Should The Rich Be Required To Pay Higher Taxes In the US?

Our industry has went to China. Who's fault is that?

Our middle-class has become smaller. Median family wages has dropped under Obama.

We went from one of the best education systems? When was that?

Student debt is through the roof. Could it be because supply and demand dictates the cost of college and always has? You know, those colleges mostly run by liberals?

The rich are making record profits. What's wrong with that? If they made less profit, how would that help you?

Our infrastructure has gone to ship. Who's fault is that? Do you suppose it has anything to do with union costs to repair and rebuild roads and bridges?

Industry to China, whose fault? The Chinese for opening up their economy and being able to produce things cheaper than America would even be able to do?

Middle class becoming smaller? Doubtful, maybe slightly smaller because of the recession, hardly Obama's fault, but will probably go back to similar levels later one.

Student debt is something that has existed for a long time. Universities have to make their money, they can't run on thin air. The issue of whether they're cheap/free or expensive is down to government subsidies.

The rich are making record profits due to a recession that was helped along massively by two majorly expensive wars.

The infrastructure is all about spending money on it. But as many people, especially the right, call for lower taxes, that means less money to spend on infrastructure.
The right makes it seem like we should have simply goaded the Chinese into an industrial automation race to make their form of socialism work better.

No, but if not for unions that guaranteed floor sweepers $18.00 per hour plus benefits, many of those jobs could have remained in the US. Then you add on taxes, regulations and environmental choke holds, you have all the necessary ingredients to move jobs out of the country.

Prior to that Republicans did put out the warning signs for years, but they were ignored. They told the public that the Republicans were only looking out for their rich buddies. Ignore them. They have no idea what they are talking about. Unions were indestructible.

That's why everything today is made in China. But instead of blaming who was responsible, all we hear from the left is our jobs are overseas because the evil rich man only wanted to get richer; the same left that shop at Wal-Mart every week.

Spot on Ray, but the left will never accept they were part of the problem.
The problem is the left in China may be having to wade through "molasses on a cold winter day" to get to the point where their labor can simply engender an entitlement to more developed public sector goods and services in their more developed economy to help make their labor more expensive to compete with our more expensive labor.
 
I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.
You mean the way they do now?

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why is being taxed what one is worth a problem for alleged capitalists, under any form of Capitalism? equality is a social concept not a capital concept.
 
I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.
You mean the way they do now?

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why is being taxed what one is worth a problem for alleged capitalists, under any form of Capitalism? equality is a social concept not a capital concept.

Legal, at-will Poverty. enForced by founding FATHers. With a side of case law.
 
Paying for the finest tax rates in the world should be a source of capital pride (of ownership) for Persons of wealth.


Yea right, having your money taken by force to be given away to welfare queens should make anybody beam with pride.
 
Our industry has went to China. Who's fault is that?

Our middle-class has become smaller. Median family wages has dropped under Obama.

We went from one of the best education systems? When was that?

Student debt is through the roof. Could it be because supply and demand dictates the cost of college and always has? You know, those colleges mostly run by liberals?

The rich are making record profits. What's wrong with that? If they made less profit, how would that help you?

Our infrastructure has gone to ship. Who's fault is that? Do you suppose it has anything to do with union costs to repair and rebuild roads and bridges?

Industry to China, whose fault? The Chinese for opening up their economy and being able to produce things cheaper than America would even be able to do?

Middle class becoming smaller? Doubtful, maybe slightly smaller because of the recession, hardly Obama's fault, but will probably go back to similar levels later one.

Student debt is something that has existed for a long time. Universities have to make their money, they can't run on thin air. The issue of whether they're cheap/free or expensive is down to government subsidies.

The rich are making record profits due to a recession that was helped along massively by two majorly expensive wars.

The infrastructure is all about spending money on it. But as many people, especially the right, call for lower taxes, that means less money to spend on infrastructure.
The right makes it seem like we should have simply goaded the Chinese into an industrial automation race to make their form of socialism work better.

