Zone1 Should Christians make an effort to understand and learn from Jewish dietary restrictions?

[ding]

No, its equivalent to saying that any fairy tale is false if you take it literally, can't grasp the deeper implications or decipher the complicate metaphors like talking serpents, rising from the dead, giving sight to the blind, and learn the lessons intended to be understood by the children of tent dwelling nomads who knew that serpents don't talk ever since they learned how to walk and talk

You are all over the map. You can't make up your mind which way to go. You claim the Jesus in the Gospels was a creation of Rome, yet you keep interpreting those passages as if they were gospel.

 

[Zebra]

Thank you! I enjoy photographing owls...and this one seems sleepy and happy.

ok

 

[hobelim]

You claim the Jesus in the Gospels was a creation of Rome, yet you keep interpreting those passages as if they were gospel.

Damn.

The Jesus that you munch on at mass is a perverse fabrication of Rome, a false counterfeit Jesus, an edible triune mangod whose amazing supernatural miracles of the lie that scripture is to be taken literally does not correspond to any real living human being ever in actual existence.

The Jesus that you have never seen and do not know whose teachings I have revealed, without adding, subtracting, or changing a single word, has been obscured for millennia by figurative language used in the Gospels which has remained above your grasp and the grasp of Rome ever since the stories were first uploaded into the belly of the scarlet beast as a curse. Rev. 19:15

This is what I have revealed. Ta da! I will now take a bow!

I will tell you something. Again and again and again and again. Try to hear. Your life depends on it

In the very day that you first set aside the Divine commands decades ago and turned to a lifeless matzo made by human hands for spiritual life, you died and descended into the netherworld, the realm of the dead, where you remain to this day tormented day and night by actual reality which contradicts your irrational beliefs day and night like a raging consuming fire that will never go out

Thats why you can't comprehend what is obvious to any child who ever learned how to understand fairy tales. The stories were never intended to be taken literally by the intelligent.

You have just been misled by the Roman church. Is that really too hard to believe mr believer?

Now piss off.

I have spoken.

 

[ding]

Damn.

The Jesus that you munch on at mass is a perverse fabrication of Rome, a false counterfeit Jesus, an edible triune mangod whose amazing supernatural miracles of the lie that scripture is to be taken literally does not correspond to any real living human being ever in actual existence.

The Jesus that you have never seen and do not know whose teachings I have revealed, without adding, subtracting, or changing a single word, has been obscured for millennia by figurative language used in the Gospels which has remained above your grasp and the grasp of Rome ever since the stories were first uploaded into the belly of the scarlet beast as a curse. Rev. 19:15

This is what I have revealed. Ta da! I will now take a bow!

I will tell you something. Again and again and again and again. Try to hear. Your life depends on it

In the very day that you first set aside the Divine commands decades ago and turned to a lifeless matzo made by human hands for spiritual life, you died and descended into the netherworld, the realm of the dead, where you remain to this day tormented day and night by actual reality which contradicts your irrational beliefs day and night like a raging consuming fire that will never go out

Thats why you can't comprehend what is obvious to any child who ever learned how to understand fairy tales. The stories were never intended to be taken literally by the intelligent.

You have just been misled by the Roman church. Is that really too hard to believe mr believer?

Now piss off.

I have spoken.

That's a lot of words. I must have triggered you good.

time to make my reply... 5 seconds

 

[hobelim]

That's a lot of words. I must have triggered you good.

No, that wasn't many words. And no, you have not triggered me at all. I just set things straight and your lack of words in response is evidence that the prince of this world stands condemned.

time to make my reply... 5 seconds

Thats because thinking is not your strong suit. Thats why swine that do not ruminate are unclean

Anyway, thanks for proving every one of those 'many words'. Mazel tov!

Oinker.

 

[ding]

No, that wasn't many words. And no, you have not triggered me at all. I just set things straight and your lack of words in response is evidence that the prince of this world stands condemned.


Thats because thinking is not your strong suit. Thats why swine that do not ruminate are unclean

Anyway, thanks for proving every one of those 'many words'. Mazel tov!

Oinker.

I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. You only have yourself.

Also only took 5 seconds.

