Should illegal aliens be deported.

[Kondor3]

Should illegal aliens be deported?

If a person who lacks authorization to be present in the U.S. is apprehended for something and their status as such becomes know, sure, they should be deported. I do not, however, advocate expending resources to actively find undocumented immigrants solely because they are undocumented immigrants. For instance:

• Should it become known a given undocumented immigrant poses a safety threat to citizens, a state, a city, a building or the nation as a whole, sure hunt them down and send the packing, or hunt them down, try them in a court of law if necessary and incarcerate them, or, if relevant, summarily detain them under whatever be the applicable terrorist/national security provisions, whichever be more appropriate to the circumstances.
• I wouldn't send ICE agents to the local Home Depot to determine which of the dudes there seeking "pick-up" work may be undocumented immigrants and commence deportation procedures for any who are.
• If an undocumented immigrant is convicted of (admits to) a crime, misdemeanor or felony, sure, deport, or incarcerate them and at the end of their incarceration, deport them.
• When persons are stopped for speeding, I wouldn't have cops solicit proof of the person having (or not being) authorization to be in the U.S.
• Upon receiving a tip that a firm employs undocumented immigrants, sure, deport those determined to be illegally working for that firm, provided the individual isn't someone whose situation isn't one whereby his/her authorization has expired and the needed re-authorization is already in process and reasonably likely to be granted. (Obviously there's an equitable time window associated with the qualifying provision I've noted. I can't precisely quantify that time period, but I can describe what strikes me as equitable in such instance -- it's however long Customs and Immigration takes to process such applications + seven business days to allow for mail delivery + two calendar weeks.)

Disagree.

We face an Invasion Force of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens currently residing on US soil without our express prior consent.

A nation that lacks the courage to enforce its own sovereignty and borders it destined to fall.

Those who came before us have worked and sacrificed too much to allow that to happen without challenge.

Either we beat Sanctuary Cities and Sanctuary States into the dust or we spend megabucks on hunt-and-deport operations.

Either we fashion a new generation of laws designed to make Illegal Aliens want to leave on their own, or we spend megabucks on hunt-and-deport operations.

To make omelettes ya gotta break a few eggs.

Time to take effective measures to repel this 11-12,000,000 -strong Invasion Force.

 

[danielpalos]

Should illegal aliens be deported?

If a person who lacks authorization to be present in the U.S. is apprehended for something and their status as such becomes know, sure, they should be deported. I do not, however, advocate expending resources to actively find undocumented immigrants solely because they are undocumented immigrants. For instance:

• Should it become known a given undocumented immigrant poses a safety threat to citizens, a state, a city, a building or the nation as a whole, sure hunt them down and send the packing, or hunt them down, try them in a court of law if necessary and incarcerate them, or, if relevant, summarily detain them under whatever be the applicable terrorist/national security provisions, whichever be more appropriate to the circumstances.
• I wouldn't send ICE agents to the local Home Depot to determine which of the dudes there seeking "pick-up" work may be undocumented immigrants and commence deportation procedures for any who are.
• If an undocumented immigrant is convicted of (admits to) a crime, misdemeanor or felony, sure, deport, or incarcerate them and at the end of their incarceration, deport them.
• When persons are stopped for speeding, I wouldn't have cops solicit proof of the person having (or not being) authorization to be in the U.S.
• Upon receiving a tip that a firm employs undocumented immigrants, sure, deport those determined to be illegally working for that firm, provided the individual isn't someone whose situation isn't one whereby his/her authorization has expired and the needed re-authorization is already in process and reasonably likely to be granted. (Obviously there's an equitable time window associated with the qualifying provision I've noted. I can't precisely quantify that time period, but I can describe what strikes me as equitable in such instance -- it's however long Customs and Immigration takes to process such applications + seven business days to allow for mail delivery + two calendar weeks.)

Disagree.

We face an Invasion Force of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens currently residing on US soil without our express prior consent.

A nation that lacks the courage to enforce its own sovereignty and borders it destined to fall.

Those who came before us have worked and sacrificed too much to allow that to happen without challenge.

Either we beat Sanctuary Cities and Sanctuary States into the dust or we spend megabucks on hunt-and-deport operations.

Either we fashion a new generation of laws designed to make Illegal Aliens want to leave on their own, or we spend megabucks on hunt-and-deport operations.

To make omelettes ya gotta break a few eggs.

Time to take effective measures to repel this 11-12,000,000 -strong Invasion Force.

