Should Trump pardon his entire administration and his family from future "Lawfare" by democrats? (Poll)

[westwall]

We all saw how the democrats went after Trump using "Lawfare" after he declared he was running for president.
So whats to stop democrats from using Lawfare against JD Vance, and/or Pete Hegseth, and/or Marco Rubio, and/or Ron Desantis, and/or anyone acting on his behalf?

"Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell of California told “CNN News Central” co-host Kate Bolduan on Monday that House Democrats plan to go after private citizens working with the Trump administration..."

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Eric Swalwell Says Democrats Are Going to Target Private Citizens Who Have Worked with Trump​

We all also saw how the Biden autopen gave "preemptive pardons" to the Biden Family members, as well as his administration's enablers.

So let's imagine the next step. Trump writes a preemptive pardon like Biden, to cover his family, and everyone in his administration from prosecution for any actions taken between his inauguration day and his last day in office?

I saw democrats saying that they will prosecute National Guardsmen, ICE members, and anyone who their warped interpretation of lawfare says broke some law.

No, he should destroy the deep state so that they are never able to do that sort of bullshit ever again.

 

[davebb]

Your own family. Hell yes.

 

[Care4all]

He never had preemptive pardons, Biden is one of only four.

Clinton pardoned his buddy Rich, Obama pardoned traitor Manning.

FDR gave out the most pardons, followed by Truman, Eisenhower, Wilson, LBJ, Teddy Roosevelt, JFK, Obama, Clinton and then Trump.

Biden didn’t set the low bar, neither did Trump, it goes back decades but why try to raise the bar now, right?

Manafort, Stone, Bannon, Flynn...

I doubt FDRs pardons were personal...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That's not what I asked, Admiral. Unless those who were using that auto pen without his knowledge confessed (which I don't think is EVER going to happen!) it would be something impossible to prove. My question is do you think they did it?

Biden was incompetent. He could not have made those decisions. He just gave them a vague statement about meeting some "guidelines" and left it up to them. Unfortunately, unless he claims he never authorized the pardon, you have nothing to prosecute.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump will pardon hus family. Everyone else will have to pay for their pardons.

Your mental illness is amusing at least!

 

[whitehall]

Future pardons? That's a democrat gimmick.

 

[krichton]

We all saw how the democrats went after Trump using "Lawfare" after he declared he was running for president.
So whats to stop democrats from using Lawfare against JD Vance, and/or Pete Hegseth, and/or Marco Rubio, and/or Ron Desantis, and/or anyone acting on his behalf?

"Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell of California told “CNN News Central” co-host Kate Bolduan on Monday that House Democrats plan to go after private citizens working with the Trump administration..."

MSN

Eric Swalwell Says Democrats Are Going to Target Private Citizens Who Have Worked with Trump​

We all also saw how the Biden autopen gave "preemptive pardons" to the Biden Family members, as well as his administration's enablers.

So let's imagine the next step. Trump writes a preemptive pardon like Biden, to cover his family, and everyone in his administration from prosecution for any actions taken between his inauguration day and his last day in office?

I saw democrats saying that they will prosecute National Guardsmen, ICE members, and anyone who their warped interpretation of lawfare says broke some law.

What were the examples of democratic lawfare under Biden?

 

[kyzr]

No, he should destroy the deep state so that they are never able to do that sort of bullshit ever again.

I'm not sure that "Lawfare" against Trump was just the "deep state" or plain old democrats misusing their legal authority?
Letitia?, Bragg?, Fani? probably not deep state. Comey? probably was. Othrers in Biden's WH, who knows?

 

[kyzr]

What were the examples of democratic lawfare under Biden?

I'm not sure I have them all. General Flynn could be added.
1. The raid in Mar-A-Lago
2. Sending a prosecutor from the DOJ to help prosecute Trump in NYC
3. Fani Willis in GA
4. Letitia James' $500,000,000 fine for bullshit loan fraud, see link below
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[Mac1958]

What were the examples of democratic lawfare under Biden?

They'll have to call all the evidence we know about, all the information from all the indictments, all the Fifth Amendment pleadings, from all the cases, "fake news".

This is a cult.

 

[Mac1958]

Trump set the very, very, low bar before Biden...and in this Trump admin, he has been no better...pardoning 2 different paedophiles, all J6ers including violent ones, contemplating pardoning a sex trafficker of minors...Maxwell....

Just guessing, but it looks to me like we're too far into this now. It just has to play out. Either we go down the historical road or somehow we don't. The next main shoe to drop is when they figure they can stop pretending what this is. They won't do that until the flock is fully ready to.

 

[ColonelAngus]

He should. The blanket pardon precedent has been set.

TRUMP SHOULD GIVE BLANKET PARDONS TO EVERYONE IN HIS FAMILY AND ADMINISTRATION FOR ANYTHING THEY DID.

Lefties love blanket pardons.

Whose cocaine was in the White House? We will just NEVER KNOW.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Since the demented LEFT have chosen Stalinist LAWFARE to persecute political opponents, it would be irresponsible for Trump to not utilize the PRECEDENT set by the prior administration to blanket pardon EVERYONE that the communists might want to attack.
I don't like it, at all, but the bar has been set.

 

[Independent thinker]

We all saw how the democrats went after Trump using "Lawfare" after he declared he was running for president.
So whats to stop democrats from using Lawfare against JD Vance, and/or Pete Hegseth, and/or Marco Rubio, and/or Ron Desantis, and/or anyone acting on his behalf?

"Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell of California told “CNN News Central” co-host Kate Bolduan on Monday that House Democrats plan to go after private citizens working with the Trump administration..."

