Zone1 should the Catholic Church have women priests as well?

[Papageorgio]

tell me

I’m not Catholic, that is why I am asking, you want opinions you want input but you refuse to answer questions, you seem to like to troll.

 

[Zebra]

I’m not Catholic, that is why I am asking, you want opinions you want input but you refuse to answer questions, you seem to like to troll.

i have said my reason in #1

 

[Papageorgio]

i have said my reason in #1

I am not asking for your reason, I am asking what Biblical reason does the Catholic Church have for having only men as priests? Aren’t you Catholic?

 

[ding]

I am not asking for your reason, I am asking what Biblical reason does the Catholic Church have for having only men as priests? Aren’t you Catholic?

In Catholicism, scripture is the inspired Word of God, a foundational source of faith that provides the narrative framework for God's saving plan and the teachings of Jesus Christ. However, scripture is understood in the context of Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium (the teaching authority of the Church), which together form the "pillars" of Catholic belief, with Tradition and the Church predating and defining the scriptures themselves.

The Church, which existed before the Bible and compiled it, interprets scripture through the lens of Sacred Tradition and the ongoing teaching authority of the Magisterium.

 

[Papageorgio]

In Catholicism, scripture is the inspired Word of God, a foundational source of faith that provides the narrative framework for God's saving plan and the teachings of Jesus Christ. However, scripture is understood in the context of Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium (the teaching authority of the Church), which together form the "pillars" of Catholic belief, with Tradition and the Church predating and defining the scriptures themselves.

The Church, which existed before the Bible and compiled it, interprets scripture through the lens of Sacred Tradition and the ongoing teaching authority of the Magisterium.

So there is no biblical reason for priest to be men, just because they decide to?

 

[ding]

So there is no biblical reason for priest to be men, just because they decide to?

I don’t think the Church would agree with that. I think they would point to the apostles being all male. Ergo sacred tradition. Which in all cases is tied to scripture in some manner or degree.

 

[Papageorgio]

I don’t think the Church would agree with that. I think they would point to the apostles being all male. Ergo sacred tradition. Which in all cases is tied to scripture in some manner or degree.

So the apostles all being male is their biblical reason?

 

[ding]

So the apostles all being male is their biblical reason?

The early Church Fathers established an all-male priesthood due to the example of Jesus and the Apostles, who were all men, and a tradition that the priest acts in the persona of Jesus as the bridegroom to the Church. They believed that being male was essential for this specific role, a teaching they derived from their interpretation of Scripture and the continuous tradition of the Church.

Here's a breakdown of the reasons:

• Jesus's Example:
  Jesus himself chose only men to be his twelve Apostles.
  
  
• Apostolic Tradition:
  The Apostles followed Jesus's example, deliberately choosing men for the priesthood.
  
  
• Christ as Bridegroom:
  The Church teaches that the priest acts in the person of Christ as the bridegroom to the Church, the bride. Therefore, a male priest is necessary to represent this relationship.
  
  
• Biblical Interpretation:
  The Early Church Fathers interpreted Scripture in ways that reserved the ordained priesthood for men, as the priest is seen as the representative of Christ.
  
  
• Unbroken Tradition:
  The consistent practice and teaching of the Church throughout its history have maintained the reservation of priestly ordination to men.
  
  

 

[Papageorgio]

The early Church Fathers established an all-male priesthood due to the example of Jesus and the Apostles, who were all men, and a tradition that the priest acts in the persona of Jesus as the bridegroom to the Church. They believed that being male was essential for this specific role, a teaching they derived from their interpretation of Scripture and the continuous tradition of the Church.

Here's a breakdown of the reasons:

• Jesus's Example:
  Jesus himself chose only men to be his twelve Apostles.
  
  
• Apostolic Tradition:
  The Apostles followed Jesus's example, deliberately choosing men for the priesthood.
  
  
• Christ as Bridegroom:
  The Church teaches that the priest acts in the person of Christ as the bridegroom to the Church, the bride. Therefore, a male priest is necessary to represent this relationship.
  
  
• Biblical Interpretation:
  The Early Church Fathers interpreted Scripture in ways that reserved the ordained priesthood for men, as the priest is seen as the representative of Christ.
  
