shitting on television for entertainment.

There are those who steadfastly deny that our culture is in decay and that our willingness to continue lowering standards has nothing to do with it.

They're a big part of the problem.

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[Iceweasel]

no shit...families were never like leave it to beaver...and why is it the conservatives like to shout out how great the past was and how terrible the present is? i think they are a self fulfilling policy...i am not happy with what is going on in the white house today but i will say this....republicans are doing nothing at this time but bitching...have you noticed that...no alternative polities....no wanting to help people..just bitching..the finger pointing and name calling is beyond me...and it is coming from both sides

Families may not have been like 50s TV but they weren't broken and fractured like they are today. People like to mention slavery, industrial age sufferage, etc. True, things look better compared to that but who among us was alive then? Conservatives are talking about a generation ago. Values are different. Many of us can remember when people could leave their homes unlocked. With today's mentality, unlocked doors create theft.

And what do you mean Republicans don't have answers? You don't have a TV, radio or internet? They can't do jack about it for now except on a state level here and there. If they block budgets in the House they are accused of shutting down the government, the Democrats fight to get in front of the camera and the media reports it as such. That's just not a fair analysis. They're talking but you aren't listening and no one can make you listen.

 

[LoneLaugher]

no shit...families were never like leave it to beaver...and why is it the conservatives like to shout out how great the past was and how terrible the present is? i think they are a self fulfilling policy...i am not happy with what is going on in the white house today but i will say this....republicans are doing nothing at this time but bitching...have you noticed that...no alternative polities....no wanting to help people..just bitching..the finger pointing and name calling is beyond me...and it is coming from both sides

Families may not have been like 50s TV but they weren't broken and fractured like they are today. People like to mention slavery, industrial age sufferage, etc. True, things look better compared to that but who among us was alive then? Conservatives are talking about a generation ago. Values are different. Many of us can remember when people could leave their homes unlocked. With today's mentality, unlocked doors create theft.

And what do you mean Republicans don't have answers? You don't have a TV, radio or internet? They can't do jack about it for now except on a state level here and there. If they block budgets in the House they are accused of shutting down the government, the Democrats fight to get in front of the camera and the media reports it as such. That's just not a fair analysis. They're talking but you aren't listening and no one can make you listen.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh! Da big baad media is tewwin wies an makin da good guys wook bad! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahh!

 

[Iceweasel]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh! Da big baad media is tewwin wies an makin da good guys wook bad! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahh!

That's a good representation of the left. All baby all the time.

 

[Silhouette]

That's what I always told myself. That's why I called it a straw. All it takes is. one. last. straw.
That was it.

And it is going to just get more perverted. There is no going back. And the forward trail looks mighty disgusting.

It was the gay thing for me. After hearing of an old family friend who died of AIDS after being molested as a boy and the story of how he went in vengeance to kill others like him in unresolved mental issues, spreading HIV far and wide.. Substituting mental illness for sanity is where I drew the line. And it was crossed quite a while ago.

 

[Moonglow]

"Greed is good"

 

[Votto]

I have been open minded for a very long time. I guess that would make me leaning left..a liberal. However, as each day passes by, I find myself missing what used to be.
Lucy and Ricky had twin beds.
Families were like Ozzie and Harriet, Leave it to Beaver, My Three Sons, Father Knows Best, Bonanza, etc.
We had doctors like Marcus Welby, Ben Casey, Dr. Kildaire.
Lemonade stands were on street corners and kids rode bikes from can't see to can't see.

Now everything is going downhill. People are dying, doctors want money more than practicing the hypocratic oath, HMO's and APO's and Obamacare and red tape just to "get fixed". Murders, drive bys, gangs, gay parades where nudity is encouraged and idiots take their impressionable children to see it just because they want rights so that means waggling a penis in faces.

A handshake meant you had honor and would keep your word; God was allowed in businesses, on our dollars, in parks and in schools; morals and values were taught at home by parents that didn't have to have 5 jobs so at least one was there for them.

I think I turned in to an conservative. Yep. Pretty sure that's where I am at this point in time. I got pushed while sitting on the fence. What was that last proverbial straw?

People Are Actually Drinking Pig's Blood Cocktails, And We're Kind Of Terrified

Not to worry liberals, we have a whole new generation of indoctrinated socialists being raised in our public schools who are forbidden to hear the word "God" or "morality" that will replace people like her when she dies.

And if that isn't enough, we have legions of illegal aliens crossing the border who will mindlessly vote "D" so they won't suffer any ill from illegally crossing the border.

 

[hortysir]

I don't think people are "sicker" than they used to be..on the contrary I believe people in general are slowly but surely becoming more compassionate.

It seems to be a sicker society only because we see into the shadows that used to be private with today's means of communicating and a media that probes more unflinchingly as it exposes the underbelly of our strangest citizens.

Rape and child molestation has been going on since the dawn of time. It was just a dirty secret that for the most part never had the light of day shone on it except for the few percentages of those that got caught.

Murder and assault have also been a plague we have endured because people hid their experiences far more than we do today.

Consider what "we" did to the native Americans... Think about the unthinkable things that occured in the institution of slavery.

No.. things are not getting worse. They are just brought out in the open and thrown in our faces now.

