Should Presidents Be Allowed to Pardon Family Members?

[hjmick]

Trump pardoned Charles Kushner

And he was not only guilty as sin, he is a real scumbag asshole.

And possibly our next ambassador to France...

 

[justoffal]

The Constitution doesn't put limits on the President's ability to give pardons, so they can pardon whoever they want.

Needs to stay that way....I'm not bothered at all by the pardon....he may be a sleazeball but it's not like he murdered someone.

 

[g5000]

And he was not only guilty as sin, he is a real scumbag asshole.

And possibly our next ambassador to France...

The Kushners owned a building on Fifth Avenue just down the street from Trump Tower.

The number of the address was in big red letters at the top of the building.

666.

I shit you not.

During a renovation, they changed it to 660.

Can't be too obvious, after all.

 

[dudmuck]

A pardon means you did the wrongdoing but don’t have to pay for it
Thinkers said Hunter was an addict criminal
Lib loons wailed No and Russian disinformation
His daddy big guy Joe Just Confirmed what thinkers said all along
Any of the witch hunters he pardons CONFIRMS it was a witch hunt

witch hunter pardons?
Is witch hunting a crime?

 

[hjmick]

It's a ridiculous system. Why should the president be able to pardon people for no reason at all? There's just no oversight of the system at all, it's so open to abuse it's incredible.

It's privilege and power I would not mind being revoked.

 

[g5000]

Tishman Speyer Properties, the company that bought Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village for $5.4 billion last month in the biggest real estate deal in the country, has agreed to sell the 41-story skyscraper at 666 Fifth Avenue and 53rd Street for $1.8 billion to a New Jersey real estate family, the Kushners.

A Big Deal, Even in Manhattan: A Tower Goes for $1.8 Billion (Published 2006)

The Kushners, a New Jersey real estate family, are paying three times what the seller paid for the building six years ago.

www.nytimes.com

 

[BULLDOG]

Would Trump have? I must admit that I think that Trump probably would have, but I'm pretty sure that that's an unfair advantage?

Trump pardoned his son-in-law's father.

 

[Curried Goats]

Yeah but I honestly don't think that he even remembers saying that.

He didn't. The Republican Supreme Court did.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It's privilege and power I would not mind being revoked.

The whole system needs to be changed, but this one is the one that every four years has people scratching their heads. I can't imagine even Democrats liking Hunter being pardoned.

 

[Cougarbear]

You should of had another option that says it depends. If they suffered false charges, yes. But also no on the ground of conflict of interest.

Another way to say it, "Depends on the Situation."

 

[WEATHER53]

witch hunter pardons?
Is witch hunting a crime?

Persecution prosecutions aka witch hunts are unlawful

 

[Moonglow]

Would Trump have? I must admit that I think that Trump probably would have, but I'm pretty sure that that's an unfair advantage?

Trump did pardon Jared's dad who was convicted of voter fraud and was a felon and is now an ambassador...

 

[Moonglow]

Yes.

The power of the pardon is absolute. And it needs to be.

The democrat filth went after all of Trumps friends and many of his supporters. What if they had convicted barron or tiffany for some garbage they made up?

Every president on both sides would be instantly compromised. The power of the pardon MUST remain absolute!

Yer , "what if" is absurd.

 

[para bellum]

What about nobody being above the law though?

Well the Constitution is the Supreme law, and most State Constitutions give the same power to Governors.

So to that extent, Chief executives do sit above the law, in the sense that they have the power to over-rule the courts in those cases.

Even though it has the potential to be abused, it is a power that the people have granted to their elected leaders, to exercise at their discretion.

And it has also been exercised to rectify miscarriages of justice, or just to show mercy to someone who is repentant of their crimes.

Like everything else in our system, it's not perfect, but it is part of the checks and balances that exist within the construct of government.

 

[para bellum]

Trump did pardon Jared's dad who was convicted of voter fraud and was a felon and is now an ambassador...

Was he on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Even though it has the potential to be abused, it is a power that the people have granted to their elected leaders, to exercise at their discretion.

When & how?

 

[Thunk]

Yer , "what if" is absurd.

They investigated eric and don Jr. to death! They both spent hundreds of hours giving testimony and being questioned.

Even tiffany had all her bank records and debit cards audited.

Have you ever tried to read?

 

[para bellum]

When & how?

When the Constitutions are ratified, of course. The "how" is the language incorporated into the Constitutions (State and Federal)

 

[justoffal]

Well the Constitution is the Supreme law, and most State Constitutions give the same power to Governors.

So to that extent, Chief executives do sit above the law, in the sense that they have the power to over-rule the courts in those cases.

Even though it has the potential to be abused, it is a power that the people have granted to their elected leaders, to exercise at their discretion.

And it has also been exercised to rectify miscarriages of justice, or just to show mercy to someone who is repentant of their crimes.

Like everything else in our system, it's not perfect, but it is part of the checks and balances that exist within the construct of government.

It needs to stay the way it is.

 

[para bellum]

It needs to stay the way it is.

Agree. It serves a purpose to check the courts, and until someone comes up with a better way, it should be left alone.