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That's what you call "logic?" So of the Constitution doesn't prohibit it, then I have a right to it? Do I have a right to own nuclear weapons? How about to make child pornography? Murder? Steal?What's the difference? If there's no prohibition then they have a right to it.The question is whether they have a right to one, not whether we can give them one.
Wrong.
It's obvious you are unable to commit logic.
Wrong. Your logic came to it's logical conclusion and failed you.
If there is no prohibition for an applicant for citizenship then by default they have the right to it as you have no justification to deny it.
What does any of that have to do with immigration?
So all rights can come only through the constitution?
If something is not prohibited then by default you have the right to it. There is no getting around that.
The we you keep abusing was intended for the people of that timeRead the preamble, moron.
You're in the running for the dumbest poster in the forum.
I'm going to nominate you for the "dummy of the month" award.
It doesn't mean what want it to mean.
You are only a citizen by an accident of birth.
You've not earned that right .
What did an illegal alien do to earn the right? Don't bother replying. We both know the answer is "nothing."
The only question that needs to be answered is "what's in our best interests?" Immigration of ignorant peasants from third world countries is definitely not in our best interests.
What is the current standard in place that outlines what is neccessary to " earn" a chance at citizenship?
What of those who have surpassed the standard of " best interest" ?
You're talking a lot, but saying nothing.
Virtually no one passes the test of "what's in our best interests." Name one person who benefits me by immigrating to this country. What I'm saying is that both legal and illegal immigration should be totally stopped.
Sorry to break it to you but not being a benefit to you is not a prequalifier.
Why stop immigration? What's your justification?
You absolutely have the right to sit on your lazy ass and not work. It's called being retired.That's what you call "logic?" So of the Constitution doesn't prohibit it, then I have a right to it? Do I have a right to own nuclear weapons? How about to make child pornography? Murder? Steal?What's the difference? If there's no prohibition then they have a right to it.
Wrong.
It's obvious you are unable to commit logic.
Wrong. Your logic came to it's logical conclusion and failed you.
If there is no prohibition for an applicant for citizenship then by default they have the right to it as you have no justification to deny it.
What does any of that have to do with immigration?
So all rights can come only through the constitution?
If something is not prohibited then by default you have the right to it. There is no getting around that.
I just provided you with multiple examples of where your "logic" fails. I don't have right to a Ferrari. I don't have a right to sit on my lazy but and not work. Foreigners don't have a right to immigrate to this country.
It's astounding that anyone could utter such stupidity.
The we you keep abusing was intended for the people of that time
It doesn't mean what want it to mean.
You are only a citizen by an accident of birth.
You've not earned that right .
What did an illegal alien do to earn the right? Don't bother replying. We both know the answer is "nothing."
The only question that needs to be answered is "what's in our best interests?" Immigration of ignorant peasants from third world countries is definitely not in our best interests.
What is the current standard in place that outlines what is neccessary to " earn" a chance at citizenship?
What of those who have surpassed the standard of " best interest" ?
You're talking a lot, but saying nothing.
Virtually no one passes the test of "what's in our best interests." Name one person who benefits me by immigrating to this country. What I'm saying is that both legal and illegal immigration should be totally stopped.
Sorry to break it to you but not being a benefit to you is not a prequalifier.
Why stop immigration? What's your justification?
Yes, it is a "prequalifier." Immigration laws that don't benefit the citizens of this country shouldn't be on the books. That's why we have a Congress: to make laws that benefit American citizens, not to make laws that are intended to harm American citizens. Open borders harm American citizens.
You're are one of the most profound imbeciles I've ever encountered.
You're are one of the most profound imbeciles I've ever encountered.
The Constitution says I have a right to be one......
You have made it perfectly clear over and over again that you have NO respect for or understanding of the Constitution and that you flat-out hate this country. Fuck you, get out.
I hate the government. That doesn't mean I hate the country. .....
You have made it very clear over and over and over that you hate my country. You sure as hell don't understand it. Get the fuck out, scumbag.
Hating tyrants like Lincoln doesn't equate to "hating your country.".....
No that would be you.Lol because that's who it was intended for .The we you keep abusing was intended for the people of that timeReally where?
Read the preamble, moron.
You're in the running for the dumbest poster in the forum.
I'm going to nominate you for the "dummy of the month" award.
It doesn't mean what want it to mean.
You are only a citizen by an accident of birth.
You've not earned that right .
You mean "we the people" doesn't mean "we the people?" What's the basis for your laughable claim that it only referred to people alive at the time?
You seem to forget or are too ignorant to realize that at the time there was no guarantee that the country would survive past their time.
One of use is stupid and ignorant and it ain't me.
In other words, you're right because you say so.
You're an idiot who knows nothing about history or the Constitution.
