Should Churches be forced to accomodate for homosexual weddings?

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I see that the LGBT crew tries to nudge the poll numbers down from 83% and when they do, they just keep creeping back up again as more and more people vote on the biggest poll ever at USMB.

What does that REALLY say about the public's alleged "in favor of" gay marriage? This is a huge turnout with a huge result. Yes, it's not a topic that polling lends accurate results to. There are just some things people will never discuss in a public setting. They wait for the voting booth instead.

*crickets*....

It's actually much higher than that, given that "Other" is where we of the "HELL NO!" contingent voted...

 

[Silhouette]

So again... When the day comes that a 'newbee' comes along and asks the inevitable question: "Does anyone ever win any of these arguments, please bookmark this thread, so that you can link that individual to a first class example of what winning an argument looks like, as you answer that query through a profound "OH Hell yes! .... ."

Thank you all for your time and attention in considering this matter.

Well I hope you're right. Unless the day doesn't come because the social mores have softened with attrition and time to such a degree that there literally is a conservative ideology that breeds itself out of existence. How many homes will teach the Bible or any conservative values when two women or two men are playing at "mom and dad"? Once you reach that mental tipping point, there will be no more conservative ideas. We will have fully succombed to a new cult that will wholly replace christian values. They even admit this is their goal on almost a daily basis.

Time is our biggest enemy at this point. And conservatives in places to do something about this advancement and eventual extinction even of themselves..sit on their hands and do nothing. That's why I've postuled that Dick Cheney's daughter is behind this one. The lesbian. We know that what that man wants from his choir in the GOP, he is never denied.

Mary Mary quite contrary how do the campaigns go?
With wedding bells and broadside shells..
And cunning maids all in a row..

 

[MaryL]

Gays need marriage like a fish needs a bicycle. If the first church of Jim Jones wants to allow gay "marriage", I don't even know were to start on such a thing...No. Gays are using this issue to make themselves seem legit. Just don't even let them get this far...Sorry gay- lawyer- media- money dudes, not buying this drek. Not in a million years. The Tobacco industry tried this same crap, and folks understood eventually that special interest groups coopt reality. Gays are a mentally ill sexual dysfunctional group with just the same rights as anyone.

 

[Syriusly]

Arbitrary: based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.

Objective: not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

The design of the human species is that common to the natural order, wherein such is not influenced by either ANY individual present in this discussion, or the subjective need common to such. The design presents specific UNDENIABLE traits and attributes... not the least of which is the distinctions common to gender.

Marriage sets those distinct, but complimenting genders into ONE BEING; with their complimenting attributes being THE INCONTESTABLE PROOF, in terms of the design requiring them to be joined... from which is born a distinct being, which is then nurtured and trained within and through the traits common to the traits of the respective genders.

Such could NOT BE > LESS < arbitrary, nor MORE > OBJECTIVE < ... .

Your misuse and consistent abuse of the language is FTR: Yet another indication of the intrinsic evil, inherent in your cause. It serves as further proof that such rests in nothing less or more beyond the attempt to DECEIVE, through among others, that specific fraudulence, as a means to influence the ignorant.

Now the coolest part is that evil NEEDS to influence the ignorant, so as to establish a popular position in the culture... and wherein that culture is governed through democratic principles, such provides for the axiomatic path of least resistance toward accomplishing the destruction of same.

And we can rest assured that THIS is why Socialism NEEDS Democracy and why Democracies always die a fiery death... and generally in two centuries or less, as that provides for the 10 generations required to rinse from the people, the means to recognize, respect, defend and adhere to the principles in nature that provide for the viability that sustains their freedom.

Now HOW COOL IS THAT?

Why is it freedom and liberties always devolve into doing sex acts in front of or with kids? Gay pride parades, Harvey Milk.

Why is it you always lie about homosexuals?

 

[Syriusly]

Gays need marriage like a fish needs a bicycle. If the first church of Jim Jones wants to allow gay "marriage", I don't even know were to start on such a thing...No. Gays are using this issue to make themselves seem legit. Just don't even let them get this far...Sorry gay- lawyer- media- money dudes, not buying this drek. Not in a million years. The Tobacco industry tried this same crap, and folks understood eventually that special interest groups coopt reality. Gays are a mentally ill sexual dysfunctional group with just the same rights as anyone.

