Should We Wait Until We Need Oxygen Masks Like Beijing Before Doing an AOC Green New Deal?

[munkle]

- There can be debate over whether burning fossil fuels causes global warming.

- There is NO debate over whether it causes pollution, and the more we burn, the more it causes.

Question to all the rabid-dog Ocasio-Cortez haters, and it can only be called that since the woman has barely taken office. She's young and she's pretty, and I think there is something else going on with either repressed sexual identity problems or impotent old men.

- Do we wait for the planet to become like Beijing or Tokyo, where people put a dollar into a street corner vending machine for a few breaths of fresh air? How many more pollutants do you want to breath?

Chinese buy up bottles of fresh air from Canada

 

[Rambunctious]

We should always strive for clean air and clean water....that has little to do with this so called crises "global warming"...

 

[Thinker101]

- There can be debate over whether burning fossil fuels causes global warming.

- There is NO debate over whether it causes pollution, and the more we burn, the more it causes.

Question to all the rabid-dog Ocasio-Cortez haters, and it can only be called that since the woman has barely taken office. She's young and she's pretty, and I think there is something else going on with either repressed sexual identity problems or impotent old men.

- Do we wait for the planet to become like Beijing or Tokyo, where people put a dollar into a street corner vending machine for a few breaths of fresh air? How many more pollutants do you want to breath?

Chinese buy up bottles of fresh air from Canada

Seriously?! You don't see a problem with your thread?

 

[whitehall]

Go protest in China and let us know how you make out. You almost gotta laugh that the profoundly ignorant left has no freaking idea of what the crazy green plan would do to America's economy while the rest of the world is profiting from fossil fuel.

 

[Defiant1]

If the libtards were serious about climate change and believed the planet was in peril, they would be calling for us to declare war on China and India.

But they aren't. They just want power.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

A theorem holds that if you put an infinite number of munkles in front of an infinite number of typewriters, they will reproduce all of the great literature ever written.

As this thread demonstrates, however, one munkle at one keyboard only produces nonsense.

 

[task0778]

I think we should wait until we come up with the $93 trillion it's going to take to pay for the GND. Seriously, the OP might've overstated the threat just a tad.

 

[Hale]

AOC is not particularly young, nor is she even remotely pretty. But more importantly, she IS functionally illiterate - and all the repressed sexual issues and impotence you can muster won't change that.

Yes, burning fossil fuels causes pollution, we can agree on that. We could also agree that not burning those fuels eliminates the pollution from them. The problem lies here: That is literally the only solution the "Green New Deal" offers.

It's exactly like saying we could eliminate all traffic deaths if we changed the maximum speed limit to 0mph. True, but stupid.

 

[basquebromance]

I think if you work within the Democratic system, you have to be incredibly honest about who the Democrats are, which is that they are pro-capitalism, very moderate, and don’t want to move very far left to tackle the challenges we see worldwide

Sure there’s an avenue for socialists to upend the Democratic Party from the inside, but they’d really have to be at war with their own party. And I don’t see that in Congresswoman Cortez

 

[munkle]

AOC is not particularly young, nor is she even remotely pretty. But more importantly, she IS functionally illiterate - and all the repressed sexual issues and impotence you can muster won't change that.

Yes, burning fossil fuels causes pollution, we can agree on that. We could also agree that not burning those fuels eliminates the pollution from them. The problem lies here: That is literally the only solution the "Green New Deal" offers.

It's exactly like saying we could eliminate all traffic deaths if we changed the maximum speed limit to 0mph. True, but stupid.

You really don't see the problem with your analogy? We can generate energy without generating pollution, i.e., your "traffic deaths." So no, it's not similar to speed and traffic deaths. But you get the prize for the day for stupid.

 

[22lcidw]

We should always strive for clean air and clean water....that has little to do with this so called crises "global warming"...

Just improving current pollution standards will reduce the pollution in those nations.

 

[Hale]

We can generate energy without generating pollution, i.e., your "traffic deaths." So no, it's not similar to speed and traffic deaths.

The "Green New Deal" merely says "eliminate fossil fuels", it does not explain how other than "explore alternatives". That's not a solution.

But since you have a solution, let's hear it.

 

[buckeye45_73]

AOC is not particularly young, nor is she even remotely pretty. But more importantly, she IS functionally illiterate - and all the repressed sexual issues and impotence you can muster won't change that.

Yes, burning fossil fuels causes pollution, we can agree on that. We could also agree that not burning those fuels eliminates the pollution from them. The problem lies here: That is literally the only solution the "Green New Deal" offers.

It's exactly like saying we could eliminate all traffic deaths if we changed the maximum speed limit to 0mph. True, but stupid.

You really don't see the problem with your analogy? We can generate energy without generating pollution, i.e., your "traffic deaths." So no, it's not similar to speed and traffic deaths. But you get the prize for the day for stupid.

