Should Trump pardon his entire administration and his family from future "Lawfare" by democrats? (Poll)

[kyzr]

No president owns classified docs and top secret files. You're talking about a dictator, not a president. I realize the former is what you would prefer, but we still live in a democracy, for now.
It is if you ignore a subpoena. Even with that said, was Trump ever led away in handcuffs? Was he even arrested? No one waits 18 months to just raid someone's home for stolen documents and then calls that "lawfare" and no one is even arrested. Clinton never possessed classified tapes, that is the key difference. And the tapes themselves were just interviews he did with a historian. This has already been ruled over by a court.

Not to rehash this shit again, but the FBI could have taken any classified documents they wanted.

ABA Fact Check: Extent of Presidential Legal Authority to Declassify Materials Is Still Unclear

Most national security legal experts dismissed the former president’s suggestion that while in office he could declassify documents simply by thinking about it. But in theory, legal guidelines support his contention that a president has broad authority to formally declassify most documents that...

lawandcrime.com

Most national security legal experts dismissed the former president's suggestion that while in office he could declassify documents simply by thinking about it. But in theory, legal guidelines support his contention that a president has broad authority to formally declassify most documents that are not statutorily protected.

Then why is Colangelo still working there till this day? I'm perfectly willing to believe your claim, after you show me the evidence, i'll wait.

Because the Biden WH sent him there and he has nowhere else to go.

By telling Raffensberger to "find" over 11k votes and sending fake electors to DC for Pence to sign off on, with fake documents??? That's 2 very completely topics.

So why isn't Trump in prison? We have the mug shot.

Let's be honest here, any court that finds Trump guilty of committing crimes he actually did is a kangaroo court in your eyes, because you want a dictator and dictators should not be subject to courts and legal proceedings.

I already showed you a law professor's take on the travesty of justice in that NYC kangaroo court, didn't I? Well, here it is:

Buzz Kill: The Trump Conviction Presents a Target-Rich Environment for Appeal

Below is my column in the Hill on the most compelling grounds for an appeal in the Trump case after his conviction on 34 counts in Manhattan. There has been considerable criticism of the defense te…

jonathanturley.org

Being honest here, after the ******* AG runs on "getting Trump", and in a venue where being Republican is a crime, I'll let justice play out in the appeals courts. You should accept the appeals court decision and not the kangaroo court's.

They found the amount to be excessive but Trump is still liable for fraud. That has not changed.

So when Letitia James is sent to prison for mortgage fraud, you'll still say guilty is guilty?

p.s. fraud with no victim. Is that a non-sequitor?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just guessing, but it looks to me like we're too far into this now. It just has to play out. Either we go down the historical road or somehow we don't. The next main shoe to drop is when they figure they can stop pretending what this is. They won't do that until the flock is fully ready to.

When the orange slob drops dead, things will change pretty quickly.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I already showed you a law professor's take on the travesty of justice in that NYC kangaroo court, didn't I?

Which is hilarious, considering Trump actually had very expensive lawyers in court.

But you think some guy writing an op-ed to fleece the MAGA sheep would have done better.

Good stuff.

 

[Invisibleflash]

I would be surprised if he didn't.

That's where things are headed: Zero accountability.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We all saw how the democrats went after Trump using "Lawfare" after he declared he was running for president.
So whats to stop democrats from using Lawfare against JD Vance, and/or Pete Hegseth, and/or Marco Rubio, and/or Ron Desantis, and/or anyone acting on his behalf?

"Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell of California told “CNN News Central” co-host Kate Bolduan on Monday that House Democrats plan to go after private citizens working with the Trump administration..."

MSN

Eric Swalwell Says Democrats Are Going to Target Private Citizens Who Have Worked with Trump​

We all also saw how the Biden autopen gave "preemptive pardons" to the Biden Family members, as well as his administration's enablers.

So let's imagine the next step. Trump writes a preemptive pardon like Biden, to cover his family, and everyone in his administration from prosecution for any actions taken between his inauguration day and his last day in office?

I saw democrats saying that they will prosecute National Guardsmen, ICE members, and anyone who their warped interpretation of lawfare says broke some law.

They will, of course, as well as using voter registration rolls to go after republican voters. The answer isn't a flurry of pardons. The answer is to obliterate the democrats so that they can't win any elections at all.

