CDZ Should prisoners be released from jail and prison over the Chinese virus?

[JoeB131]

I don't give a rat's ass what posters on a message board think. I got so disgusted with the court system, actually being the victim of a violent crime myself changed my mind, I chucked it all and went back to school in my 60s to learn dog grooming. I've painted for a good many years with a bit of success now and then. Would you be one of one dimensionals?

If the paintings you put in your AVI's is indicitive of your work, you shouldn't have quit your day job. No one thinks someone as bigoted as you are would have been a successful lawyer.

An American teen committed an act of vandalism in Singapore with a can of spray paint. He was caned. LIkely he never did it again.

Actually, you'd be wrong, there, too. The kid who got caned in Singapore actually got worse after his brutal experience.

Caning of Michael Fay - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Several months after returning to the United States, Fay suffered burns to his hands and face after a butane incident.[24][25][26] He was subsequently admitted to the Hazelden rehabilitation program for butane abuse.[24] He claimed that sniffing butane "made [him] forget what happened in Singapore."[27] In 1996, he was cited in Florida for a number of violations, including careless driving, reckless driving, not reporting a crash, and having an open bottle of alcohol in a car.[28] Later, in 1998, still in Florida, Fay was arrested for possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia, charges to which he confessed but was acquitted[29] because of technical errors in his arrest.[30]

I've run across many many teens who commit petty crimes. They laugh, giggle, ya ain't gonna do nuthin ta me. They are right. Prison is to harsh. They get let go by a judge practically begging the little thug not to do it again.

again, we lock up 2 million people. Now, here's the thing. If we are going to have a punishment, then maybe we should have the same punishment for privileged white kids who get into trouble we give to poor black kids who get into trouble.

 

[JoeB131]

Lol, now he's a criminal psychologist. Lemme tell ya, you are full of crap. I worked in a prison and we had to kinds of criminals. State jail offenders and TDC offenders. State fail offenders got NO parole and NO good time. Tell us expert, what kept those guy behaved? I'll tell ya, it was the fear of having 12 oz. of pepper spray applied to his face and then being thrown in a 5x8 cell with only a steel bed and a toilet. Now tell us some more nonsense because you don't know anything about prison.

Guy, I wouldn't take the advice of a prison guard on penal reform than I would take the advice of Jeff Dahmner on cooking. You guys are largely part of the problem.

 

[miketx]

Lol, now he's a criminal psychologist. Lemme tell ya, you are full of crap. I worked in a prison and we had to kinds of criminals. State jail offenders and TDC offenders. State fail offenders got NO parole and NO good time. Tell us expert, what kept those guy behaved? I'll tell ya, it was the fear of having 12 oz. of pepper spray applied to his face and then being thrown in a 5x8 cell with only a steel bed and a toilet. Now tell us some more nonsense because you don't know anything about prison.

Guy, I wouldn't take the advice of a prison guard on penal reform than I would take the advice of Jeff Dahmner on cooking. You guys are largely part of the problem.

I was their liar, I know what happened because I WAS THERE! State jail offenders get NO parole! NONE!

 

[JoeB131]

If course you Leftards think criminals should be out raping children. You love that kind of stuff.

We aren't talking about rapists, buddy, we're talking about petty, non-violent crimes.

We lock up 2 million people, but we have the highest crime rates in the industrialized world. You can go on about "morality" and "punishment" all day, but what we are doing isn't working.

I was their liar, I know what happened because I WAS THERE!

I'm sure you were there. You were also part of the problem.

 

[Weatherman2020]

If course you Leftards think criminals should be out raping children. You love that kind of stuff.

We aren't talking about rapists, buddy, we're talking about petty, non-violent crimes.

We lock up 2 million people, but we have the highest crime rates in the industrialized world. You can go on about "morality" and "punishment" all day, but what we are doing isn't working.

I was their liar, I know what happened because I WAS THERE!

I'm sure you were there. You were also part of the problem.

Just because someone was caught and convicted for burglary does not mean that’s they’re only crime. That’s only what they got caught doing.
Violence will now increase and you fuckheads will scream for more gun grabbing.