Really? I have to ask this, so why aren't we doing it?

 

[buckeye45_73]

We should always strive for clean air and clean water....that has little to do with this so called crises "global warming"...

Just improving current pollution standards will reduce the pollution in those nations.

Now all we have to do is convince them that expensive green energy is the way to go......if you have to starve...oh well

 

[22lcidw]

We should always strive for clean air and clean water....that has little to do with this so called crises "global warming"...

Just improving current pollution standards will reduce the pollution in those nations.

Now all we have to do is convince them that expensive green energy is the way to go......if you have to starve...oh well

What the hell are you spouting? The pollution in China gives you a good life. I am not promoting the green crap. But putting pollution controls using common sense on manufacturing is common sense.

 

[munkle]

We should always strive for clean air and clean water....that has little to do with this so called crises "global warming"...

Just improving current pollution standards will reduce the pollution in those nations.

Now all we have to do is convince them that expensive green energy is the way to go......if you have to starve...oh well

Wind and solar has made great leaps in efficiency and is now getting on par with fossil fuel. All we have to do is stop subsidizing oil with the oil depletion allowance and encourage R&D in renewables. The AOC plan is just a starting point for discussion, big deal. But they way she has been pounced upon you'd think she denied the Holocaust.

 

[Rambunctious]

We should always strive for clean air and clean water....that has little to do with this so called crises "global warming"...

Just improving current pollution standards will reduce the pollution in those nations.

Now all we have to do is convince them that expensive green energy is the way to go......if you have to starve...oh well

Wind and solar has made great leaps in efficiency and is now getting on par with fossil fuel. All we have to do is stop subsidizing oil with the oil depletion allowance and encourage R&D in renewables. The AOC plan is just a starting point for discussion, big deal. But they way she has been pounced upon you'd think she denied the Holocaust.

Bullshit....try looking up natural gas.....a fossil fuel moron....

 

[The Original Tree]

- There can be debate over whether burning fossil fuels causes global warming.

- There is NO debate over whether it causes pollution, and the more we burn, the more it causes.

Question to all the rabid-dog Ocasio-Cortez haters, and it can only be called that since the woman has barely taken office. She's young and she's pretty, and I think there is something else going on with either repressed sexual identity problems or impotent old men.

- Do we wait for the planet to become like Beijing or Tokyo, where people put a dollar into a street corner vending machine for a few breaths of fresh air? How many more pollutants do you want to breath?

Chinese buy up bottles of fresh air from Canada

How are we going to stuff a Cork Big Enough up Your Gaping Stretched Asshole to stop you from emitting Methane?

Maybe you should quit breathing so you will stop exhaling CO2. You are destroying the planet from both ends of your filthy body.

 

[The Original Tree]

We should always strive for clean air and clean water....that has little to do with this so called crises "global warming"...

Just improving current pollution standards will reduce the pollution in those nations.

Now all we have to do is convince them that expensive green energy is the way to go......if you have to starve...oh well

Wind and solar has made great leaps in efficiency and is now getting on par with fossil fuel. All we have to do is stop subsidizing oil with the oil depletion allowance and encourage R&D in renewables. The AOC plan is just a starting point for discussion, big deal. But they way she has been pounced upon you'd think she denied the Holocaust.

Bullshit....try looking up natural gas.....a fossil fuel moron....

It's not a Fossil Fuel. That is a 150 year old disproved theory.
Titan is an entire planet with Oceans, lakes, and Rivers of Methane, and NO Life ever lived there. Saturn and Jupiter (gas giants) are full of Hydrocarbons.

We have the same amount of CARBON on Earth as the day Earth was formed. It just gets recycled.

 

[Rambunctious]

We should always strive for clean air and clean water....that has little to do with this so called crises "global warming"...

Just improving current pollution standards will reduce the pollution in those nations.

Now all we have to do is convince them that expensive green energy is the way to go......if you have to starve...oh well

Wind and solar has made great leaps in efficiency and is now getting on par with fossil fuel. All we have to do is stop subsidizing oil with the oil depletion allowance and encourage R&D in renewables. The AOC plan is just a starting point for discussion, big deal. But they way she has been pounced upon you'd think she denied the Holocaust.

Bullshit....try looking up natural gas.....a fossil fuel moron....

It's not a Fossil Fuel. That is a 150 year old disproved theory.
Titan is an entire planet with Oceans, lakes, and Rivers of Methane, and NO Life ever lived there. Saturn and Jupiter (gas giants) are full of Hydrocarbons.

We have the same amount of CARBON on Earth as the day Earth was formed. It just gets recycled.

Natural gas is called a non-renewable resource. Natural gas is found in deep underground rock formations or associated with other hydrocarbon reservoirs in coal beds and as methane clathrates. Petroleum is another resource and fossil fuel found in close proximity to and with natural gas.

Natural gas - Wikipedia