  
• Unbroken Tradition:
  The consistent practice and teaching of the Church throughout its history have maintained the reservation of priestly ordination to men.
  

So it was a conclusion based on interpretation, that makes sense.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Catholicism should be declared a cult and enemies of humanity and have it's tax-free zone eliminated.

Catholicism goes back to the FIRST century and continues (though not in the Vatican)

When did "the father of Protestantism" come along?

15+ centuries later.

Luther did not invent Christianity. Jesus did.

If you keep fighting against Christ's Church... Well, I guess we'll see how that ends for you...

 

[ding]

So it was a conclusion based on interpretation, that makes sense.

From the very beginning. Rome just followed the sacred tradition like they have always done. Same for the real presence. Same for Mary. But not an interpretation. Tradition established at the time of Christ and the Apostles.

 

[forkintheroad7]

The Church needs a whole new make over !

No, the Vatican does. It hasn't been Catholic for decades now.

 

[konradv]

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A Catholic priest is authorized by his ordination to act in persona Christi, or "in the person of Christ".

Christ was a man.

Here's a wonderful Catholic nun/Mother Superior, who is a spitfire on the subject. I wish I could live to see her canonized.




Worth listening to the whole thing to see an inspiring Catholic Warrior.


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Women are also persons.

 

[forkintheroad7]

False beliefs will lead you to Hell -

Remember Jesus said VERY few make it to Heaven. (Mt 7, Lk 13...)

When one saint ( I believe it was St Bernard ) died, he appeared to someone and told that person that when he died something like 32,000 others died and only 3 made it

2 by way of Purgatory.

All the rest fell into Hell

 

[Zebra]

False beliefs will lead you to Hell -

Remember Jesus said VERY few make it to Heaven. (Mt 7, Lk 13...)

When one saint ( I believe it was St Bernard ) died, he appeared to someone and told that person that when he died something like 32,000 others died and only 3 made it

2 by way of Purgatory.

All the rest fell into Hell

which Bernard?
there are about 20 Saint Bernards.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Catholicism goes back to the FIRST century and continues (though not in the Vatican)

When did "the father of Protestantism" come along?

15+ centuries later.

Luther did not invent Christianity. Jesus did.

If you keep fighting against Christ's Church... Well, I guess we'll see how that ends for you...

LOL. There are hundreds of denominations, and you think that yours is the right one. By the way, it wasn't until 300 years later that the church elders decided Jesus was not just the son of God but 3 flavors in one.

 

[ding]

LOL. There are hundreds of denominations, and you think that yours is the right one. By the way, it wasn't until 300 years later that the church elders decided Jesus was not just the son of God but 3 flavors in one.

Are you not happy with your choice?

 

[forkintheroad7]

LOL. There are hundreds of denominations, and you think that yours is the right one. By the way, it wasn't until 300 years later that the church elders decided Jesus was not just the son of God but 3 flavors in one.

You are deceived.

There are "100s of denominations" because Satan wants to confuse people and he wants to confuse them so he can drag them into Hell

False beliefs do the trick

Don't let Satan win. He usually wins. Jesus said most people do not find the narrow way to Heaven which of course means they end up in Hell.

And there is no way more narrow than the way of Christ, which is through HIS Church, not all those man-made ones... The Catholic Church can be traced to the first century

All other "Christian churches" (but wait... there is only ONE Church..) are traced to Luther who came to the world in the 16th century

But you can choose whatever beliefs you want. God gives you freedom, even to the point of allowing you to end up in Hell because you prefer your own (or your protestant pastor's) beliefs to TRUTH

 

[forkintheroad7]

which Bernard?
there are about 20 Saint Bernards.

why are you and so many others here focused on minutiae?

 

[zaangalewa]

I’m not Catholic, that is why I am asking, you want opinions you want input but you refuse to answer questions, you seem to like to troll.

The reason is it existed never female priests in the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church is very huge and overbridges thousands of years and hundreds of millions or even billions of people of very different cultures. So we need not only to know what's right or wrong or what's true and what's the real will of god - we have also to take with us a lot of people. And we are not an Olympic discipline — the slowest people define our speed. We cannot simply pull the rug out from under everyone — especially not those with simpler minds — who have always believed in this world.



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