All foreign nationals in the US should have a federal id. That is a federal obligation, not a State obligation.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Should illegal aliens be deported?

If a person who lacks authorization to be present in the U.S. is apprehended for something and their status as such becomes know, sure, they should be deported. I do not, however, advocate expending resources to actively find undocumented immigrants solely because they are undocumented immigrants. For instance:

• Should it become known a given undocumented immigrant poses a safety threat to citizens, a state, a city, a building or the nation as a whole, sure hunt them down and send the packing, or hunt them down, try them in a court of law if necessary and incarcerate them, or, if relevant, summarily detain them under whatever be the applicable terrorist/national security provisions, whichever be more appropriate to the circumstances.
• I wouldn't send ICE agents to the local Home Depot to determine which of the dudes there seeking "pick-up" work may be undocumented immigrants and commence deportation procedures for any who are.
• If an undocumented immigrant is convicted of (admits to) a crime, misdemeanor or felony, sure, deport, or incarcerate them and at the end of their incarceration, deport them.
• When persons are stopped for speeding, I wouldn't have cops solicit proof of the person having (or not being) authorization to be in the U.S.
• Upon receiving a tip that a firm employs undocumented immigrants, sure, deport those determined to be illegally working for that firm, provided the individual isn't someone whose situation isn't one whereby his/her authorization has expired and the needed re-authorization is already in process and reasonably likely to be granted. (Obviously there's an equitable time window associated with the qualifying provision I've noted. I can't precisely quantify that time period, but I can describe what strikes me as equitable in such instance -- it's however long Customs and Immigration takes to process such applications + seven business days to allow for mail delivery + two calendar weeks.)

Disagree.

We face an Invasion Force of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens currently residing on US soil without our express prior consent.

A nation that lacks the courage to enforce its own sovereignty and borders it destined to fall.

Those who came before us have worked and sacrificed too much to allow that to happen without challenge.

Either we beat Sanctuary Cities and Sanctuary States into the dust or we spend megabucks on hunt-and-deport operations.

Either we fashion a new generation of laws designed to make Illegal Aliens want to leave on their own, or we spend megabucks on hunt-and-deport operations.

To make omelettes ya gotta break a few eggs.

Time to take effective measures to repel this 11-12,000,000 -strong Invasion Force.

We face an Invasion Force of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens currently residing on US soil without our express prior consent.

"Old news" alert: the quantity of illegal immigrants in the U.S. had, as of 2016 fallen below 11M and the quantity of illegal immigrants arriving/staying in the U.S. has been on the decline for nearly a decade. Thus we do not have 11M to 12M illegal immigrants in the U.S.

residing on US soil without our express prior consent.

"Old news" alert: a great many illegal immigrants in the U.S. did indeed receive some measure of "express prior consent" to reside for some period of time in the U.S.

• Visa Overstays Outnumber Illegal Border Crossings, Trend Expected to Continue
  Crossing the border is not the way "the large majority of persons now become undocumented," the Center for Migration Studies(CMS) said in a recent report. Two-thirds of those who joined the undocumented population did so by entering with a valid visa and then overstaying their period of admission, the center reported.
  
• Report: Visa Overstays More Common Than Illegal Border Entries; Mexicans The Most Likely to Overstay -- "Overstays have exceeded border crossings by some 600,000 since 2007."
  
• A large majority of [the ~11M illegal immigrants] living in the U.S. (as of Sept. 2016) illegally have been here for a decade or longer, which is a major shift from the situation at the turn of the millennium. About two-thirds of unauthorized immigrants have lived in the U.S. for 10 years or more, Pew says. Only 14 percent arrived [between 2011 and 2016].
  
  
  

Now, I don't know how many work-visa-overstays are in the population of illegal immigrants; however, the Department of Homeland Security has estimated that as of Jan. 4, 2016, about 416,500 people overstayed their visas in fiscal year 2015. That's less than 1 percent of visa holders who entered the U.S. during that period. Other organizations offer different estimates:

• The conservative Center for Immigration Studies estimated in 2014 that two-thirds of the 400K+ individuals who that year joined the unauthorized immigrant population were visa overstayers.
• Pew in 2006 estimated the percentage might be as high as 45%.

Consequently, regardless of which rate is accurate yet considering them and the raw count figures, I suspect that insofar as the overwhelming majority of work visa recipients are H2A workers, a fair quantity of illegal immigrants fall are indeed H2A overstayers who received "express prior consent" to reside in the U.S. during the season of their employment.