More absolute bullshit.Absolute bullshit.good change isn't so hard......bad change is.....and we've had nothing but bad change since your anti-American prez took office....
bringing in 1/4 of Mexico is going to destroy America....
Two points for you to ponder, Screaming Beagle:
Your party's and ideology downfall is directly linked to your prejudices in calling Obama an "anti-American"....and
Secondly, would it be too much of a shock for you to learn that a good chuck of the conservative south was once part of Mexico?
A president who is very vocal about gun regulations with every shooting that occurs. but remains carefully silent with regard to ISIS terrorists who had beheaded Americans, I wouldn't associate him as being a patriot. Especially when Obama went even further to defend them, through an effort to compare Muslim extremists with Christians and the crusades. Any president who is not willing to stand up for his own citizens, but is more concerned with saving his own "self" image through how he is portrayed from among the Muslims in the Midfle East, IS anti-American without a doubt.
That is so very easy to say. Tell me ... Why exactly did Obama choose to associate the Muslium extremists to Christians and the crusades, knowing full well the people and particularly the families of the victims still had a recent memory of ISIS beheading those Americans? Definitely not the best decision to make, yet he makes no apology for it. His condemning language appears so much softer and hesitant with the extremists than when he takes a stand against gun violence, to the point he often times can't even use the word terrorists to describe their acts.
Really you just did.That's what you call "logic?" So of the Constitution doesn't prohibit it, then I have a right to it? Do I have a right to own nuclear weapons? How about to make child pornography? Murder? Steal?What's the difference? If there's no prohibition then they have a right to it.
Wrong.
It's obvious you are unable to commit logic.
Wrong. Your logic came to it's logical conclusion and failed you.
If there is no prohibition for an applicant for citizenship then by default they have the right to it as you have no justification to deny it.
What does any of that have to do with immigration?
So all rights can come only through the constitution?
If something is not prohibited then by default you have the right to it. There is no getting around that.
I just provided you with multiple examples of where your "logic" fails. I don't have right to a Ferrari. I don't have a right to sit on my lazy but and not work. Foreigners don't have a right to immigrate to this country.
It's astounding that anyone could utter such stupidity.
His condemning language appears so much softer and hesitant with the extremists than when he takes a stand against gun violence, to the point he often times can't even use the word terrorists to describe their acts.
Obama's reluctance to use such terms as "extremism" is a calculated one.....and a wise one......All that such language would do is to undermine the much needed diplomacy in the Islamic communities, and only "please" domestic extremists.....like you who refer to a decent American president as a "Muslim" which has become the right wingers' euphemistic term for being black.
Time to grow up the world has never been a safe place.His condemning language appears so much softer and hesitant with the extremists than when he takes a stand against gun violence, to the point he often times can't even use the word terrorists to describe their acts.
Obama's reluctance to use such terms as "extremism" is a calculated one.....and a wise one......All that such language would do is to undermine the much needed diplomacy in the Islamic communities, and only "please" domestic extremists.....like you who refer to a decent American president as a "Muslim" which has become the right wingers' euphemistic term for being black.
Can you point out in my response where I referred to Obama as a Muslim and made it a focus of the discussion?
I was focusing in his rhetoric, how this president can speak aggressively on gun regulations with each shooting that occurs, while tip toeing how he responds to Muslim extremists, to which they are ... it's a matter of speaking a "fact" rather than ignoring it. Yes Obama is more concerned with his own self image with the Muslim community than he cares about those Americans which were beheaded. His efforts to be "politically correct" has NOT made us any safer, ISIS has not retreated in Iraq and Syria they have now expanded into regions of Africa. We are NOT any safer as a nation with Obama as president - period.
Time to grow up the world has never been a safe place.His condemning language appears so much softer and hesitant with the extremists than when he takes a stand against gun violence, to the point he often times can't even use the word terrorists to describe their acts.
Obama's reluctance to use such terms as "extremism" is a calculated one.....and a wise one......All that such language would do is to undermine the much needed diplomacy in the Islamic communities, and only "please" domestic extremists.....like you who refer to a decent American president as a "Muslim" which has become the right wingers' euphemistic term for being black.
Can you point out in my response where I referred to Obama as a Muslim and made it a focus of the discussion?
I was focusing in his rhetoric, how this president can speak aggressively on gun regulations with each shooting that occurs, while tip toeing how he responds to Muslim extremists, to which they are ... it's a matter of speaking a "fact" rather than ignoring it. Yes Obama is more concerned with his own self image with the Muslim community than he cares about those Americans which were beheaded. His efforts to be "politically correct" has NOT made us any safer, ISIS has not retreated in Iraq and Syria they have now expanded into regions of Africa. We are NOT any safer as a nation with Obama as president - period.
False gravity is the name we give an actual ongoing system.It's as man made as the concept of gravity.
Rights are a mental construct .
Wrong. Rights are a fact of nature. Rights are the rules that allow men to live together and thrive. Violate those rules and society declines. It's that simple.
