Should atheists be allowed to have children?

[rightwinger]

One of the commies? lol

Apparently you should look up the definition of "communist". Regardless of who I vote for, an atheist is not necessarily a communist.

We never hear people claim to be commies, because commies hate to be identified as such. Of course you deny being a commie. The reason why you couldn't answer my question is because you are planning to vote for one of the america-hating anti-capitalism commies in 2020.

LOL! The reason I am not answering your question is because it is none of your damned business. I am not identified by who I voted for in the last election.

But I will tell you I have worked hard to earn my money. I have saved it so I don't have to depend on the gov't to keep me alive in my old age. I thinks the tax burden needs to be spread evenly across the board (Fair Tax Act). And I believe things work best when the gov't gets out of the way and out of our pockets.

But you go ahead and think I am a communist, just because I am an atheist. It sounds like you made up your mind without knowing the facts, so I won't confuse you with them.

You are evasive about the fact that you are planning to vote for one of the commies in 2020. Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are. You go on being the commie atheist that you are, and I'll be voting for the only capitalist who will be running in 2020.

Are you now, or have you ever, been a member of the Communist Party?

Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are so they claim to be any of the common political identifiers instead. Dem, repub, socialist, libertarian, proggressive, lefty, even conservative. Being a member of the Communist party would make it hard for commies to hide, but there are commies who are Communists as well. The commies who hide behind the other political identifiers will push hard to sell the notion that the only commies there are, are members of the Communist party. This is because commies hate being identified as the commies they are.

You dodged the question

Are you now, or have you ever, been a member of the Communist Party?

Are any of your friends or coworkers Communist?
I need names

 

[EvMetro]

Are you voting for Trump in 2020, or are you voting for one of the commies?

One of the commies? lol

Apparently you should look up the definition of "communist". Regardless of who I vote for, an atheist is not necessarily a communist.

We never hear people claim to be commies, because commies hate to be identified as such. Of course you deny being a commie. The reason why you couldn't answer my question is because you are planning to vote for one of the america-hating anti-capitalism commies in 2020.

LOL! The reason I am not answering your question is because it is none of your damned business. I am not identified by who I voted for in the last election.

But I will tell you I have worked hard to earn my money. I have saved it so I don't have to depend on the gov't to keep me alive in my old age. I thinks the tax burden needs to be spread evenly across the board (Fair Tax Act). And I believe things work best when the gov't gets out of the way and out of our pockets.

But you go ahead and think I am a communist, just because I am an atheist. It sounds like you made up your mind without knowing the facts, so I won't confuse you with them.

You are evasive about the fact that you are planning to vote for one of the commies in 2020. Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are. You go on being the commie atheist that you are, and I'll be voting for the only capitalist who will be running in 2020.

I am not being evasive. I am simply refusing to answer a question that is irrelevant to the topic.

If I say I am voting for one of the democrats, you say I am a communist.

If I refuse to say who gets my vote, you decide I am voting for one of the democrats and I am a communist.

How about I just say I am voting for Trump? Does that help? Yep, Trump gets my vote.

I also own my own business (I am an independent contractor). How does that work with the whole "you are a communist" idea?

Lol... you aren't being evasive, you just arent answering? Yea.

If you are voting for one of the commies in 2020, which you are indeed planning to do, it shows that you are a commie. You can claim you are voting for the capitalist, but it is already apparent that you plan to vote for one of the commies.

Owning your own business or having a retirement account in a capitalist society doesn't mean you aren't a commie. Commies can do what needs to be done to survive here, but they will vote to dismantle capitalism. You are an evasive commie atheist.

 

[EvMetro]

We never hear people claim to be commies, because commies hate to be identified as such. Of course you deny being a commie. The reason why you couldn't answer my question is because you are planning to vote for one of the america-hating anti-capitalism commies in 2020.

LOL! The reason I am not answering your question is because it is none of your damned business. I am not identified by who I voted for in the last election.

But I will tell you I have worked hard to earn my money. I have saved it so I don't have to depend on the gov't to keep me alive in my old age. I thinks the tax burden needs to be spread evenly across the board (Fair Tax Act). And I believe things work best when the gov't gets out of the way and out of our pockets.

But you go ahead and think I am a communist, just because I am an atheist. It sounds like you made up your mind without knowing the facts, so I won't confuse you with them.

You are evasive about the fact that you are planning to vote for one of the commies in 2020. Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are. You go on being the commie atheist that you are, and I'll be voting for the only capitalist who will be running in 2020.