Freedom of speach and "the public's right to know" is a coin with two sides. One is truth or the next best thing and the other side of the coin is the darkness and depravity of human nature we need to see and hear about because we value "the truth".

If you are tired of getting exposed to the dark side then tune it out. You are not obligated to read the National Enquirerer or leave your TV set on. If everything MUST be your business then stop whining about what you learn.

The world IS getting better. But remember in the news.."If it bleeds...it leads".

You must look for the goodness on your own. It is all around you. It isn't that hard to spot. You don't need Fox News to point it out for you. Rupert Murdoch won't offer it to you because it doesn't make him money.

I find it strangely comforting that that worst of human nature is exposed with today's media. It shows what we need to work on. Most of the path to enlightenment is seeing what the world REALLY is and not living in denial.

to the bold.

Not only brought out in the open but reported on, in a 24hr news cycle, ad-naseum to such a degree that you're labled insensitive for not feeling the same faux outrage as the reporter or a raging lunatic if you do

 

[boedicca]

Ethics, morals, and principles, sadly lacking in America today. I'm always reminded of this Winston Churchill quote....

“If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty ,you have no brain.”

What's happened is that the Civil Society which promoted shared, life affirming values has been crowded out by the twin abomination of Big Government and Pop Culture.

 

[Vigilante]

Ethics, morals, and principles, sadly lacking in America today. I'm always reminded of this Winston Churchill quote....

“If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty ,you have no brain.”

What's happened is that the Civil Society which promoted shared, life affirming values has been crowded out by the twin abomination of Big Government and Pop Culture.

A benefit of the subversive left infiltrating our educational system, government, and NEWS media!

 

[tinydancer]

The kids are much worse off today then ever before

Children have always been uncivilized. Lord of the Flies comes to mind.

It has been our duty as elders in the past to guide them into mature adults with a sense of duty, compassion, caring for their fellow human beings and having an appreciation of the wonderful world we live in.

I don't know the when or the how of it but somewhere along the line in the past few years it would appear we have left children on their own without guiding them and we are witnessing the results of shirking our duties.

And it's not pretty.

Headlines about how online bullies cause teen to commit suicide, two young boys feeding a live kitten to their dogs, one boy filming another boy brutally beating his puppy, two female teenagers forcing a disabled child to have sex with an animal and filming this same child as he kept falling thru ice on a pond, and two young girls volunteering at a care home beating up a 98 year old, filming it and up loading the video. These are but a few.

I can't consider all of these kids to be "The Bad Seed". We've really let down a generation.

 

[birddog]

I have been open minded for a very long time. I guess that would make me leaning left..a liberal. However, as each day passes by, I find myself missing what used to be.
Lucy and Ricky had twin beds.
Families were like Ozzie and Harriet, Leave it to Beaver, My Three Sons, Father Knows Best, Bonanza, etc.
We had doctors like Marcus Welby, Ben Casey, Dr. Kildaire.
Lemonade stands were on street corners and kids rode bikes from can't see to can't see.

Now everything is going downhill. People are dying, doctors want money more than practicing the hypocratic oath, HMO's and APO's and Obamacare and red tape just to "get fixed". Murders, drive bys, gangs, gay parades where nudity is encouraged and idiots take their impressionable children to see it just because they want rights so that means waggling a penis in faces.

A handshake meant you had honor and would keep your word; God was allowed in businesses, on our dollars, in parks and in schools; morals and values were taught at home by parents that didn't have to have 5 jobs so at least one was there for them.

I think I turned in to an conservative. Yep. Pretty sure that's where I am at this point in time. I got pushed while sitting on the fence. What was that last proverbial straw?

People Are Actually Drinking Pig's Blood Cocktails, And We're Kind Of Terrified

That is one of the most sensible and honest post I have ever read! Thanks.

None of us will ever agree totally, but American values, traditions, and also patriotism are all very important.

 

[Moonglow]

People drink milk, the white blood, but I don't.....

 

[hortysir]

The kids are much worse off today then ever before

Children have always been uncivilized. Lord of the Flies comes to mind.

It has been our duty as elders in the past to guide them into mature adults with a sense of duty, compassion, caring for their fellow human beings and having an appreciation of the wonderful world we live in.

I don't know the when or the how of it but somewhere along the line in the past few years it would appear we have left children on their own without guiding them and we are witnessing the results of shirking our duties.

And it's not pretty.

Headlines about how online bullies cause teen to commit suicide, two young boys feeding a live kitten to their dogs, one boy filming another boy brutally beating his puppy, two female teenagers forcing a disabled child to have sex with an animal and filming this same child as he kept falling thru ice on a pond, and two young girls volunteering at a care home beating up a 98 year old, filming it and up loading the video. Sadly the list seems endless.

I can't consider all of these kids to be "The Bad Seed". We've really let down a generation.

The audience is just bigger.
Weird shit has always happened. It was just contained in the community's closets or local papers. Now anything and everything is instantly viral and exaggerated.

While I do agree that recent generations have devalued life while elevating their own self worth, I DO hope for a new rebellion that will turn us around.

Maybe the kids of all these freaks will rebel against their idiotic behavior and yo-yo us back into sanity

 

[Moonglow]

Lucy and Ricky had twin beds because they couldn't stand each other.