Nonimmigrant Visas Issued By Select Classifications FY 2000-2015​

​

Ancillarily...

• While Hispanics comprise the largest share of illegal immigrants in the U.S., the largest share of visa overstays come from Canada.
• "The total US undocumented population continued to decline in 2014, and has fallen by more than a million since 2008." (Source)
• With regard to Hispanic illegal immigrants, insofar as there are in fact not many agricultural jobs to be had in the U.S., temporary workers find employment not in that industry, but rather in service industry and construction jobs.

​

Disagree

I can tell that you do.....I can tell too that you hold a strong view about a matter on which you are, for material dimensions, poorly informed....C'est la vie....

To know that you do not know is the best.
To think you know when you do not is a disease.
Recognizing this disease as a disease is to be free of it.
-- Lao Tzu​

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I say hell yeah, they should be deported.

I posted the same poll many months ago and think it would be interesting to see if opinions have changed.

An undocumented immigrant is not ‘illegal’ until such time as he has been found guilty in a court of law of entering the country absent authorization.

All persons in the United States are afforded a presumption of innocence and due process of the law, including those undocumented.

That an immigrant is undocumented doesn’t alone warrant his deportation, as he may be seeking refugee status and asylum in the United States, and he has a right to apply for refugee status.

Once an undocumented immigrant has been afforded comprehensive due process, deportation is then warranted.

The issue therefore is not whether undocumented immigrants should be deported – as all are in agreement that they should; rather, the issue concerns those who want to deport those undocumented without affording them their right to due process, in violation of the Constitution, where those who wish to do so are as a fact of law wrong.

 

[JoeB131]

When you hear the Democrats use the term "changing demographics" it means that they are using immigration to make the white voters the minority ASAP.
It means that the Democratic Party regards white Voters as its enemy.
It means a growing underclass and shrinking middle class.
People are concerned about America becoming a third world country.

The same Nativist fuckstains who complain about the Mexicans.

Complained about the Poles 50 years ago.
Complained about the Italians and Germans 100 years ago.
Complained about the Irish 150 years ago.

How all these nasty, nasty immigrants were going to make WASP's the minority and destroy America.

America was just fine. It actually became better than it was.

We have a work visa system.

But not an effective one... I mean, if you are a computer guy from India, you can get a job because Americans are fat and bad at math. But if you want to get a job Americans won't take because they are too good for that sort of thing, you still have to sneak in under a fence.

 

[JoeB131]

Disagree.

We face an Invasion Force of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens currently residing on US soil without our express prior consent.

They didn't "invade", they were invited.

This is what you clowns don't get. When your fellow Americans- mostly rich white Republicans, give jobs to illegals, they've extended an invitation to them to come here. I'm so sorry you don't get this.

Either we beat Sanctuary Cities and Sanctuary States into the dust or we spend megabucks on hunt-and-deport operations.

Or we just grant an amnesty like Ronald Reagan did 30 years ago.

Funny thing happened. The world didn't end when Reagan, that pinko liberal, granted an Amnesty.

 

[Windparadox]

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The law says illegal immigration is a crime and those caught need to be deported. I can understand and appreciate that. If one does not like the law, then it should be changed. However, when there are inhuman types in the US talking about killing those illegals or depriving them "due process", then there is a major problem.
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[JoeB131]

The law says illegal immigration is a crime and those caught need to be deported. I can understand and appreciate that. If one does not like the law, then it should be changed. However, when there are inhuman types in the US talking about killing those illegals or depriving them "due process", then there is a major problem.

Here's the problem. Sometimes the laws are unworkable.

The thing is, we've all known the immigration laws are unworkable since 2008, maybe longer, when they first proposed the McCain-Kennedy bill to fix the problems. But a very loud minority in the GOP keeps any change from happening.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

When you hear the Democrats use the term "changing demographics" it means that they are using immigration to make the white voters the minority ASAP.
It means that the Democratic Party regards white Voters as its enemy.
It means a growing underclass and shrinking middle class.
People are concerned about America becoming a third world country.

The same Nativist fuckstains who complain about the Mexicans.

Complained about the Poles 50 years ago.
Complained about the Italians and Germans 100 years ago.
Complained about the Irish 150 years ago.

How all these nasty, nasty immigrants were going to make WASP's the minority and destroy America.

America was just fine. It actually became better than it was.

We have a work visa system.