Are you now, or have you ever, been a member of the Communist Party?

Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are so they claim to be any of the common political identifiers instead. Dem, repub, socialist, libertarian, proggressive, lefty, even conservative. Being a member of the Communist party would make it hard for commies to hide, but there are commies who are Communists as well. The commies who hide behind the other political identifiers will push hard to sell the notion that the only commies there are, are members of the Communist party. This is because commies hate being identified as the commies they are.

You dodged the question

Are you now, or have you ever, been a member of the Communist Party?

Are any of your friends or coworkers Communist?
I need names

Nice dodge. The reason why you protect the notion that commies are only commies if they are members of the communist party is because you intend to utilize the shelter it provides from being exposed as the commie you are. Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are.

 

[EvMetro]

We never hear people claim to be commies, because commies hate to be identified as such. Of course you deny being a commie. The reason why you couldn't answer my question is because you are planning to vote for one of the america-hating anti-capitalism commies in 2020.

LOL! The reason I am not answering your question is because it is none of your damned business. I am not identified by who I voted for in the last election.

But I will tell you I have worked hard to earn my money. I have saved it so I don't have to depend on the gov't to keep me alive in my old age. I thinks the tax burden needs to be spread evenly across the board (Fair Tax Act). And I believe things work best when the gov't gets out of the way and out of our pockets.

But you go ahead and think I am a communist, just because I am an atheist. It sounds like you made up your mind without knowing the facts, so I won't confuse you with them.

You are evasive about the fact that you are planning to vote for one of the commies in 2020. Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are. You go on being the commie atheist that you are, and I'll be voting for the only capitalist who will be running in 2020.

Are you now, or have you ever, been a member of the Communist Party?

Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are so they claim to be any of the common political identifiers instead. Dem, repub, socialist, libertarian, proggressive, lefty, even conservative. Being a member of the Communist party would make it hard for commies to hide, but there are commies who are Communists as well. The commies who hide behind the other political identifiers will push hard to sell the notion that the only commies there are, are members of the Communist party. This is because commies hate being identified as the commies they are.

So now Libertarians are communists? lol

Wow. Just wow.

Indeed, commies will gladly hide behind the political identifier "libertarian". Since commies hate being exposed as the commies they are, they will hide behind ANY political identifier. Ever see a commie claim to be a commie?

 

[rightwinger]

LOL! The reason I am not answering your question is because it is none of your damned business. I am not identified by who I voted for in the last election.

But I will tell you I have worked hard to earn my money. I have saved it so I don't have to depend on the gov't to keep me alive in my old age. I thinks the tax burden needs to be spread evenly across the board (Fair Tax Act). And I believe things work best when the gov't gets out of the way and out of our pockets.

But you go ahead and think I am a communist, just because I am an atheist. It sounds like you made up your mind without knowing the facts, so I won't confuse you with them.

You are evasive about the fact that you are planning to vote for one of the commies in 2020. Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are. You go on being the commie atheist that you are, and I'll be voting for the only capitalist who will be running in 2020.

Are you now, or have you ever, been a member of the Communist Party?

Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are so they claim to be any of the common political identifiers instead. Dem, repub, socialist, libertarian, proggressive, lefty, even conservative. Being a member of the Communist party would make it hard for commies to hide, but there are commies who are Communists as well. The commies who hide behind the other political identifiers will push hard to sell the notion that the only commies there are, are members of the Communist party. This is because commies hate being identified as the commies they are.

You dodged the question

Are you now, or have you ever, been a member of the Communist Party?

Are any of your friends or coworkers Communist?
I need names

Nice dodge. The reason why you protect the notion that commies are only commies if they are members of the communist party is because you intend to utilize the shelter it provides from being exposed as the commie you are. Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are.

Answer the damned question!

Are you now, or have you ever, been a member of the Communist Party?

We have people watching you, you better be honest

 

[james bond]

Catholic, never got it in Sunday School

That explains why you do not have it right as we have arguments among the believers.

You don’t really believe that Goofy stuff do you?
Kind of Lord of the Rings

Lord of the Rings was based on a book written as fantasy, but if one didn't know that it can easily be disproved as there is no place as Middle-earth. OTOH, the Bible is non-fiction and historical.

You don’t think the Bible was written as fantasy?

All that magical stuff and arks and splitting of seas?

Haha. You should have paid attention in Catholic school. I went to a private parochial school until sixth grade when we moved and attended its church and a neighborhood Catholic church a couple blocks away. I always thought there was a God due to awe and the wonders of nature. It's beauty and complexity. I didn't know what creation science was, but I started reading CS Lewis as an adult and the creation websites such as AIG, ICR, and CMI.

