Should the IHRA defition of antisemitism become US law?

[Churchill]

I interpreted nothing. I addressed no quote. I demanded nothing. I suggested that one should take care and have sensitivity when using such accusations against historically oppressed peoples so as not to cause harm (whether intentional or unintentional).

All people should be treated with the same respect and courtesy. Implying special treatment is warranted on the basis of claimed ancestral persecution is exceptionalism, something all colonialist powers have demanded for centuries.

Britain was under a Roman occupation for 400 years, the Romans slaughtered over a quarter of a million people in my country, about 10% of the population. Walk around Britain you'll see Roman remains all over the place.

The requirement for intent is written in the Bill. There are certain tropes which are more sensitive to some collectives because of their historical oppression. It isn't only true for the Jewish people. Comments about being shackled or lynched is going to hit much differently for Black-Americans than it will to other collectives.

Suggesting anyone should be shackled or lynched is reprehensible.

 

[Churchill]

Oh, look. Thank you. Fantastic example of using the dual loyalty/disloyalty trope to create a sense of threat and accusation of the Jewish hidden agenda.

Your words not mine. The Zionist lobby, AIPAC, ADL are not operating in secret, there activities are well known, the abuse of people's rights by demanding they refrain from boycotting a specific foreign regime are visible to anyone who cares to look.

Recall too that the ADL were condemned by many Jewish groups for insisting Elon Musk did not make a Nazi salute, such is the perversely politucal nature of their activities.

 

[Churchill]

There is no campaign to criminalize criticism of Israel.

Another interpretation, read it again, the article Campaign to Criminalize Criticism of Israel is published in a scholarly Jewish journal that predates the existence of the state of Israel, been around for 84 years.

Since when did you get a mandate to represent other Jews? I suggest you write to their board of directors or perhaps even their Executive Director, Rabbi Kahn and express your disapproval with their antisemitic articles or better still attend a local meeting with them and get enlightened.

Its rather surprising too that I'm more acutely aware of the diveristy of Jewish opinions on Israel than you seem to be.

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Now explain why you support employment contracts in the United States making employment contingent on signing a refusal to boycott a specific foreign regime - Israel?

 

[Mac-7]

There are those in US government who seek to pass the Antisemitism Awareness Act (H.R. 1007, S. 558) and make it US law, what do you think of the act and why.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1007/text

The bill seeks to mandate the IHRA into law

What is antisemitism? | IHRA working definition

What is antisemitism? The IHRA working definition helps governments, educators, and institutions identify and counter antisemitism all over the world.

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Off hand I dont think we need new laws

Just enforce the laws we have now

 

[dblack]

No

 

[Invisibleflash]

There are those in US government who seek to pass the Antisemitism Awareness Act (H.R. 1007, S. 558) and make it US law, what do you think of the act and why.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1007/text

The bill seeks to mandate the IHRA into law

What is antisemitism? | IHRA working definition

What is antisemitism? The IHRA working definition helps governments, educators, and institutions identify and counter antisemitism all over the world.

holocaustremembrance.com

I think they are fucked Jew shills. But maybe MAGAts will would like a change in menu from licking Trump's ass to nursing on Jew dick. That what it amounts to, bub. Any Awareness Act should be about awareness on how Jews control American politics, bub. Every politician in D.C has a Jew hander to make sure they vote Jew first.

 

[Shusha]

Another interpretation, read it again, the article Campaign to Criminalize Criticism of Israel...

Where is the criticism of Israel in that article?

 

[Churchill]

Where is the criticism of Israel in that article?

I won't do your reading for you, if you're struggling to understand the article then write to the authors, they'll be happy to help a fellow Jew, I'm sure.

Who knows, they might even be able to cure your Zionism, one can always hope.

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[Shusha]

I won't do your reading for you, if you're struggling to understand the article then write to the authors, they'll be happy to help a fellow Jew, I'm sure.

I read the article. It is about economic sanctions, not about shutting down criticism of Israel.

 

[Churchill]

I read the article. It is about economic sanctions, not about shutting down criticism of Israel.

As I said you are struggling to actually understand the article, so reach out with your questions to the people who wrote the piece.

Why won't you do that? it's trivial and the obvious step to take.

 

[Shusha]

As I said you are struggling to understand the article, so reach out with your question to the people who wrote the piece.

Why won't you do that? it's trivial and the obvious step to take.

Enough with the personal insults. You can do better.

I am vehemently against shutting down, let alone criminalizing, the criticism of Israel (or any State or government). That is a fundamental issue of free speech. End of.

Causing economic harm to an allied State, one that the US does not sanction and is (so far) against sanctioning while being employed by the government of the US hits a little differently for me.

 

[Churchill]

Enough with the personal insults. You can do better.

I am vehemently against shutting down, let alone criminalizing, the criticism of Israel (or any State or government). That is a fundamental issue of free speech. End of.

Causing economic harm to an allied State, one that the US does not sanction and is (so far) against sanctioning while being employed by the government of the US hits a little differently for me.

Do you feel such laws should be generalized? that is not be specifically concerned about boycotting just Israel?

 

[Shusha]

Do you feel such laws should be generalized? that is not be specifically concerned about boycotting just Israel?

I could agree to that. Government employees signing a waiver that they will not economically sanction any States that are not economically sanctioned by the US.

Edited to add: I don't know that there are any other widespread economic boycotts against other countries.

 

[marvin martian]

it is neither. It is an observation.

Anything more than a binary yes/no is going to confuse the dumb Nazis like Churchill

 

[ShahdagMountains]