Hafar1014
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They are the best ally we have
should we really end our relationship with Israel?
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Absolutely.
Our "ally".....
Our "ally".....
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And?
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Carl in Michigan
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The modern nation of Israel is a FULFILLMENT of Bible prophecy
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"THE LAVON AFFAIR, USS LIBERTY, JONATHAN POLLARD, LAVI FIHTER PROJECT (1) AND ON AND ON..."
What else would we expect to hear from yet another US funded Hasbara hireling?
Keep that American blood and America's $Trillions(2) flowing....Right?
America's most treacherous, parasitic and costliest welfare state is, in reality, America's most insidious enemy because of its enormous infestation of traitorous Zionist shills, disloyal "Israel First" government officials, "dual" citizens and AIPAC owned politicians.
Because of right wing Zionist control of Western MSM, most Americans have been professionally deceived into believing that the Islamic world poses a significant threat to Americans at home and abroad while remaining clueless as to the true cause of that alleged enmity. (3)
A little over 50 years ago when I walked and hitch-hiked around the Islamic Middle East, I enjoyed the generous hospitality of countless everyday Muslims who gave me rides, shelter and other life sustaining provisions along the way.
The kindness I experienced along the way continued in spite of the fact that I made no effort to hide the fact that I was an American.
In spite of that, my numerous Muslim hosts insisted on introducing me to their friends and family who had also never seen a Westerner and were fascinated by the U.S.: American movies, American cars, American music and everyday life in America.
The two questions I was most frequently asked by members of my small audience were:
1. "Why do Americans suddenly hate us?"
And:
2. "Why does America help the Israelis murder Palestinians and steal their land?"
Even though I tried to explain the enormous amount of control that the countless Israeli lobbies have over the U.S. government and the egregious pro Israel bias of U.S. media that deceives America's lazier individuals, they still couldn't understand how people as seemingly advanced and sophisticated as Americans could be so easily deceived, controlled and manipulated.
Now, over 50 years later, when most Americans oppose U.S. funded Zionist genocide, (4) I am still surprised at the number of gullible, lazy and poorly educated Americans who still know absolutely nothing about insatiable Zionist parasitism, U.S. funded Genocide, endless Israeli treachery and unrivaled Israeli betrayals.
While the U.S. Government's unconditional support for the most ruthless and brutal foreign funded Genocide in history has alerted many Americans to the treachery of Israel's "Mad Dog" (5) regional threat, America's traitorous politicians clearly remain loyal to their masters at AIPAC etc.
(1). "How Israel Has Betrayed America"
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/06/06/how-israel-has-betrayed-america/
EXCERPT "A recent report by Newsweek magazine that Israel has spied on the United States at “an alarming level” and has done so “more than any other ally does” raises a very serious issue concerning how much Israel has betrayed America, which is something that the American mainstream media have time and again refused to debate in public.
But this is not an isolated case, as “Israel has a long record of getting U.S. military technology to China. In the early 1990s then-CIA Director James Woolsey told a Senate Government Affairs Committee that Israel had been selling U.S. secrets to China for about a decade. More than 12 years ago the U.S. demanded Israel cancel a contract to supply China with Python III missiles, which included technology developed by the U.S. for its Sidewinder missiles, the Associated Press reported in 2002,” as Jordan wrote.
In addition, it is widely known that the U.S. was also angered when “Israel violated agreements by exporting restricted US technology it buys with yearly US subsidies. This was the case with the largely US-funded Lavi fighter-plane program. Israel…passed on technology to Beijing. China’s F-10 fighter jet is believed to be almost identical to the Lavi”—and the reason is that “Israel’s military industry is dependent on exports for its survival. And arms sales to China are among its most lucrative businesses,” in a report by The Insider."
CONTINUED
(2). "The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion". (as of 2002)
https://www.wrmea.org/003-june/the-...israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html
By Thomas R. Stauffer
EXCERPT "Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs each year."CONTINUED
(3). “Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”
– John Sheehan, Society of Jesus. (Jesuit priest)
(4). “The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds”
truthout.org
(5). "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Moshe Dayan
What else would we expect to hear from yet another US funded Hasbara hireling?
Keep that American blood and America's $Trillions(2) flowing....Right?
America's most treacherous, parasitic and costliest welfare state is, in reality, America's most insidious enemy because of its enormous infestation of traitorous Zionist shills, disloyal "Israel First" government officials, "dual" citizens and AIPAC owned politicians.