No, but if not for unions that guaranteed floor sweepers $18.00 per hour plus benefits, many of those jobs could have remained in the US. Then you add on taxes, regulations and environmental choke holds, you have all the necessary ingredients to move jobs out of the country.

Prior to that Republicans did put out the warning signs for years, but they were ignored. They told the public that the Republicans were only looking out for their rich buddies. Ignore them. They have no idea what they are talking about. Unions were indestructible.

That's why everything today is made in China. But instead of blaming who was responsible, all we hear from the left is our jobs are overseas because the evil rich man only wanted to get richer; the same left that shop at Wal-Mart every week.

The reason things are made in China is because a person can easily live off of $300 a month in China. So you can pay people $300, $400 a month. In the US this is impossible.

Everyone knows this. Everyone knows the US should have workers who are earning more because they're producing higher quality goods or doing other things that earn more money. But no, the US hasn't figured this out and hasn't moved education to meet the needs.

Both Reps AND Dems are responsible for this.

Yanno, there are tons of affordable (Community Colleges, State Universities) higher educational options in this country yet 7% (down from 14% in 2000) don't even finish high school. It's not the lack of education opportunities in America but rather the lack of people who want one in something other than Fine Arts or Philosophy or Underwater Basket Weaving. Not everything is the gov'ts fault or responsibility. Parents are responsible for failing to guide their kids.
 
Well, you're an idiot, so that makes sense to you.

So tell us, what percentage of total income did you pay in federal tax for 2014?

Federal tax ÷ total income=?

I'll start. Thanks to Republicans, I personally paid zero.
Thanks to a "tax loophole", I don't even have to file a tax return; and, it didn't cost me anything. Is it any wonder the wealthier complain about having to lobby Congress for their tax loopholes.

Having no income to claim is not a "tax Loophole," Princess, and while I've lived here a long time I have never heard "the wealthier complain about having to lobby Congress for their tax loopholes."
 
Paying for the finest tax rates in the world...

You are a WINNER!!!
That is hands down the dimmest statement of the day and while it's only 9:45am I am shutting down today's competition 'cause there's just no way anyone can beat that. Congrats!
 
Paying for the finest tax rates in the world should be a source of capital pride (of ownership) for Persons of wealth.


Yea right, having your money taken by force to be given away to welfare queens should make anybody beam with pride.

There is no force, people pay taxes and people die - two basic truths.

Welfare Queens is a term from the past, when AFDC was replaced by TANF the rules changed. Try to keep up, and if you have, stop lying.
 
Paying for the finest tax rates in the world should be a source of capital pride (of ownership) for Persons of wealth.


Yea right, having your money taken by force to be given away to welfare queens should make anybody beam with pride.

There is no force, people pay taxes and people die - two basic truths.

Welfare Queens is a term from the past, when AFDC was replaced by TANF the rules changed. Try to keep up, and if you have, stop lying.

Tell you what stop paying all your taxes and tell us what happens.
 
Paying for the finest tax rates in the world should be a source of capital pride (of ownership) for Persons of wealth.


Yea right, having your money taken by force to be given away to welfare queens should make anybody beam with pride.

There is no force, people pay taxes and people die - two basic truths.

Welfare Queens is a term from the past, when AFDC was replaced by TANF the rules changed. Try to keep up, and if you have, stop lying.

Wait ... you're saying people pay taxes willingly, even eagerly, free from threat of draconian gov't sanctions enforced at gunpoint? Really?
Stop lying.
 
Yanno, there are tons of affordable (Community Colleges, State Universities) higher educational options in this country yet 7% (down from 14% in 2000) don't even finish high school. It's not the lack of education opportunities in America but rather the lack of people who want one in something other than Fine Arts or Philosophy or Underwater Basket Weaving. Not everything is the gov'ts fault or responsibility. Parents are responsible for failing to guide their kids.

I'm not saying it isn't the parents' fault for not guiding their kids.

However if the parents had bad parents and never learned to be good parents, how are they going to teach their kids?