 

[hobelim]

I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

Apparently you can't do something as easy as not worshiping the lifeless work of human hands.
Where is your edible Christ? What strength do you have? The amazing ability to stoop low? Wow

You only have yourself.

Also only took 5 seconds.

No, I have Moses, the prophets, myriads and myriads of angels and saints, and Jesus himself.

Brace yourself sheila. The hosts of Heaven are coming! The hosts of Heaven are coming!

Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.....

 

[ding]

Apparently you can't do something as easy as not worshiping the lifeless work of human hands.
Where is your edible Christ? What strength do you have? The amazing ability to stoop low? Wow

“Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves. He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. For My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink. He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. (John 6:53–56)

 

[ding]

No, I have Moses, the prophets, myriads and myriads of angels and saints, and Jesus himself.

Brace yourself sheila. The hosts of Heaven are coming! The hosts of Heaven are coming!

Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.....

You have yourself

 

[rstrats]

The dietary restrictions were largely how not to die in the age before modern preservation technology.

Do you have a date when the supreme being lifted His dietary restrictions because of technology?

 

[ReinyDays]

Do you have a date when the supreme being lifted His dietary restrictions because of technology?

Christmas Day ...

 

[rstrats]

Christmas Day ...

What technology became available on the day that the Messiah was born?

 

[hobelim]

Do you have a date when the supreme being lifted His dietary restrictions because of technology?

The subject of the dietary law is not food, it is about discerning between clean and unclean teaching of creatures that are metaphors for human archetypes. People are free to fill their mind with irrational crap but then they will lose their sanity, not as a punishment, but as a result of cause and effect. The dietary Laws are not about what goes into your mouth and out of your ass.

These laws will never be lifted. As long as there are people on earth what they put into their mind and what comes out of their mouth will always have consequences whether for good or evil.

 

[ReinyDays]

What technology became available on the day that the Messiah was born?

All of it ... have you read the Bible? ... do you understand Christmas Day in the context of Roman technologies? ...

This is funny because it's true ...

 

[rstrats]

All of it ... have you read the Bible? ... do you understand Christmas Day in the context of Roman technologies? ...

This is funny because it's true ...

OH, yeah, I had forgotten about that. Too bad Peter hadn't been informed about it 40 years later.

 

[Hector12]

Jewish laws about what is clean and unclean often reveal an awareness of how germs and other parasites spread disease. Most detergents are kosher certified for this reason.

 

[ReinyDays]

OH, yeah, I had forgotten about that. Too bad Peter hadn't been informed about it 40 years later.

It's not technology ... it's mercy ... the Second Covenant judgement...

 

[ReinyDays]

Jewish laws about what is clean and unclean often reveal an awareness of how germs and other parasites spread disease. Most detergents are kosher certified for this reason.

Specifically trichinosis ... still a problem today ...

 

[rstrats]

The subject of the dietary law is not food,

Of course it is. There is nothing in the Levitical dietary rules with regard to clean and unclean animals that could make anyone think they're not about food.

The dietary Laws are not about what goes into your mouth and out of your ass.

Correct. They have nothing to do with the issue in Mark 7.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Note I do not ask "to follow Jewish dietary restrictions."

Here's my point: Jesus said that he was not here to change one jot or one tittle of the law - jot and tittle being small marks in letters, such as the dot above a lower case i. I'll leave the history lesson about why early Christian missionaries did not require non-Jewish converts to honor Jewish dietary restrictions as they did the Ten Commandments to more knowledgeable folk.

I will say that it would seem strange that Christians would often openly flout laws by eating bacon cheeseburgers, for example. Of course the answer to that is that most Christians do not know why a bacon cheeseburger would be such an anathema. It a deliberate ignorance, in my opinion. Not on the part of the followers, but on the part of the leaders, eager to avoid giving their flock a reason to leave the fold.

Modern science shows that most, if not all, of the dietary restrictions lead to a healthier diet. Should not Christian pastors cite this as an example of God's wisdom? Should they not speak of shellfish and other proscribed foods as tolerated, if not consumed to excess, much as many Christians view alcohol?

These are not "Jewish restrictions".
If you are truly called by God to separate from this world, you WONT eat anything God said not to eat -- all "Christian" rationalization aside.

GOd SAYS, Don't eat that!