Should Trump Insist on his Constitutional Right to Speedy Trials?

[Harpy Eagle]

Again, I ask. What rule did Trump trie to make up? Where did he say anything about making a new rule?

Well he did say that having a sitting president under criminal investigation would result in a “constitutional crisis., and thus people should not vote for said person

 

[meaner gene]

We know who is above the law and Trump is not one of those people.

Exactly the point.

Trump has to answer to the law ASAP, just like anybody else.

 

[Lastamender]

Exactly the point.

Trump has to answer to the law ASAP, just like anybody else.

So there are people above the law? Yes or no? Because it is a fact many answer to no one.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

No I haven't because as I've said, it's too early to pay attention to an election 16 months out.

Man, you must have low stress levels.

I should take your advice!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I think you mean that he could pardon himself. Unless you really think that a sitting president cannot be found guilty if his trial is ongoing when he takes office? If so, where did you get that idea?

The same place I get the idea a sitting POTUS cannot be indicted. It seems to be DOJ standard.

Then he was going to announce, regardless of the indictment, so the claim that he is running due to the indictment is absurd.

Correct, but he is no saying he should get out of the due to him running, and people like yourself have been pushing the same narrative

 

[meaner gene]

So Trump has no interest in being president again?

Actually Trump wants to be elected DICTATOR.

Commanding the federal government to serve his will. And protect his ass.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Actually Trump wants to be elected DICTATOR.

Commanding the federal government to serve his will.

Only the Executive Branch.

Most of its alphabet agency appendages have only been around since the Roosevelt* era, and it's perfectly Constitutional to reign them in if you are the President.

*Franklin, not Teddy.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

President Trump probably wants to have this dragged out through the election. The Fake Trials are sucking all of the oxygen out of the room for other candidates, making everyone else irrelevant.

I assure you that the trials are quite real. Trump knows it too. Maybe he’ll do fake jail time as well.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Maybe he’ll do fake jail time as well.

Considering your guys' years long track record on predicting his jail time, it's most likely he won't do any.

But thanks for playing.

 

[meaner gene]

So there are people above the law? Yes or no? Because it is a fact many answer to no one.

The Depart of Justice Office of Legal Counsel, takes the position that a sitting president is in fact "ABOVE THE LAW"

That to subject a sitting president to the law, he must be impeached, convicted, and removed from office, at which point, the constitution specifically then makes the ex-president answerable to the law.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

There are so many loopholes in federal criminal procedure that the "right to a speedy trial," can be easily denied federal defendants.

The OP misunderstands that the right is the defendant's, not those who who want to see Trump jailed before the election.


You have it backwards in the case of Trump. Trump did not get indicted for a crime and then declare his candidacy in order to get out of the charges. Trump declared his candidacy and was the frontrunner for the opposition party. Then the party in power indicted him in order to get him out of the election.

Great. Now show us where the prosecutor has delayed any proceedings thus far.
Trump declared after his NY indictment and after he knew he was going to be indicted federally.

 

[Lastamender]

The Depart of Justice Office of Legal Counsel, takes the position that a sitting president is in fact "ABOVE THE LAW"

That to subject a sitting president to the law, he must be impeached, convicted, and removed from office, at which point, the constitution specifically then makes the ex-president answerable to the law.

I am talking about people who lied under oath to Congess and not been held accountable. They include Fauci, Comey, Clapper, Brennan and McCabe. Those people are above the law. That is a fact.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Yes.

There are plenty of other issue, but it would be great if this could be a referendum on whether the voters want the government to continue to be weaponized against political enemies.

If he wins, Trump needs to be the bigger man and not let it continue to be weaponized, but turned on his opponents.

Weaponized?
Is all of the evidence fake? Are all of the witnesses, most of whom are former Trump aids and officials, all in on it?
Get real, loon.
Trump is a criminal. Bigly!

 

[meaner gene]

Only the Executive Branch.

Most of its alphabet agency appendages have only been around since the Roosevelt* era, and it's perfectly Constitutional to reign them in if you are the President.

*Franklin, not Teddy.

The presidents control is over choosing who will run them, and his ability to remove them for cause. (or without cause). Not to run them from out of the white house.

That's why they're called "Independent" agencies.

 

[g5000]

Don't try to flip the script

Trump is saying that you can't TRY a candidate until after the election.

And of course if elected president, Trump would be protected because can't TRY a sitting president.

He would also appoint lickspittles to the DOJ who would dismiss the cases against him.

 

[meaner gene]

I am talking about people who lied under oath to Congess and not been held accountable. They include Fauci, Comey, Clapper, Brennan and McCabe. Those people are above the law. That is a fact.

You left out Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Thomas.

 

[Lastamender]

You left out Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Thomas.

Can you prove they lied? No you can't. But go ahead and try.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

The presidents control is over choosing who will run them, and his ability to remove them for cause. (or without cause). Not to run them from out of the white house.

That's why they're called "Independent" agencies.

They were created by the Executive Branch, and that's where the rules were fostered.

They are not Constitutionally sanctioned in any way, shape or form.

And the reality is, right now they are full of Left wing toadies.

It's called "Drain the Swamp".

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Considering your guys' years long track record on predicting his jail time, it's most likely he won't do any.

But thanks for playing.

71 felony counts.( so far). Most of which carry mandatory minimums.
You can hope for your fantasy but you best prepare for your worst nightmare at the same time.

 

[g5000]

So, if running prior to or around the same time as being indicted is not proof that running is for the purpose of dodging the charges, what is you proof that this is what Trump did?

Again, I ask. What rule did Trump trie to make up? Where did he say anything about making a new rule?

Trump is calling his indictments "election interference" which is the epitome of irony coming from the world's worst sore loser who tried to overthrow an election he lost.

"Election interference" is illegal. Trump is hoaxing the rubes that his indictments are illegal, thus he is trying to make a new rule.