In the past there were lots of small communities. People worked together, families were generally strong and supported each other. I grew up with a father from one side of the country, a mother from the other and me from somewhere else. My grandparents weren't on hand if the situation arose where they would be needed. In many families there's a single parent, usually mother, who's working all the hours there are in order to just give their kids food on the table. They don't have time to bring them up properly as well.
As much as it's a great slogan to say that parents should bring their kids up properly, the reality is many don't. So what should we do about it?
The right say nothing. Why? Probably because good parents want their kids to do well in life and if your kids are competing against a bunch of low lifes who single parent mother didn't have time and they didn't finish high school, then all the better, right? Well until they get shot by such a low life that is.

The left say do something. Often they come up with stuff that sounds nice but also doesn't work well. Or something goes wrong somewhere.
This appears to be the problem of the US system whereby politicians are just generally useless human beings.

So the siege mentality kicks in and it's taking the US downhill. Wouldn't surprise me if the US becomes more like Honduras and Mexico with each passing moment. I felt like that the first time I went to DC. Now it's just getting worse. Everyone's in it for themselves. Society is fragmenting and breaking up because no one gives a damn about anyone else any more.
 
Paying for the finest tax rates in the world should be a source of capital pride (of ownership) for Persons of wealth.


Yea right, having your money taken by force to be given away to welfare queens should make anybody beam with pride.
If Capitalists of wealth had more Capital pride, they would be happy to pay the best tax rates in the world, even if they are not from Saks Fifth Avenue.
 
Paying for the finest tax rates in the world should be a source of capital pride (of ownership) for Persons of wealth.


Yea right, having your money taken by force to be given away to welfare queens should make anybody beam with pride.
If Capitalists of wealth had more Capital pride, they would be happy to pay the best tax rates in the world, even if they are not from Saks Fifth Avenue.

The Socialist dictating how others should think. Interesting.
 
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Paying for the finest tax rates in the world should be a source of capital pride (of ownership) for Persons of wealth.


Yea right, having your money taken by force to be given away to welfare queens should make anybody beam with pride.

There is no force, people pay taxes and people die - two basic truths.

Welfare Queens is a term from the past, when AFDC was replaced by TANF the rules changed. Try to keep up, and if you have, stop lying.

Tell you what stop paying all your taxes and tell us what happens.

Why would I do that? I want the government to provide provide services consistent with the vision statement, aka, the Preamble to the COTUS.

I want local police and fire, special districts to make sure water and air are clean, vector control and sewage removal, flood controls and the dozens of other things done by local and state workers.

You don't and I find that insane.
 
Due to the enormous corruption and cronyism in our federal government, many wealthy use their expensive lawyers to get out of paying taxes. The current tax code is 70k pages...time for a change.

Let's go to a simple flat tax. That would eliminate the political class' efforts to enrich their donors/owners.
Flat tax would never go through.
The left wants to not pay tax and have the total burden put on others. A flat tax would make everyone pay. ( think fair share )
Those that pay the least are also the ones that create the highest cost to society.
 
Due to the enormous corruption and cronyism in our federal government, many wealthy use their expensive lawyers to get out of paying taxes. The current tax code is 70k pages...time for a change.

Let's go to a simple flat tax. That would eliminate the political class' efforts to enrich their donors/owners.
Flat tax would never go through.
The left wants to not pay tax and have the total burden put on others. A flat tax would make everyone pay. ( think fair share )
Those that pay the least are also the ones that create the highest cost to society.
Maybe.

The left loves to talk about the glory days before Reagan, when the tax rates went up to 70%. Of course, they fail to mention that the poor and middle class paid a higher percentage of the income tax than they do today.
 
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There is no force, people pay taxes and people die - two basic truths.

Welfare Queens is a term from the past, when AFDC was replaced by TANF the rules changed. Try to keep up, and if you have, stop lying.

Bullshit.

You take away the force and see how many people pay their taxes then.

Welfare queens describes the multigenerational welfare recipients, assholes too sorry or irresponsible to work, illegals aliens on welfare, anybody getting a subsidy or bailout and those countries we give foreign aid to or fight their wars for them. It is a lot of people.
 

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