 

[skews13]

We all saw how the democrats went after Trump using "Lawfare" after he declared he was running for president.
So whats to stop democrats from using Lawfare against JD Vance, and/or Pete Hegseth, and/or Marco Rubio, and/or Ron Desantis, and/or anyone acting on his behalf?

"Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell of California told “CNN News Central” co-host Kate Bolduan on Monday that House Democrats plan to go after private citizens working with the Trump administration..."

MSN

Eric Swalwell Says Democrats Are Going to Target Private Citizens Who Have Worked with Trump​

We all also saw how the Biden autopen gave "preemptive pardons" to the Biden Family members, as well as his administration's enablers.

So let's imagine the next step. Trump writes a preemptive pardon like Biden, to cover his family, and everyone in his administration from prosecution for any actions taken between his inauguration day and his last day in office?

I saw democrats saying that they will prosecute National Guardsmen, ICE members, and anyone who their warped interpretation of lawfare says broke some law.

You can’t be pardoned for lawfare. That’s a made up term used by criminals. You can only be pardoned for crimes.

So what crimes will all of these people be pardoned for?

Please be specific with federal codes.

 

[krichton]

Not to rehash this shit again, but the FBI could have taken any classified documents they wanted.

ABA Fact Check: Extent of Presidential Legal Authority to Declassify Materials Is Still Unclear

Most national security legal experts dismissed the former president’s suggestion that while in office he could declassify documents simply by thinking about it. But in theory, legal guidelines support his contention that a president has broad authority to formally declassify most documents that...

lawandcrime.com

Most national security legal experts dismissed the former president's suggestion that while in office he could declassify documents simply by thinking about it. But in theory, legal guidelines support his contention that a president has broad authority to formally declassify most documents that are not statutorily protected.

That article makes it clear, that declassification still needs to go through a procedure and must be legal, and cannot happen in one's own head, which mirrors what I've learned about it in the past. All the agencies that classified the material must be notified for them to review it. None of this happened before Trump stole all of it for knows what nefarious reason.

For nuclear secrets, they can never be declassified, by anyone.

Because the Biden WH sent him there and he has nowhere else to go.

I'm waiting for that evidence.

So why isn't Trump in prison? We have the mug shot.

Because he became president, and now the Supreme court has ruled that presidents are now above the law, not unlike a dictator.

I already showed you a law professor's take on the travesty of justice in that NYC kangaroo court, didn't I? Well, here it is:

Buzz Kill: The Trump Conviction Presents a Target-Rich Environment for Appeal

Below is my column in the Hill on the most compelling grounds for an appeal in the Trump case after his conviction on 34 counts in Manhattan. There has been considerable criticism of the defense te…

jonathanturley.org

Being honest here, after the ******* AG runs on "getting Trump", and in a venue where being Republican is a crime, I'll let justice play out in the appeals courts. You should accept the appeals court decision and not the kangaroo court's.

I've accepted their decision. They say that Trump is liable for fraud. All they did was strike down the dollar amount of the lawsuit. You should accept their decision as well.

So when Letitia James is sent to prison for mortgage fraud, you'll still say guilty is guilty?

p.s. fraud with no victim. Is that a non-sequitur?

If she committed a crime then absolutely! Anyone who commits crimes punishable by jail should go straight to prison, even if they're the president. I don't give two ***** who they are, or which freaking party they belong to.

 

[kyzr]

That article makes it clear, that declassification still needs to go through a procedure and must be legal, and cannot happen in one's own head, which mirrors what I've learned about it in the past. All the agencies that classified the material must be notified for them to review it. None of this happened before Trump stole all of it for knows what nefarious reason.
For nuclear secrets, they can never be declassified, by anyone.

whatever, they probably have a few pair of Melania's panties too...sniff.

Because he became president, and now the Supreme court has ruled that presidents are now above the law, not unlike a dictator.

Wrong. Only for" official actions".

I've accepted their decision. They say that Trump is liable for fraud. All they did was strike down the dollar amount of the lawsuit. You should accept their decision as well.

So how can you have fraud if no one was defrauded? Deutche Bank was happy with the transaction.

If she committed a crime then absolutely! Anyone who commits crimes punishable by jail should go straight to prison, even if they're the president. I don't give two ***** who they are, or which freaking party they belong to.

thx. lets hope orange is the new black