Yeah- folks like you are the reason why homosexuals need to fight for equal rights.

Not too long ago, homosexuals could be arrested for private consensual sex together- thanks to your people.
Not too long ago, homosexuals could be fired after serving honorably in combat- thanks to your people.
Not too long ago, homosexuals were 'cleansed' from the State department- anyone suspected of being a homosexual or accused of being one was fired.
Not too long ago, your people tried to make it illegal for homosexuals to teach in California schools.
Homosexual teens are still bullied and assaulted by your people.

The bigots are the mentally ill sexually dysfunctional group- after all- the only thing you focus on about homosexuals is sex.

 

[Syriusly]

That's why I've postuled that Dick Cheney's daughter is behind this one. The lesbian. ..

Bat Guano, bigoted, crazy.

 

[Syriusly]

What does that REALLY say about the public's alleged "in favor of" gay marriage?

Nothing at all, other than in your fevered imagination.

 

[Syriusly]

Arbitrary: based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.

Objective: not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

The design of the human species is that common to the natural order, wherein such is not influenced by either ANY individual present in this discussion, or the subjective need common to such. The design presents specific UNDENIABLE traits and attributes... not the least of which is the distinctions common to gender.

Marriage sets those distinct, but complimenting genders into ONE BEING; with their complimenting attributes being THE INCONTESTABLE PROOF, in terms of the design requiring them to be joined... from which is born a distinct being, which is then nurtured and trained within and through the traits common to the traits of the respective genders.

Such could NOT BE > LESS < arbitrary, nor MORE > OBJECTIVE < ... .

Your misuse and consistent abuse of the language is FTR: Yet another indication of the intrinsic evil, inherent in your cause. It serves as further proof that such rests in nothing less or more beyond the attempt to DECEIVE, through among others, that specific fraudulence, as a means to influence the ignorant.

Now the coolest part is that evil NEEDS to influence the ignorant, so as to establish a popular position in the culture... and wherein that culture is governed through democratic principles, such provides for the axiomatic path of least resistance toward accomplishing the destruction of same.

And we can rest assured that THIS is why Socialism NEEDS Democracy and why Democracies always die a fiery death... and generally in two centuries or less, as that provides for the 10 generations required to rinse from the people, the means to recognize, respect, defend and adhere to the principles in nature that provide for the viability that sustains their freedom.

Now HOW COOL IS THAT?

Why is it freedom and liberties always devolve into doing sex acts in front of or with kids? Gay pride parades, Harvey Milk.

Well, such is the nature of evil, of course... .

Such is the nature of liars.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

City Says Ministers Don t Have to Perform Gay Marriages but...

it took a lawsuit to get them to say so.

 

[Silhouette]

Gays need marriage like a fish needs a bicycle. If the first church of Jim Jones wants to allow gay "marriage", I don't even know were to start on such a thing...No. Gays are using this issue to make themselves seem legit. Just don't even let them get this far...Sorry gay- lawyer- media- money dudes, not buying this drek. Not in a million years. The Tobacco industry tried this same crap, and folks understood eventually that special interest groups coopt reality. Gays are a mentally ill sexual dysfunctional group with just the same rights as anyone.

Aha!...someone has done some partial research on the genesis of the far left. There's another cult though responsible at least in part for starting GLAAD. It's a lesser known but far more potent one.

 

[Syriusly]

City Says Ministers Don t Have to Perform Gay Marriages but...

it took a lawsuit to get them to say so.

Actually they said so before the lawsuit.

Which is why they were surprised by the lawsuit.

 

[Syriusly]

Gays need marriage like a fish needs a bicycle. If the first church of Jim Jones wants to allow gay "marriage", I don't even know were to start on such a thing...No. Gays are using this issue to make themselves seem legit. Just don't even let them get this far...Sorry gay- lawyer- media- money dudes, not buying this drek. Not in a million years. The Tobacco industry tried this same crap, and folks understood eventually that special interest groups coopt reality. Gays are a mentally ill sexual dysfunctional group with just the same rights as anyone.