Because of right wing Zionist control of Western MSM, most Americans have been professionally deceived into believing that the Islamic world poses a significant threat to Americans at home and abroad while remaining clueless as to the true cause of that alleged enmity. (3)
A little over 50 years ago when I walked and hitch-hiked around the Islamic Middle East, I enjoyed the generous hospitality of countless everyday Muslims who gave me rides, shelter and other life sustaining provisions along the way.
The kindness I experienced along the way continued in spite of the fact that I made no effort to hide the fact that I was an American.
In spite of that, my numerous Muslim hosts insisted on introducing me to their friends and family who had also never seen a Westerner and were fascinated by the U.S.: American movies, American cars, American music and everyday life in America.
The two questions I was most frequently asked by members of my small audience were:
1. "Why do Americans suddenly hate us?"
And:
2. "Why does America help the Israelis murder Palestinians and steal their land?"
Even though I tried to explain the enormous amount of control that the countless Israeli lobbies have over the U.S. government and the egregious pro Israel bias of U.S. media that deceives America's lazier individuals, they still couldn't understand how people as seemingly advanced and sophisticated as Americans could be so easily deceived, controlled and manipulated.
Now, over 50 years later, when most Americans oppose U.S. funded Zionist genocide, (4) I am still surprised at the number of gullible, lazy and poorly educated Americans who still know absolutely nothing about insatiable Zionist parasitism, U.S. funded Genocide, endless Israeli treachery and unrivaled Israeli betrayals.
While the U.S. Government's unconditional support for the most ruthless and brutal foreign funded Genocide in history has alerted many Americans to the treachery of Israel's "Mad Dog" (5) regional threat, America's traitorous politicians clearly remain loyal to their masters at AIPAC etc.
(1). "How Israel Has Betrayed America"
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/06/06/how-israel-has-betrayed-america/
EXCERPT "A recent report by Newsweek magazine that Israel has spied on the United States at “an alarming level” and has done so “more than any other ally does” raises a very serious issue concerning how much Israel has betrayed America, which is something that the American mainstream media have time and again refused to debate in public.
But this is not an isolated case, as “Israel has a long record of getting U.S. military technology to China. In the early 1990s then-CIA Director James Woolsey told a Senate Government Affairs Committee that Israel had been selling U.S. secrets to China for about a decade. More than 12 years ago the U.S. demanded Israel cancel a contract to supply China with Python III missiles, which included technology developed by the U.S. for its Sidewinder missiles, the Associated Press reported in 2002,” as Jordan wrote.
In addition, it is widely known that the U.S. was also angered when “Israel violated agreements by exporting restricted US technology it buys with yearly US subsidies. This was the case with the largely US-funded Lavi fighter-plane program. Israel…passed on technology to Beijing. China’s F-10 fighter jet is believed to be almost identical to the Lavi”—and the reason is that “Israel’s military industry is dependent on exports for its survival. And arms sales to China are among its most lucrative businesses,” in a report by The Insider."
CONTINUED
(2). "The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion". (as of 2002)
https://www.wrmea.org/003-june/the-...israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html
By Thomas R. Stauffer
EXCERPT "Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs each year."CONTINUED
(3). “Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”
– John Sheehan, Society of Jesus. (Jesuit priest)
(4). “The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds”
The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds
Approval for Israel’s attack on Gaza has plummeted by 14 percent since November.
truthout.org
Moshe Dayan
Another fact to which our noisy, gullible and poorly educated "Israel Firsters" are oblivious are the countless references to wiping out "Amalek" by the murderous Netanyahu regime which includes all the clueless non Jews for whom no amount of American blood or resources is enough for America's most insidious threat and insatiable parasite.
“124 Israeli Genocidal Intent Quotes”
Zionists In Their Own Words
The Zionism Observer is a database documenting Israeli genocidal intent.
zionism.observer
"There are no half measures. [The Gazan cities of] Rafah, Deir al-Balah, Nuseirat – total annihilation. 'You will blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven' – there's no place under heaven."
Hafar1014
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Israel does our fighting fir us in the Middle East. They buy arms form us creating jobs. They stopped Russia from taking over the worlds oil supply and now Iran. Theyshare their technology with ours that in many ways is superior."THE LAVON AFFAIR, USS LIBERTY, JONATHAN POLLARD, LAVI FIHTER PROJECT (1) AND ON AND ON..."
What else would we expect to hear from yet another US funded Hasbara hireling?
Keep that American blood and America's $Trillions(2) flowing....Right?
America's most treacherous, parasitic and costliest welfare state is, in reality, America's most insidious enemy because of its enormous infestation of traitorous Zionist shills, disloyal "Israel First" government officials, "dual" citizens and AIPAC owned politicians.