MSN

Eric Swalwell Says Democrats Are Going to Target Private Citizens Who Have Worked with Trump​

We all also saw how the Biden autopen gave "preemptive pardons" to the Biden Family members, as well as his administration's enablers.

So let's imagine the next step. Trump writes a preemptive pardon like Biden, to cover his family, and everyone in his administration from prosecution for any actions taken between his inauguration day and his last day in office?

I saw democrats saying that they will prosecute National Guardsmen, ICE members, and anyone who their warped interpretation of lawfare says broke some law.

Couldn't bring myself to answer yes because I'd like to think we are better than the other side. But, I do very strongly believe that if one party thinks they can do things then the other party should be able to do the same things as well.

 

[krichton]

I'm not sure I have them all. General Flynn could be added.
1. The raid in Mar-A-Lago

Trump stole top secret docs and nuclear secrets. The fact that the DOJ gave him 18 months to return it and he even ignored a subpeona at the end, pretty much justified the raid.

2. Sending a prosecutor from the DOJ to help prosecute Trump in NYC

Bragg hired Colangelo because he had worked in the NY AG's cases against the Trump foundation in 2018. A case that Trump lost. The DOJ cannot send someone from their office to work for Bragg. Colangelo is literally still working at the NY AG's office.

3. Fani Willis in GA

Trump attempted to overturn the results of the election in her state, which violated the RICO Act.

4. Letitia James' $500,000,000 fine for bullshit loan fraud, see link below

A court found Trump guilty of fraud. An appeals court upheld up that charge, but axed the 500 million fine. Regardless of how feel about the fine or the other things you've mentioned, Trump still broke the law in order for all those things to happen to him. That's what happens to criminals every day when they comment crimes. The law comes looking for them.

 

[Zincwarrior]

They will need the pardons. WHY ARE WE GIVING TRUMP'S BRO IN ARGENTINA FORTY BILLION DOLLARS?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Right, but still pretty far off. So I had to check.

You do see the title, right?

Yes, I saw the title, I dont see your point. You're trying to compare biden pardoning 2 from his administration vs trump pardoning everyone in his administration. Im saying I dont care, the numbers aren't the point, its the idea that a president could pardon anyone who might be subject to future litigation.

For the record, I dont think this practice is good, but if one can do it, why not the other?

 

[kyzr]

Trump stole top secret docs and nuclear secrets. The fact that the DOJ gave him 18 months to return it and he even ignored a subpoena at the end, pretty much justified the raid.

Stole is not the word you want. When he took them as president he owned them. I believe that the FBI went to MAL a few times before the raid and was told to take any classified documents they wanted. I also remember Clinton had classified tapes in his sock drawer and the court said they were his property. An FBI raid on an ex-president's residence with guns drawn is inexcusable.

Bragg hired Colangelo because he had worked in the NY AG's cases against the Trump foundation in 2018. A case that Trump lost. The DOJ cannot send someone from their office to work for Bragg. Colangelo is literally still working at the NY AG's office.

Bragg hired Colangelo because the WH told him to.

Trump attempted to overturn the results of the election in her state, which violated the RICO Act.

Or Trump wanted to verify the GA vote count.

A court found Trump guilty of fraud. An appeals court upheld up that charge, but axed the $500 million fine. Regardless of how feel about the fine or the other things you've mentioned, Trump still broke the law in order for all those things to happen to him. That's what happens to criminals every day when they comment crimes. The law comes looking for them.

A kangaroo court found Trump guilty, of a non-crime without a victim.
Trump's estimate of the value of his properties would be verified by the lender, Deutche Bank, that is their job, the court using outdated tax assessments of $18m was beyond ridiculous. The appeals court agreed with Trump, that Letitia James was trying to illegally bankrupt the Trump family using LAWFARE.

 

[Papageorgio]

Manafort, Stone, Bannon, Flynn...

I doubt FDRs pardons were personal...

Yes, but the low bar was set decades ago and we the American people let it go. Only know you want to raise it?

 

[krichton]

Stole is not the word you want. When he took them as president he owned them. I believe that the FBI went to MAL a few times before the raid and was told to take any classified documents they wanted. I also remember Clinton had classified tapes in his sock drawer and the court said they were his property. An FBI raid on an ex-president's residence with guns drawn is inexcusable.

No president owns classified docs and top secret files. You're talking about a dictator, not a president. I realize the former is what you would prefer, but we still live in a democracy, for now.

It is if you ignore a subpoena. Even with that said, was Trump ever led away in handcuffs? Was he even arrested? No one waits 18 months to just raid someone's home for stolen documents and then calls that "lawfare" and no one is even arrested. Clinton never possessed classified tapes, that is the key difference. And the tapes themselves were just interviews he did with a historian. This has already been ruled over by a court.

Bragg hired Colangelo because the WH told him to.

Then why is Colangelo still working there till this day? I'm perfectly willing to believe your claim, after you show me the evidence, i'll wait.

Or Trump wanted to verify the GA vote count.

By telling Raffensberger to "find" over 11k votes and sending fake electors to DC for Pence to sign off on, with fake documents??? That's 2 very completely topics.

A kangaroo court found Trump guilty, of a non-crime without a victim.
Trump's estimate of the value of his properties would be verified by the lender, Deutche Bank, that is their job, the court using outdated tax assessments of $18m was beyond ridiculous. The appeals court agreed with Trump, that Letitia James was trying to illegally bankrupt the Trump family using LAWFARE.

Let's be honest here, any court that finds Trump guilty of committing crimes he actually did is a kangaroo court in your eyes, because you want a dictator and dictators should not be subject to courts and legal proceedings.

They found the amount to be excessive but Trump is still liable for fraud. That has not changed.