But not an effective one... I mean, if you are a computer guy from India, you can get a job because Americans are fat and bad at math. But if you want to get a job Americans won't take because they are too good for that sort of thing, you still have to sneak in under a fence.

The Dirty Racist Democrats are saying that:
America can’t control its border crossings
America can’t control its immigration.
America can’t deport illegal alien criminals
America can’t stop non-citizens from voting in our elections
The Democrats refuse to accept that we have a 100% right to control our border crossings and a 100% right to control our immigration just like the other 200 countries on the planet.

Most Democrat Voters are dumb racist bigots.
This is why the Democratic Party is full of so many hate groups.
Nation of Islam, Klan, La Raza, Black Panthers, Mecha, BLM, Muslim Brotherhood, Antifa, CAIR, Aztlan Nationalist

 

[JoeB131]

The Dirty Racist Democrats are saying that:
America can’t control its border crossings
America can’t control its immigration.
America can’t deport illegal alien criminals
America can’t stop non-citizens from voting in our elections

Except they aren't voting in our elections... you've had a year to prove they were and came up with nothing.

And clearly, we can't control our borders as long as rich white people keep offering them jobs Americans won't do.

You just aren't very smart, are you? Probably why you feel threatened by the undocumented, it's the only kind of job you could hold down.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The Dirty Racist Democrats are saying that:
America can’t control its border crossings
America can’t control its immigration.
America can’t deport illegal alien criminals
America can’t stop non-citizens from voting in our elections

Except they aren't voting in our elections... you've had a year to prove they were and came up with nothing.

And clearly, we can't control our borders as long as rich white people keep offering them jobs Americans won't do.

You just aren't very smart, are you? Probably why you feel threatened by the undocumented, it's the only kind of job you could hold down.

All countries control their border crossings and control their immigration.
Clearly the Democrats are using illegal aliens to cancel-out the votes of American citizens.
That is why they brag about "changing demographics"
That is why they block Voter ID laws. Voter fraud is a voting rights violation.
By blocking Voter ID laws it makes it almost impossible to check for voter fraud.

If we don't have borders then we aren't a country.
If we aren't a country then everything is in doubt.
The Democrats are not just wrong.
Democrats are bad destructive people.

 

[kaz]

I say hell yeah, they should be deported.

I posted the same poll many months ago and think it would be interesting to see if opinions have changed.

We should give them six months to leave. After that, they should be deported after a jail term of no less than three months for the first offense.

Why would we keep criminals in the country? Every one of them is a criminal.

What a job boom that would create for the poor

 

[kaz]

If you are illegally here no matter if your visa is out of status or came here illegally you have no right to be here.

Every nation has immigration laws including America.

I don't think it's a matter of "rights". There are no "Rights", there are only priviliges the rest of us let you have. Any fool who thinks he has "rights" needs to look up Japanese Americans, 1942.

That said, as a practical matter, we have 11 million undocumented immigrants here. some have been here since they were children and know no other country.

And sadly, as much as the right whines about it, it's other rich Republicans who keep hiring them.

Right, ass wipe. Only Republicans hire illegals. There's a Republican hiding in your closet now. Republicans put a listening device in your sock drawer. What's it like being a paranoid delusional?

Anyway, throw the people who hire illegals in jail for a few weeks and let them know we're serious. I don't care what party they belong to

 

[kaz]

If someone breaks into your house are they entitled to stay?

Yes, and they're entitled to an allowance and to vote where you are going to take them to dinner

 

[kaz]

The Dirty Racist Democrats are saying that:
America can’t control its border crossings
America can’t control its immigration.
America can’t deport illegal alien criminals
America can’t stop non-citizens from voting in our elections

Except they aren't voting in our elections... you've had a year to prove they were and came up with nothing.

And clearly, we can't control our borders as long as rich white people keep offering them jobs Americans won't do.

You just aren't very smart, are you? Probably why you feel threatened by the undocumented, it's the only kind of job you could hold down.

The only way that illegal aliens are caught voting is when they admit they are illegal aliens. In Virginia for example, when you register to vote, there is a box you have to check that you are a citizen. There is no other verification.

I like how leftists block validating citizenship, then you claim there is no proof illegals are voting ... because you blocked it ...

Actually thousands of voters in the last election admitted they were illegal. That was the only way we knew they were illegals voting. What percent of illegals do you think admit they are illegal when they vote? A tiny fraction of them. It's certain there are millions of illegals voting

 

[kaz]

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Illegals KILL and RAPE thousands of American's, who's side are you on?