Because of right wing Zionist control of Western MSM, most Americans have been professionally deceived into believing that the Islamic world poses a significant threat to Americans at home and abroad while remaining clueless as to the true cause of that alleged enmity. (3)
A little over 50 years ago when I walked and hitch-hiked around the Islamic Middle East, I enjoyed the generous hospitality of countless everyday Muslims who gave me rides, shelter and other life sustaining provisions along the way.
The kindness I experienced along the way continued in spite of the fact that I made no effort to hide the fact that I was an American.
In spite of that, my numerous Muslim hosts insisted on introducing me to their friends and family who had also never seen a Westerner and were fascinated by the U.S.: American movies, American cars, American music and everyday life in America.
The two questions I was most frequently asked by members of my small audience were:
1. "Why do Americans suddenly hate us?"
And:
2. "Why does America help the Israelis murder Palestinians and steal their land?"
Even though I tried to explain the enormous amount of control that the countless Israeli lobbies have over the U.S. government and the egregious pro Israel bias of U.S. media that deceives America's lazier individuals, they still couldn't understand how people as seemingly advanced and sophisticated as Americans could be so easily deceived, controlled and manipulated.
Now, over 50 years later, when most Americans oppose U.S. funded Zionist genocide, (4) I am still surprised at the number of gullible, lazy and poorly educated Americans who still know absolutely nothing about insatiable Zionist parasitism, U.S. funded Genocide, endless Israeli treachery and unrivaled Israeli betrayals.
While the U.S. Government's unconditional support for the most ruthless and brutal foreign funded Genocide in history has alerted many Americans to the treachery of Israel's "Mad Dog" (5) regional threat, America's traitorous politicians clearly remain loyal to their masters at AIPAC etc.
(1). "How Israel Has Betrayed America"
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/06/06/how-israel-has-betrayed-america/
EXCERPT "A recent report by Newsweek magazine that Israel has spied on the United States at “an alarming level” and has done so “more than any other ally does” raises a very serious issue concerning how much Israel has betrayed America, which is something that the American mainstream media have time and again refused to debate in public.
But this is not an isolated case, as “Israel has a long record of getting U.S. military technology to China. In the early 1990s then-CIA Director James Woolsey told a Senate Government Affairs Committee that Israel had been selling U.S. secrets to China for about a decade. More than 12 years ago the U.S. demanded Israel cancel a contract to supply China with Python III missiles, which included technology developed by the U.S. for its Sidewinder missiles, the Associated Press reported in 2002,” as Jordan wrote.
In addition, it is widely known that the U.S. was also angered when “Israel violated agreements by exporting restricted US technology it buys with yearly US subsidies. This was the case with the largely US-funded Lavi fighter-plane program. Israel…passed on technology to Beijing. China’s F-10 fighter jet is believed to be almost identical to the Lavi”—and the reason is that “Israel’s military industry is dependent on exports for its survival. And arms sales to China are among its most lucrative businesses,” in a report by The Insider."
CONTINUED
(2). "The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion". (as of 2002)
https://www.wrmea.org/003-june/the-...israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html
By Thomas R. Stauffer
EXCERPT "Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs each year."CONTINUED
(3). “Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”
– John Sheehan, Society of Jesus. (Jesuit priest)
(4). “The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds”
(5). "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds
Approval for Israel’s attack on Gaza has plummeted by 14 percent since November.
Moshe Dayan
Israel like America opposes the evil of Iran China and Russia. They buy our technology creating jobs. Its costs us nothing. They share their technology with us and thats how we got anti missile technology. arms and share the. improvements."THE LAVON AFFAIR, USS LIBERTY, JONATHAN POLLARD, LAVI FIHTER PROJECT (1) AND ON AND ON..."
What else would we expect to hear from yet another US funded Hasbara hireling?
Keep that American blood and America's $Trillions(2) flowing....Right?
America's most treacherous, parasitic and costliest welfare state is, in reality, America's most insidious enemy because of its enormous infestation of traitorous Zionist shills, disloyal "Israel First" government officials, "dual" citizens and AIPAC owned politicians.
Because of right wing Zionist control of Western MSM, most Americans have been professionally deceived into believing that the Islamic world poses a significant threat to Americans at home and abroad while remaining clueless as to the true cause of that alleged enmity. (3)
A little over 50 years ago when I walked and hitch-hiked around the Islamic Middle East, I enjoyed the generous hospitality of countless everyday Muslims who gave me rides, shelter and other life sustaining provisions along the way.
The kindness I experienced along the way continued in spite of the fact that I made no effort to hide the fact that I was an American.
In spite of that, my numerous Muslim hosts insisted on introducing me to their friends and family who had also never seen a Westerner and were fascinated by the U.S.: American movies, American cars, American music and everyday life in America.