 

[miketx]

If course you Leftards think criminals should be out raping children. You love that kind of stuff.

We aren't talking about rapists, buddy, we're talking about petty, non-violent crimes.

We lock up 2 million people, but we have the highest crime rates in the industrialized world. You can go on about "morality" and "punishment" all day, but what we are doing isn't working.

I was their liar, I know what happened because I WAS THERE!

I'm sure you were there. You were also part of the problem.

Just because someone was caught and convicted for burglary does not mean that’s they’re only crime. That’s only what they got caught doing.
Violence will now increase and you fuckheads will scream for more gun grabbing.

That's right. I asked the warden if we had any criminals locked up here for murder. He said they had no one locked up here that was convicted of murder.

 

[miketx]

If course you Leftards think criminals should be out raping children. You love that kind of stuff.

We aren't talking about rapists, buddy, we're talking about petty, non-violent crimes.

We lock up 2 million people, but we have the highest crime rates in the industrialized world. You can go on about "morality" and "punishment" all day, but what we are doing isn't working.

I was their liar, I know what happened because I WAS THERE!

I'm sure you were there. You were also part of the problem.

I say put all criminals to death.

 

[Weatherman2020]

If course you Leftards think criminals should be out raping children. You love that kind of stuff.

We aren't talking about rapists, buddy, we're talking about petty, non-violent crimes.

We lock up 2 million people, but we have the highest crime rates in the industrialized world. You can go on about "morality" and "punishment" all day, but what we are doing isn't working.

I was their liar, I know what happened because I WAS THERE!

I'm sure you were there. You were also part of the problem.

Just because someone was caught and convicted for burglary does not mean that’s they’re only crime. That’s only what they got caught doing.
Violence will now increase and you fuckheads will scream for more gun grabbing.

That's right. I asked the warden if we had any criminals locked up here for murder. He said they had no one locked up here that was convicted of murder.

Rudy G cleaned up NYC by arresting and prosecuting the smallest offenders. The guy caught tossing a rock at a window is likely committing more serious crimes also and will be prosecuted at the full extent of the law.

 

[miketx]

If course you Leftards think criminals should be out raping children. You love that kind of stuff.

We aren't talking about rapists, buddy, we're talking about petty, non-violent crimes.

We lock up 2 million people, but we have the highest crime rates in the industrialized world. You can go on about "morality" and "punishment" all day, but what we are doing isn't working.

I was their liar, I know what happened because I WAS THERE!

I'm sure you were there. You were also part of the problem.

I say put all criminals to death.

Then when they pass that law, I can become a democrat and commit all the crime I want.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah....doesn't matter, guns don't effect their suicide rate, and the other link I posted stated guns have no influence on suicide rates....from Psychology today....

Let's ban guns and find out. After we've banned guns, and the suicide rate remains the same, I'll totally apologize.

We won't let you nuts have your guns back, but I'll totes apologize.

Don't have to ban guns to know it won't stop suicide....as Japan and my links already demonstrated....

And again...as more Americans own and carry guns, our gun crime and gun murder rate has gone down, not up...even Brazil is learning that lesson...

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%



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[Bob Blaylock]

Nobody believes you were an attorney.

No one thinks someone as bigoted as you are would have been a successful lawyer.

You speak for no one.

 

[miketx]

I base this on 35 years of being a criminal defense attorney.

I thought you were a shop owner/painter.

Nobody believes you were an attorney.

But they do re-offend.....and someone who murders another human being shouldn't be allowed out with other innocent people.....

Again, guy, that's not what our laws are. Our laws allow for the possibility of parole or probation. We've tried it your way, we have 2 million people in prison and we STILL have the highest crime rates in the industrialized world.

We've been doing "Cruel and Stupid" for years now. Maybe it's time to try something else.

We have high crime because you vermin keep letting criminals go free.

 

[JoeB131]

Just because someone was caught and convicted for burglary does not mean that’s they’re only crime. That’s only what they got caught doing.
Violence will now increase and you fuckheads will scream for more gun grabbing.