I am on the side of truth. Which is the opposite side you are on, me boy. Illegals have a lower rate of criminal activity, including murder and rape, than the rest of our population are responsible for.
Trump's claim that immigrants bring 'tremendous crime' is still wrong ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../fact-checker/.../trumps-claim-that-immigrants-bring-...

No they do not, illegals have a much higher rate of criminal activity AND their crimes are more violent so either stop lying or pull your ignorant head out of your ass. Never mind the fact that there should be zero illegal crime in our country because they should be deported the hell out of here.

Nope. You loose. You are a simple minded con who believes what cons like Trump tell you. And, regardless of how often it is proved, you will believe you are correct. Because, me boy, that is the way of con trolls like yourself. You are a pin head, and unable to believe the truth if it is not what you want to believe. Dipshit.

Trump is a fucking God with a hot daughter. You're just a little bitch. Only fucking idiots need "Facts" and "Evidence" to build their perspective around. Real men just know shit, and real women don't exist outside the kitchen!!

Wow, doesn't Bulldog know that. He's completely obsessed with Ivanka, like wow

 

[Kondor3]

Should illegal aliens be deported?

If a person who lacks authorization to be present in the U.S. is apprehended for something and their status as such becomes know, sure, they should be deported. I do not, however, advocate expending resources to actively find undocumented immigrants solely because they are undocumented immigrants. For instance:

• Should it become known a given undocumented immigrant poses a safety threat to citizens, a state, a city, a building or the nation as a whole, sure hunt them down and send the packing, or hunt them down, try them in a court of law if necessary and incarcerate them, or, if relevant, summarily detain them under whatever be the applicable terrorist/national security provisions, whichever be more appropriate to the circumstances.
• I wouldn't send ICE agents to the local Home Depot to determine which of the dudes there seeking "pick-up" work may be undocumented immigrants and commence deportation procedures for any who are.
• If an undocumented immigrant is convicted of (admits to) a crime, misdemeanor or felony, sure, deport, or incarcerate them and at the end of their incarceration, deport them.
• When persons are stopped for speeding, I wouldn't have cops solicit proof of the person having (or not being) authorization to be in the U.S.
• Upon receiving a tip that a firm employs undocumented immigrants, sure, deport those determined to be illegally working for that firm, provided the individual isn't someone whose situation isn't one whereby his/her authorization has expired and the needed re-authorization is already in process and reasonably likely to be granted. (Obviously there's an equitable time window associated with the qualifying provision I've noted. I can't precisely quantify that time period, but I can describe what strikes me as equitable in such instance -- it's however long Customs and Immigration takes to process such applications + seven business days to allow for mail delivery + two calendar weeks.)

Disagree.

We face an Invasion Force of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens currently residing on US soil without our express prior consent.

A nation that lacks the courage to enforce its own sovereignty and borders it destined to fall.

Those who came before us have worked and sacrificed too much to allow that to happen without challenge.

Either we beat Sanctuary Cities and Sanctuary States into the dust or we spend megabucks on hunt-and-deport operations.

Either we fashion a new generation of laws designed to make Illegal Aliens want to leave on their own, or we spend megabucks on hunt-and-deport operations.

To make omelettes ya gotta break a few eggs.

Time to take effective measures to repel this 11-12,000,000 -strong Invasion Force.

We face an Invasion Force of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens currently residing on US soil without our express prior consent.

"Old news" alert: the quantity of illegal immigrants in the U.S. had, as of 2016 fallen below 11M and the quantity of illegal immigrants arriving/staying in the U.S. has been on the decline for nearly a decade. Thus we do not have 11M to 12M illegal immigrants in the U.S.

residing on US soil without our express prior consent.

"Old news" alert: a great many illegal immigrants in the U.S. did indeed receive some measure of "express prior consent" to reside for some period of time in the U.S.

• Visa Overstays Outnumber Illegal Border Crossings, Trend Expected to Continue
  Crossing the border is not the way "the large majority of persons now become undocumented," the Center for Migration Studies(CMS) said in a recent report. Two-thirds of those who joined the undocumented population did so by entering with a valid visa and then overstaying their period of admission, the center reported.
  
• Report: Visa Overstays More Common Than Illegal Border Entries; Mexicans The Most Likely to Overstay -- "Overstays have exceeded border crossings by some 600,000 since 2007."
  