Aha!...someone has done some partial research on the genesis of the far left. There's another cult though responsible at least in part for starting GLAAD. It's a lesser known but far more potent one.

More bat guano crazy......

 

[Silhouette]

City Says Ministers Don t Have to Perform Gay Marriages but...

it took a lawsuit to get them to say so.

How many people will be able to countersue the government when it becomes the iron fist of the Rainbow Reicht?

This is an important issue for people, viscerally so. This is leaps and bounds the most numerous poll...I think ever...at USMB. But apparently though according to other polls, this topic isn't important.

Hard to square those different numbers...

 

[WorldWatcher]

Hard to square those different numbers...

Not really.

You are trying to make a poll on a message board say something the poll doesn't even say.

Pretty easy.


>>>>

 

[Syriusly]

City Says Ministers Don t Have to Perform Gay Marriages but...

it took a lawsuit to get them to say so.

How many people will be able to countersue the government when it becomes the iron fist of the Rainbow Reicht?
...

"Rainbow Reich"......"Gay Mafia"......homophobes have such a vivid fantasy world......

 

[Silhouette]

Hard to square those different numbers...

Not really.
You are trying to make a poll on a message board say something the poll doesn't even say.
Pretty easy.

This thread has gotten near or over 34,000 views. The poll is one of the largest [most popular topic] polls EVER at USMB. And well over 80% of the voters say they think there's a point where gay marraige goes too far imposing itself on society.

How does that render into anything but

1. Extremely lukewarm support or just fear of not supporting gay marriage or

2. Outright opposition to gay marriage?

This is a vote goldmine that "conservatives" are ignoring as their numbers slip in the polls as we speak.

Mary Mary quite contrary
How do your campaigns go?
With wedding bells and broadside shells
and cunning maids all in a row..

 

[Syriusly]

Hard to square those different numbers...

Not really.
You are trying to make a poll on a message board say something the poll doesn't even say.
Pretty easy.

2. Outright opposition to gay marriage?
..

The poll is neither a true poll, nor does it ask about whether posters oppose gay marriage.

You just lie about it.

 

[dblack]

Hard to square those different numbers...

Not really.
You are trying to make a poll on a message board say something the poll doesn't even say.
Pretty easy.

This thread has gotten near or over 34,000 views. The poll is one of the largest [most popular topic] polls EVER at USMB. And well over 80% of the voters say they think there's a point where gay marraige goes too far imposing itself on society.

The issue isn't 'gay marriage', it's overbearing government. Don't try to pretend that all, or even most, of those "80%" are fellow bigots.

 

[Silhouette]

This question of the poll has nothing to do with 'gay marriage', and everything to do with overbearing government. Don't try to pretend that all, or even most, of those "80%" are fellow bigots.

Right, the topic, poll and issue of this thread "has nothing to do with 'gay marriage'".... Well if you weren't convinced before about the LGBT spin machine, you now no longer can deny that it is complete:

 

[mdk]

This question of the poll has nothing to do with 'gay marriage', and everything to do with overbearing government. Don't try to pretend that all, or even most, of those "80%" are fellow bigots.

Right, the topic, poll and issue of this thread "has nothing to do with 'gay marriage'".... Well if you weren't convinced before about the LGBT spin machine, you now no longer can deny that it is complete:

It is comical that you would accuse someone else of spinning. How rich. You've been spinning the results of this poll for several weeks now. You keep claiming that this poll also means that 80% also oppose gays getting married. Hint: it doesn't. That fact has been pointed out to you dozens of times in this thread, literally, dozens of time. You have chosen to ignore countless polls that show a majority of Americans support gay marriage because it doesn't fit your rabid anti-gay agenda. The "proof" you provide is a USMB poll, long lines at a food restaurant, and "likes" on a Facebook page. It reeks of desperation. It must be hard for you lately, not only losing in the court of public opinion but losing in the courts of law as well.