You probably didn't pay attention to your grammar school reader and workbook. Anyway, how did you come to think and be convinced that all of it was fairy tale instead of history? What book or media convinced you it was a fairy tale? I can see if someone is ignorant of the Bible, but you were exposed to some of its stories. Around what age did it happen? The first part I didn't understand were the long ages of the people. As an adult, I began reading the Bible again in 2012, and it made me question those occurrences. Matthew was a difficult book to read, but not Genesis or the science parts.

Prior to it, I believed in evolution learning it for myself through required school courses or Understanding Evolution. However, from 2007 to 2011, some scientific articles came out questioning evolution. There are pieces that do not fit the big bang or singularity. Astrophysicists like Hawking and others started looking at multiverses and theorized it could happen through wormholes. How big bang happened does not make sense in astrophysics nor physics, but its expansion had to happen due to the CMB evidence. The singularity and cosmic expansion hypothesis violates the laws of physics. Thus, there was some kind of universal expansion, but it wasn't caused by singularity nor cosmic expansion.

 

[WinterBorn]

One of the commies? lol

Apparently you should look up the definition of "communist". Regardless of who I vote for, an atheist is not necessarily a communist.

We never hear people claim to be commies, because commies hate to be identified as such. Of course you deny being a commie. The reason why you couldn't answer my question is because you are planning to vote for one of the america-hating anti-capitalism commies in 2020.

LOL! The reason I am not answering your question is because it is none of your damned business. I am not identified by who I voted for in the last election.

But I will tell you I have worked hard to earn my money. I have saved it so I don't have to depend on the gov't to keep me alive in my old age. I thinks the tax burden needs to be spread evenly across the board (Fair Tax Act). And I believe things work best when the gov't gets out of the way and out of our pockets.

But you go ahead and think I am a communist, just because I am an atheist. It sounds like you made up your mind without knowing the facts, so I won't confuse you with them.

You are evasive about the fact that you are planning to vote for one of the commies in 2020. Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are. You go on being the commie atheist that you are, and I'll be voting for the only capitalist who will be running in 2020.

I am not being evasive. I am simply refusing to answer a question that is irrelevant to the topic.

If I say I am voting for one of the democrats, you say I am a communist.

If I refuse to say who gets my vote, you decide I am voting for one of the democrats and I am a communist.

How about I just say I am voting for Trump? Does that help? Yep, Trump gets my vote.

I also own my own business (I am an independent contractor). How does that work with the whole "you are a communist" idea?

Lol... you aren't being evasive, you just arent answering? Yea.

If you are voting for one of the commies in 2020, which you are indeed planning to do, it shows that you are a commie. You can claim you are voting for the capitalist, but it is already apparent that you plan to vote for one of the commies.

Owning your own business or having a retirement account in a capitalist society doesn't mean you aren't a commie. Commies can do what needs to be done to survive here, but they will vote to dismantle capitalism. You are an evasive commie atheist.

So lets review.

First, since I refuse to say who I am voting for, you insist I am voting for one of the Dems, and therefore a communist.

Then, I say I am voting for Trump. And you insist that you already know who I am voting for, and I am not only lying about voting for Trump, I am still a communist.

Then you insist that by owning a business and doing well as a capitalist is just a smoke-screen for being a communist and wanting to dismantle capitalism. Despite capitalism being the engine by which I am building my retirement account.

Funny that we have never met, and yet you insist you know so much about me based solely on the fact that I am an atheist. lol

 

[WinterBorn]

LOL! The reason I am not answering your question is because it is none of your damned business. I am not identified by who I voted for in the last election.

But I will tell you I have worked hard to earn my money. I have saved it so I don't have to depend on the gov't to keep me alive in my old age. I thinks the tax burden needs to be spread evenly across the board (Fair Tax Act). And I believe things work best when the gov't gets out of the way and out of our pockets.

But you go ahead and think I am a communist, just because I am an atheist. It sounds like you made up your mind without knowing the facts, so I won't confuse you with them.

You are evasive about the fact that you are planning to vote for one of the commies in 2020. Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are. You go on being the commie atheist that you are, and I'll be voting for the only capitalist who will be running in 2020.

Are you now, or have you ever, been a member of the Communist Party?

Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are so they claim to be any of the common political identifiers instead. Dem, repub, socialist, libertarian, proggressive, lefty, even conservative. Being a member of the Communist party would make it hard for commies to hide, but there are commies who are Communists as well. The commies who hide behind the other political identifiers will push hard to sell the notion that the only commies there are, are members of the Communist party. This is because commies hate being identified as the commies they are.

So now Libertarians are communists? lol

Wow. Just wow.

Indeed, commies will gladly hide behind the political identifier "libertarian". Since commies hate being exposed as the commies they are, they will hide behind ANY political identifier. Ever see a commie claim to be a commie?

Has it ever occurred to you that people will say what they are based on what they actually ARE?

Or do you just see "commies" hiding behind every bush?

 

[WinterBorn]

LOL! The reason I am not answering your question is because it is none of your damned business. I am not identified by who I voted for in the last election.

But I will tell you I have worked hard to earn my money. I have saved it so I don't have to depend on the gov't to keep me alive in my old age. I thinks the tax burden needs to be spread evenly across the board (Fair Tax Act). And I believe things work best when the gov't gets out of the way and out of our pockets.

But you go ahead and think I am a communist, just because I am an atheist. It sounds like you made up your mind without knowing the facts, so I won't confuse you with them.

You are evasive about the fact that you are planning to vote for one of the commies in 2020. Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are. You go on being the commie atheist that you are, and I'll be voting for the only capitalist who will be running in 2020.

Are you now, or have you ever, been a member of the Communist Party?

Commies hate being exposed as the commies they are so they claim to be any of the common political identifiers instead. Dem, repub, socialist, libertarian, proggressive, lefty, even conservative. Being a member of the Communist party would make it hard for commies to hide, but there are commies who are Communists as well. The commies who hide behind the other political identifiers will push hard to sell the notion that the only commies there are, are members of the Communist party. This is because commies hate being identified as the commies they are.

So now Libertarians are communists? lol

Wow. Just wow.

Indeed, commies will gladly hide behind the political identifier "libertarian". Since commies hate being exposed as the commies they are, they will hide behind ANY political identifier. Ever see a commie claim to be a commie?

It seems like you spend a lot of time and energy accusing people of being commies.

I think you are probably a commie looking to hide by accusing others.

 

[EvMetro]

So lets review.

First, since I refuse to say who I am voting for, you insist I am voting for one of the Dems, and therefore a communist.

I am saying that commies hate to be exposed as the commies that they are, and that your evasive behavior about who you are planning to vote for in 2020 is typical of commies. If you are claiming that you are not a commie, you wouldn't be voting for a commie, which is why you are trying to hide that you are voting for a commie.

Then, I say I am voting for Trump. And you insist that you already know who I am voting for, and I am not only lying about voting for Trump, I am still a communist.

You made it clear that you were saying that you would vote for Trump for the sake of discussion only, but not in real life. Typical commie behavior.

Then you insist that by owning a business and doing well as a capitalist is just a smoke-screen for being a communist and wanting to dismantle capitalism. Despite capitalism being the engine by which I am building my retirement account.

I did not say this. This is pencil neck style paraphrasing that suggests you are a commie.

Funny that we have never met, and yet you insist you know so much about me based solely on the fact that I am an atheist. lol

You are not just an atheist, you are a commie atheist who is planning to vote for a commie.

 

[EvMetro]

Has it ever occurred to you that people will say what they are based on what they actually ARE?

Or do you just see "commies" hiding behind every bush?

Many folks just say what they are, but commies are much different. Commies hate to be exposed as the commies they are, which is why they hide behind bushes, hijacked political identifying terms, buildings, or anyplace they can exist while keeping their commie identity hidden. Have you noticed how you don't see many people identifying as commies? Commies are like cockroaches that lurk in the darkness doing bad things, but then scatter the instant the lights are flipped on.

 

[EvMetro]

It seems like you spend a lot of time and energy accusing people of being commies.

I think you are probably a commie looking to hide by accusing others.

I am a biker and a sailor who will NEVER forget the pow, mia, and all of the fallen who have paid the ultimate price defending freedom from commies. In return for what they gave, I promise to live free or to die. I solemnly do swear to fight commies till the day I die.

 

[rightwinger]

It seems like you spend a lot of time and energy accusing people of being commies.

I think you are probably a commie looking to hide by accusing others.

I am a biker and a sailor who will NEVER forget the pow, mia, and all of the fallen who have paid the ultimate price defending freedom from commies. In return for what they gave, I promise to live free or to die. I solemnly do swear to fight commies till the day I die.