• A large majority of [the ~11M illegal immigrants] living in the U.S. (as of Sept. 2016) illegally have been here for a decade or longer, which is a major shift from the situation at the turn of the millennium. About two-thirds of unauthorized immigrants have lived in the U.S. for 10 years or more, Pew says. Only 14 percent arrived [between 2011 and 2016].
  
  
  

Now, I don't know how many work-visa-overstays are in the population of illegal immigrants; however, the Department of Homeland Security has estimated that as of Jan. 4, 2016, about 416,500 people overstayed their visas in fiscal year 2015. That's less than 1 percent of visa holders who entered the U.S. during that period. Other organizations offer different estimates:

• The conservative Center for Immigration Studies estimated in 2014 that two-thirds of the 400K+ individuals who that year joined the unauthorized immigrant population were visa overstayers.
• Pew in 2006 estimated the percentage might be as high as 45%.

Consequently, regardless of which rate is accurate yet considering them and the raw count figures, I suspect that insofar as the overwhelming majority of work visa recipients are H2A workers, a fair quantity of illegal immigrants fall are indeed H2A overstayers who received "express prior consent" to reside in the U.S. during the season of their employment.

Nonimmigrant Visas Issued By Select Classifications FY 2000-2015​

​

Ancillarily...

• While Hispanics comprise the largest share of illegal immigrants in the U.S., the largest share of visa overstays come from Canada.
• "The total US undocumented population continued to decline in 2014, and has fallen by more than a million since 2008." (Source)
• With regard to Hispanic illegal immigrants, insofar as there are in fact not many agricultural jobs to be had in the U.S., temporary workers find employment not in that industry, but rather in service industry and construction jobs.

​

Disagree

I can tell that you do.....I can tell too that you hold a strong view about a matter on which you are, for material dimensions, poorly informed....C'est la vie....

To know that you do not know is the best.
To think you know when you do not is a disease.
Recognizing this disease as a disease is to be free of it.
-- Lao Tzu​

None of that $hit matters in the slightest.

Our country... our rules.

It's time for them to go.

 

[Kondor3]

Disagree.

We face an Invasion Force of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens currently residing on US soil without our express prior consent.

They didn't "invade", they were invited...

Hor$e$hit.

...This is what you clowns don't get. When your fellow Americans- mostly rich white Republicans, give jobs to illegals, they've extended an invitation to them to come here. I'm so sorry you don't get this. ..

More rubbish and sophistry... the so-called 'invitation' is not lawful... the Inviters need to go to jail... the Invitees need to go home.

If it helps... the Invitation is hereby withdrawn and rescinded.

...

Either we beat Sanctuary Cities and Sanctuary States into the dust or we spend megabucks on hunt-and-deport operations.

Or we just grant an amnesty like Ronald Reagan did 30 years ago.

Funny thing happened. The world didn't end when Reagan, that pinko liberal, granted an Amnesty.

Nope.

Ronnie Raygun took the easy way out in 1986... Shamnesty for 3,000,000, while promising that it (or anything like it) would never happen again.

He lied.

The government lied.

Time to reverse that, and eject the 11-12,000,000 now here, by fair means or foul... just so long as they get gone.

 

[Crixus]

If you are illegally here no matter if your visa is out of status or came here illegally you have no right to be here.

Every nation has immigration laws including America.

I don't think it's a matter of "rights". There are no "Rights", there are only priviliges the rest of us let you have. Any fool who thinks he has "rights" needs to look up Japanese Americans, 1942.

That said, as a practical matter, we have 11 million undocumented immigrants here. some have been here since they were children and know no other country.

And sadly, as much as the right whines about it, it's other rich Republicans who keep hiring them.

Yeah, When your democrat hero locked them all up in tent camps, that was fucked up. He also did it to German Americans. Here's the thing Joe, that "they know no other country" isn't our problem. Your arguments are stupid. Token Negro called these "children" Most of whom are and were over 20 to come on down. No one gives a fuck about some wetback. Your side is losing the fight. Even where I work has found a way to broom the beeners. I know its hard for you, what with your side losing since Trumps win and all, But Joe, You will be able to get your lawn mowing job back soon. S0 be of good cheer.

 

[JoeMoma]

The law says illegals should be deported.

natural rights mean nothing to the right wing.

all foreign nationals in the US should have a federal id.

They should practice natural rights in their own countries. People in other countries don’t have a natural right to immigrate to the United States.... at least not according to our laws (which lack enforcement for the most part).