Unlikely. Also, we don't put people in jail for what they might have done.

Point being, if locking people up and arming everyone reduced violence, we'd have the lowest crime rates in the industrialized world, not the highest.

We have high crime because you vermin keep letting criminals go free.

No, we have crime because of wealth inequality, racism and easy access to guns.

 

[miketx]

Just because someone was caught and convicted for burglary does not mean that’s they’re only crime. That’s only what they got caught doing.
Violence will now increase and you fuckheads will scream for more gun grabbing.

Unlikely. Also, we don't put people in jail for what they might have done.

Point being, if locking people up and arming everyone reduced violence, we'd have the lowest crime rates in the industrialized world, not the highest.

We have high crime because you vermin keep letting criminals go free.

No, we have crime because of wealth inequality, racism and easy access to guns.

We have crime because vermin like you keep letting violent criminals go free. You don't know anything about prisons and even less about crime. In other words, you're a liar.

 

[JoeB131]

We have crime because vermin like you keep letting violent criminals go free. You don't know anything about prisons and even less about crime. In other words, you're a liar.

I know we have too many of them and they are part of the problem.

What else is there to know?

 

[miketx]

We have crime because vermin like you keep letting violent criminals go free. You don't know anything about prisons and even less about crime. In other words, you're a liar.

I know we have too many of them and they are part of the problem.

What else is there to know?

That you hate the USA and want more criminals released to prey upon the law abiding.

 

[JoeB131]

That you hate the USA and want more criminals released to prey upon the law abiding.

Uh, guy, the Prison-Industrial Complex creates more criminals, more than anything else.

Okay, I realize you are a bit slow, and as Upton Sinclair observed, you can't get a man to understand a problem if his paycheck depends on him not understanding it.

We have grinding poverty and racism, which we try to control by creating fear through a Prison-Industrial Complex. We lock up 2 million people, we have another 7 million on probation or parole, we have 100 million Americans with "Criminal" records.

Compare that to Japan and the European countries. They lock up less than 100,000 people. (78K in Germany, 69K in Japan, 68K in the United Kingdom). They have extensive job and social programs. They treat addiction like a medical problem instead of a criminal one. And, oh, yeah, you can't get a gun unless you have a damned good reason to have one.

We have the highest crime rates in the industrialized world, they have the lowest.

 

[miketx]

That you hate the USA and want more criminals released to prey upon the law abiding.

Uh, guy, the Prison-Industrial Complex creates more criminals, more than anything else.

Okay, I realize you are a bit slow, and as Upton Sinclair observed, you can't get a man to understand a problem if his paycheck depends on him not understanding it.

We have grinding poverty and racism, which we try to control by creating fear through a Prison-Industrial Complex. We lock up 2 million people, we have another 7 million on probation or parole, we have 100 million Americans with "Criminal" records.

Compare that to Japan and the European countries. They lock up less than 100,000 people. (78K in Germany, 69K in Japan, 68K in the United Kingdom). They have extensive job and social programs. They treat addiction like a medical problem instead of a criminal one. And, oh, yeah, you can't get a gun unless you have a damned good reason to have one.

We have the highest crime rates in the industrialized world, they have the lowest.

I don't get a paycheck liar. I retired. You know NOTHING about prison goings on. You have proven it. I was there! You spew media trash. And you are still a liar. Stop letting criminals out.

 

[JoeB131]

I don't get a paycheck liar. I retired. You know NOTHING about prison goings on. You have proven it. I was there! You spew media trash. And you are still a liar. Stop letting criminals out.

I knew it was too complicated for you. Well, I tried.

 

[miketx]

I don't get a paycheck liar. I retired. You know NOTHING about prison goings on. You have proven it. I was there! You spew media trash. And you are still a liar. Stop letting criminals out.

I knew it was too complicated for you. Well, I tried.

Typical dimmobabble double talk. Fact, TDC offenders get good time and parole. FACT, state jail offenders get neither. FACT, democrats continually release violent criminals. Fact, you lie non stop.