Should ICE shoot rock throwing protesters? (Poll)

Should ICE shoot rock throwing protesters?

  • Yes

    Votes: 69 76.7%
  • No

    Votes: 21 23.3%

  • Total voters
    90
Pegging rocks from a distance is one thing, coming up to the vehicle and hurling a fist sized rock directly at the driver, albeit through the glass, is attempted murder: great bodily harm at a minimum.

When the vehicle is coming towards you and you are running at the vehicle, add both those speeds to the speed of the rock.

I saw one van get hit in the windshield right where the driver's face was. It was carefully aimed. It left a 6" white circular smash in the safety glass.

Had that windshield not held, that driver would at best be going to the hospital.
 
I don't care if a cartel minion gets shot. **** 'em. They chose who they owe fealty to. And it isn't the USA.

At the ICE riot in California the other day, at just one end, the crowd there had no less than four Mexican flags.
 
California (where this raid occurred) does have a stand-your-ground law, yet those protections apply to civilians under imminent danger, not to federal agents during the course of a planned raid. Different legal standards, different responsibilities.

Thank You, stupid. You just justified the J6er's defense and vilified the attacks by the capitol police on the crowd as well as the cowardly murder of unarmed, defenseless, harmless Ashli Babbitt.
 
Attacking the police violates the rule of law, you bloody simpleton.

Pretty funny watching the same people who celebrated the murder of Ashli Babbitt with glee now cry that ICE has no business shooting back at a mob trying to kill them! A mob carrying a foreign flag no less.

I have not heard one protestation yet from Mexico denouncing these attacks saying they have absolutely no interest in nor financial investment in funding these attacks.
 
Time for force to meet force. Saddle up. Lock n' load.

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Need I point out that many of these ICE attackers come dressed in PPE designed to withstand moderate attacks like a rubber bullet to maybe even small arms fire?
Black Bloc / ANTIFA / Anti ICE types are now funded and geared up with Level III A body armor rigs , tactical gear , ballistic Shields & helmets & Riot gear and firearms , high end Controlled pyrotechnics …
 
when California REFUSES to support Federal law enforcement in the field what makes you think they will bring water canons to help out?
That’s exactly why ICE should set the tone. When state support is shaky, the burden's higher—not lower—to show discipline. If locals don’t trust the feds, you don’t fix that by confirming their worst fears. You do it by enforcing the law with precision and integrity, not escalation. The cartels want chaos. Let’s not hand it to them.

My thoughts are for such use of NLWs.
I'd bet the reason they haven't been used is things hadn't escalated to that point. Now the Dems are actively pushing for violence, of course at someone else's risk.
I'm thinking they're going to be deployed.
Non-lethal weapons are exactly the kind of force that works because they disrupt without escalating. If both sides are primed for violence, the job isn’t to match it—it’s to outmaneuver it. Use the right tools, show control, and you win the crowd, not just the ground.

Only a jackass with a death wish picks up and throws a rock with deadly force and intent at an armed Federal Agent carrying an M-16. FAFO.
Sure—and only a professional handle that moment without letting adrenaline do the thinking. If someone wants to die throwing rocks, don’t give them the martyrdom they came for. Defuse the threat, don’t glorify the bloodshed. That’s what separates law from chaos.
Thank You, stupid. You just justified the J6er's defense and vilified the attacks by the capitol police on the crowd as well as the cowardly murder of unarmed, defenseless, harmless Ashli Babbitt.
The difference is clear. In one case, federal officers were executing a lawful raid—clearly identified, heavily armed, trained, and backed by lawful authority. In the other, a crowd broke into the Capitol during a joint session of Congress. If you're struggling to tell those apart, you're not defending justice—you're redefining it to suit a narrative.

Tell you what, give you a gun and then tattoo you upside the head with a nice hefty rock and see if your perspective changes.
If your best argument for deadly force is to imagine a rock in your hand and revenge in your heart, you're proving my point better than I ever could. Discipline under pressure isn't weakness—it's the reason we trust professionals with power in the first place.

Look, I as a white, male born in the USA tax paying citizen if I start throwing rocks at law enforcement I'm going to get shot all the way DEAD! So yeah, start mowing down these illegals and their traitor pals.
The rule of law isn’t supposed to change based on who throws the rock. If you're fine with executing strangers on a guess about their citizenship, you’ve traded your Constitution for a firing squad. That’s not justice—it’s just fear in uniform.
 
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That’s exactly why ICE should set the tone. When state support is shaky, the burden's higher—not lower—to show discipline. If locals don’t trust the feds, you don’t fix that by confirming their worst fears. You do it by enforcing the law with precision and integrity, not escalation. The cartels want chaos. Let’s not hand it to them.


Non-lethal weapons are exactly the kind of force that works because they disrupt without escalating. If both sides are primed for violence, the job isn’t to match it—it’s to outmaneuver it. Use the right tools, show control, and you win the crowd, not just the ground.


Sure—and only a professional handle that moment without letting adrenaline do the thinking. If someone wants to die throwing rocks, don’t give them the martyrdom they came for. Defuse the threat, don’t glorify the bloodshed. That’s what separates law from chaos.

The difference is clear. In one case, federal officers were executing a lawful raid—clearly identified, heavily armed, trained, and backed by lawful authority. In the other, a crowd broke into the Capitol during a joint session of Congress. If you're struggling to tell those apart, you're not defending justice—you're redefining it to suit a narrative.


If your best argument for deadly force is to imagine a rock in your hand and revenge in your heart, you're proving my point better than I ever could. Discipline under pressure isn't weakness—it's the reason we trust professionals with power in the first place.


The rule of law isn’t supposed to change based on who throws the rock. If you're fine with executing strangers on a guess about their citizenship, you’ve traded your Constitution for a firing squad. That’s not justice—it’s just fear in uniform.
You seem to think that non lethal force is going to work, Seth. What do you base that on? I've seen law enforcement using tear gas, pepper spray and rubber bullets for months now and the attacks continue on a nightly basis getting worse instead of better. Throwing a large rock at a speeding vehicle can be lethal. Doing so to prevent a Federal law enforcement official from doing his job is a crime. They should be tackled, zip tied and hauled off to jail. They should be charged to the maximum amount possible. They should not be bailed out to go right back and do it again.
 
One of the rioters in California appears to have shot at ICE agents with a hand gun...when are you on the left going to put a stop to this bullshit, Candy? They all need to be arrested and charged Federally.
If they brok the law...yep. arrest and charge. Shoot? Nope. When are you going to read the question in the title?
 
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