The two questions I was most frequently asked by members of my small audience were:
1. "Why do Americans suddenly hate us?"
And:
2. "Why does America help the Israelis murder Palestinians and steal their land?"
Even though I tried to explain the enormous amount of control that the countless Israeli lobbies have over the U.S. government and the egregious pro Israel bias of U.S. media that deceives America's lazier individuals, they still couldn't understand how people as seemingly advanced and sophisticated as Americans could be so easily deceived, controlled and manipulated.
Now, over 50 years later, when most Americans oppose U.S. funded Zionist genocide, (4) I am still surprised at the number of gullible, lazy and poorly educated Americans who still know absolutely nothing about insatiable Zionist parasitism, U.S. funded Genocide, endless Israeli treachery and unrivaled Israeli betrayals.
While the U.S. Government's unconditional support for the most ruthless and brutal foreign funded Genocide in history has alerted many Americans to the treachery of Israel's "Mad Dog" (5) regional threat, America's traitorous politicians clearly remain loyal to their masters at AIPAC etc.
(1). "How Israel Has Betrayed America"
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/06/06/how-israel-has-betrayed-america/
EXCERPT "A recent report by Newsweek magazine that Israel has spied on the United States at “an alarming level” and has done so “more than any other ally does” raises a very serious issue concerning how much Israel has betrayed America, which is something that the American mainstream media have time and again refused to debate in public.
But this is not an isolated case, as “Israel has a long record of getting U.S. military technology to China. In the early 1990s then-CIA Director James Woolsey told a Senate Government Affairs Committee that Israel had been selling U.S. secrets to China for about a decade. More than 12 years ago the U.S. demanded Israel cancel a contract to supply China with Python III missiles, which included technology developed by the U.S. for its Sidewinder missiles, the Associated Press reported in 2002,” as Jordan wrote.
In addition, it is widely known that the U.S. was also angered when “Israel violated agreements by exporting restricted US technology it buys with yearly US subsidies. This was the case with the largely US-funded Lavi fighter-plane program. Israel…passed on technology to Beijing. China’s F-10 fighter jet is believed to be almost identical to the Lavi”—and the reason is that “Israel’s military industry is dependent on exports for its survival. And arms sales to China are among its most lucrative businesses,” in a report by The Insider."
CONTINUED
(2). "The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion". (as of 2002)
https://www.wrmea.org/003-june/the-...israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html
By Thomas R. Stauffer
EXCERPT "Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs each year."CONTINUED
(3). “Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”
– John Sheehan, Society of Jesus. (Jesuit priest)
(4). “The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds”
(5). "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds
Approval for Israel’s attack on Gaza has plummeted by 14 percent since November.
Moshe Dayan
Most of all together we destroyed the Iran problem and created the Abraham Accords preventing the fanatical genocidal Musl;ims who hate everything good in the world.
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Did you even listen to the video posted? What he said was: "...not a single person here who opposes the People of Israel on this land" (emphasis mine).There is a clear distinction being made about which people he is referring to.
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Ain't that the biggest lie I ever heard. If you love it so much, live there! America first!
Carl in Michigan
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JanetTheGreat can you refute that or is a "funny" all you got?
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The Church of Israel is a spiritual concept, it is not a literal piece of land on this Earth granted to a "Chosen" specific group of people. Jesus's message was for all people. Not just one specific group on one specific plot of land. That's very narrow thinking, if you actually believe a specific piece of land belongs to a specific group of people as ordained by God.
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There is no "Church of Israel"
Israel was prophecies to return after 2520 years in exile. That was fulfilled in 1948. Your Jew hatred clouds your ability to reason
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That is BS. Israel is an artificial construct, which has nothing to do with the Bible. If they truly believed in Christ, they would follow him and abandon their hatred of Christianity. They do not. They spit upon the name of Christ and do not accept his divinity. A nation that spits on the name of Christ is no chosen people.
Given the fact that you are this loyal to a foreign nation and show the inability to understand anything out of your religious beliefs, you are truly lost.
Carl in Michigan
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You don't know enough on this topic to have an informed opinion. It's like teaching a cow basic arithmetic
Is The Modern State Of Israel The Fulfillment Of Prophecy? - Chosen People Ministries
Even if we concede for the moment that the Jewish people’s continuing presence is evidence for the reliability of the Bible, we are well within our rights to
chosenpeople.com
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There will be a mass return of Jews to the land of Israel (Deuteronomy 30:3; Isaiah 43:6; Ezekiel 34:11-13; 36:24; 37:1-14).
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