Ok. Do immigrants have the right to citizenship in the US?
Mexicans and central Americans have just as much right to be citizens here as do people from India, England, Poland, Kenya, etc. no more or no less. Which is why everybody has to wait their turn for citizenship. Just because they have a convenient border to cross doesnt make it fair. Otherwise, lets just let 30 million people from every country in the world come here next month and well just 'sort it all out later'
Yes, they all have an equal right to be here: none.
False gravity is the name we give an actual ongoing system.
Rights are a mental construct .
Wrong. Rights are a fact of nature. Rights are the rules that allow men to live together and thrive. Violate those rules and society declines. It's that simple.
Ok. Do immigrants have the right to citizenship in the US?
Mexicans and central Americans have just as much right to be citizens here as do people from India, England, Poland, Kenya, etc. no more or no less. Which is why everybody has to wait their turn for citizenship. Just because they have a convenient border to cross doesnt make it fair. Otherwise, lets just let 30 million people from every country in the world come here next month and well just 'sort it all out later'
Yes, they all have an equal right to be here: none.
Legal immigration works great and adds the flavour of other cultures, but its important that we know who those people are, so that they do not have criminal records or have skills to offer. Its also important that they are comming here because they want to be Americans and not just coming here for the money.
Legal immigration needs to be stopped as well. How does it "work great?" The wages of software consultants hasn't increased in 15 years because of all the H1-Bs corporations have imported from India
We should let the middle east solve it's own problems.Time to grow up the world has never been a safe place.His condemning language appears so much softer and hesitant with the extremists than when he takes a stand against gun violence, to the point he often times can't even use the word terrorists to describe their acts.
Obama's reluctance to use such terms as "extremism" is a calculated one.....and a wise one......All that such language would do is to undermine the much needed diplomacy in the Islamic communities, and only "please" domestic extremists.....like you who refer to a decent American president as a "Muslim" which has become the right wingers' euphemistic term for being black.
Can you point out in my response where I referred to Obama as a Muslim and made it a focus of the discussion?
I was focusing in his rhetoric, how this president can speak aggressively on gun regulations with each shooting that occurs, while tip toeing how he responds to Muslim extremists, to which they are ... it's a matter of speaking a "fact" rather than ignoring it. Yes Obama is more concerned with his own self image with the Muslim community than he cares about those Americans which were beheaded. His efforts to be "politically correct" has NOT made us any safer, ISIS has not retreated in Iraq and Syria they have now expanded into regions of Africa. We are NOT any safer as a nation with Obama as president - period.
We have a trained advanced military, we need to stop wasting time using them as "advisors". It's time to use some intelligence and have them in combat to which they were trained to do, be aggressive in the war on terrrori nstead of being hesitant and afraid.
The grand dragon of chapter 666 klu klux Klan. Has spoken.Wrong. Rights are a fact of nature. Rights are the rules that allow men to live together and thrive. Violate those rules and society declines. It's that simple.
Ok. Do immigrants have the right to citizenship in the US?
Mexicans and central Americans have just as much right to be citizens here as do people from India, England, Poland, Kenya, etc. no more or no less. Which is why everybody has to wait their turn for citizenship. Just because they have a convenient border to cross doesnt make it fair. Otherwise, lets just let 30 million people from every country in the world come here next month and well just 'sort it all out later'
Yes, they all have an equal right to be here: none.
Legal immigration works great and adds the flavour of other cultures, but its important that we know who those people are, so that they do not have criminal records or have skills to offer. Its also important that they are comming here because they want to be Americans and not just coming here for the money.
Legal immigration needs to be stopped as well. How does it "work great?" The wages of software consultants hasn't increased in 15 years because of all the H1-Bs corporations have imported from India
Legal immigration needs to be stopped as well. How does it "work great?" The wages of software consultants hasn't increased in 15 years because of all the H1-Bs corporations have imported from India
But somehow you still like your cheap notebooks, laptops and PCs...Go figure.
The grand dragon of chapter 666 klu klux Klan. Has spoken.Ok. Do immigrants have the right to citizenship in the US?
Mexicans and central Americans have just as much right to be citizens here as do people from India, England, Poland, Kenya, etc. no more or no less. Which is why everybody has to wait their turn for citizenship. Just because they have a convenient border to cross doesnt make it fair. Otherwise, lets just let 30 million people from every country in the world come here next month and well just 'sort it all out later'
Yes, they all have an equal right to be here: none.
Legal immigration works great and adds the flavour of other cultures, but its important that we know who those people are, so that they do not have criminal records or have skills to offer. Its also important that they are comming here because they want to be Americans and not just coming here for the money.
Legal immigration needs to be stopped as well. How does it "work great?" The wages of software consultants hasn't increased in 15 years because of all the H1-Bs corporations have imported from India