But you hate John McCain

 

[EvMetro]

It seems like you spend a lot of time and energy accusing people of being commies.

I think you are probably a commie looking to hide by accusing others.

I am a biker and a sailor who will NEVER forget the pow, mia, and all of the fallen who have paid the ultimate price defending freedom from commies. In return for what they gave, I promise to live free or to die. I solemnly do swear to fight commies till the day I die.

But you hate John McCain

How do you propose this would change what you quoted of me?

 

[ABikerSailor]

I am a biker and a sailor who will NEVER forget the pow, mia, and all of the fallen who have paid the ultimate price defending freedom from commies. In return for what they gave, I promise to live free or to die. I solemnly do swear to fight commies till the day I die.

Navy eh? What commands, and when?

 

[rightwinger]

Atheists make better parents than evangelicals

Evangelicals raise their kids to be assholes

 

[Syriusly]

Here are some of the dangers of allowing atheists to raise or parent children, and rationale for having the removed from the state, perhaps transferred to superior religious families in many cases:

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1. Moral nihilism - an atheistic worldview, could be used to justify rape, murder, pedophilia, and other illegal or immoral practices and worldviews, with notable atheists such as de Sade, or Max Stirner sharing such view.

2. Anarchy - Many atheistic worldviews make dangerous claims (anti-social claims, such as that children are "atheists" until society "indoctrinates them"). This, as above, is a dangerous and anarchic claim, as well as one which has been debunked by various studies, such as by the University of Oxford.

The reality, of course, as per the Common Law system, regardless of what children are "born with", or not - the state does legally impose a bare minimum threshold of "religion" and moral order upon people, whether children or adults, such as criminalizing rape, theft, murder, and so on, or other practices which would be potentially acceptable via an atheistic worldview; such as system may not be able to "make people moral", but it can, at least force them not to be outright "immoral".

Having evolved from older legal systems, including "religious" ones such as Exodus, and incorporating religious morality, such as components of the Golden Rule, completely anti-thetical to many atheistic beliefs and worldviews.

3. Anti-intellectualism or cultural "philistinism; many atheists assert childish and idiotic views, such as that "life is meaningless", or that anything they "can't see with their own eyes" (e.x. mathematics, Newton's physical laws and abstractions) doesn't exist, or equate themselves with animals, despite the Common law and society mandating a higher level of morality and respect for other people.

This of course, is at odds with many of the legal and moral philosophers who helped to build and develop the society or societies we are a part of today, even "secular" ones, such as John Stuart Mill, who famously asserted that it is better to be a man (or woman) dissatisfied, than a "pig" or "beast" satisfied.

As an immoral atheist or heathen fancies himself little more than a beast, his worldview is immediately antithetical to society and the philosophy, incorporating many components of the philosophies of older societies and thinkers, many of which, such as the Golden Rule and its relation to the Common Law, of course being "Christian" or "religious" in that regard.

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Based on these assertions, I see probable cause to assert that these worldview(s) of atheists are potentially not acceptable or compatible with the legal institutions of America or Britain, and could be grounds for criminalizing atheism or atheistic propaganda, or removing the children from atheistic homes on the grounds of criminal child abuse; as what could be more abusive than indoctrinating a child into a worldview which tolerates rape, murder, child molestation, and other aberrant things of that nature?

Troll.

 

[EvMetro]

I am a biker and a sailor who will NEVER forget the pow, mia, and all of the fallen who have paid the ultimate price defending freedom from commies. In return for what they gave, I promise to live free or to die. I solemnly do swear to fight commies till the day I die.

Navy eh? What commands, and when?

Desert storm era. H53, c2, p3. I spent a lot of time serving in the sand.

 

[Questioner]

I am a biker and a sailor who will NEVER forget the pow, mia, and all of the fallen who have paid the ultimate price defending freedom from commies. In return for what they gave, I promise to live free or to die. I solemnly do swear to fight commies till the day I die.

Navy eh? What commands, and when?

Desert storm era. H53, c2, p3. I spent a lot of time serving in the sand.

Thank you for serving.

 

[EvMetro]

I am a biker and a sailor who will NEVER forget the pow, mia, and all of the fallen who have paid the ultimate price defending freedom from commies. In return for what they gave, I promise to live free or to die. I solemnly do swear to fight commies till the day I die.

Navy eh? What commands, and when?

Desert storm era. H53, c2, p3. I spent a lot of time serving in the sand.

Thank you for serving.

And thank you for the great posts.