Should adoptees be able to acquire their original birth certificates so they can search for their birth families

[EvilCat Breath]

Obviously,
But....small town and he has too many other things going on to worry about.

Small towns in rural nowhere....they have their own sense of justice. The girl is a pariah....She will keep that label around here. Meaning unemployable, deplorable friend group, and family isolation.

Her ONLY hope of having a positive life is by leaving the neighborhood and living in a large city.

That might be the main incentive for adoptees to find parents. To see what they can get. One day, someone is going to go too far in demanding "rights" and get their heads blown off. Maybe that will stop this travesty.

 

[JohnDB]

That might be the main incentive for adoptees to find parents. To see what they can get. One day, someone is going to go too far in demanding "rights" and get their heads blown off. Maybe that will stop this travesty.

The biological parent is NOT the real issue I have. It's the effect upon the young person shaky in their identity to begin with. For whatever reason they seem to think that because of a genetic predisposition to enjoy certain foods they should also engage in similar life destroying habits their biological mother engaged in.

As if we needed another crack whore to walk the streets.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The point is there is no right of privacy for birth mothers and there isnt a law in any state that gives that right. Thanks to DNA and search engines anyone can be found. Your entire argument is moot irrelevant has no doesnt matter and there isnt a damn thing you can do about it

I think you will find that it is the law in the majority of states. You are just clueless as to reality as DNA providers and search engines also have to follow the law.

Reading your posts, I find a very suspicious motivation for your own work hidden in your postings.

Do you need a new keyboard with a working apostrophe key, or are you just inept at typing?

 

[Hafar1014]

That might be the main incentive for adoptees to find parents. To see what they can get. One day, someone is going to go too far in demanding "rights" and get their heads blown off. Maybe that will stop this travesty.

Thats a really dumb statement and it shows a mindless understanding of adoption. Its not about money but its telling that you think so. Thats reflection of who and what you are. In many cases the mother is poor and needs help and support

 

[Hafar1014]

I think you will find that it is the law in the majority of states. You are just clueless as to reality as DNA providers and search engines also have to follow the law.

Reading your posts, I find a very suspicious motivation for your own work hidden in your postings.

Do you need a new keyboard with a working apostrophe key, or are you just inept at typing?

My motivation is to heal the wounds caused by adoption for both sides. Young pregnant women were often manipulated to give their babies away. The Catholic Church was the worst offender. The Baby Scoop Era was well known for widespread abuse of these vulnerable women.
A newborn baby has life long bond with the another and she has one with her child. Its normal and natural for them to want to find each other again and heal the wounds of premature maternal separation which creates trauma in both of them.

I created therapeutic interventions for adoptees, a trauma informed parenting system, explained in scientific papers how adoption effects development and personality. Then I gave this information free to the world.
I have saved hundreds of families, marriages, and adult adoptees. I searched for and brought together successfully more families than I can remember. I was an expert witness before NJ and PA lawmakers on adoption reform and yes both states opened their records to adoptees. What have you done for humanity?
Here they are

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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Thats extortion and is a crime. Threaten her with charges

I'll throw my expertise on a certain similar area. Do you know why the identity of organ donors are kept secret? Recipients of organ transplants are managed by UNOS. My hospital would release no contact information for the donor to me for the first 6 months and would then only allow me to send a letter to the donor family, which I did about 9 months later. I was not allowed to give any specific contact information, other than my state. I only gave the state where the transplant occurred because I live in another state. If the donor family wishes to contact me, they can do so at their own discretion through the transplant coordinators.

Recipients of transplants are warned not to develop close contact unsupervised because there have been cases of donor's families seeking monetary compensation from the recipients or their families.

Any contact I had with the mother of my donor was done through the transplant coordinators. I still am not certain of my donor's last name and location. She is a very nice woman and the mother of 4 other beautiful children. She gave me a photograph of her kids and their names and through the internet, I think I have their last name and location, but I am not certain. Therefore, I still cannot contact them directly nor can she contact me, but that has always been restriction to protect the program from negative impacts.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

My motivation is to heal the wounds caused by adoption for both sides. Young pregnant women were often manipulated to give their babies away. The Catholic Church was the worst offender. The Baby Scoop Era was well kwon for widespread abuse of these vulnerable women.
A newborn baby has life long bond with the another and she has one with her child. Its normal and natural for them to want to find each other again and heal the wounds of premature maternal separation which creates trauma in both of them.

I created therapeutic interventions for adoptees, a trauma informed parenting system, explained in scientific papers how adoption effects development and personality. Then I gave this information free to the world.
I have saved hundreds of families, marriages, and adult adoptees. I searched for and brought together successfully more families than I can remember. I was an expert witness before NJ and PA lawmakers on adoption reform and yes both states opened their records to adoptees. What have you done fir humanity?
Here they are

Robert Hafetz - Profile on Academia.edu

Robert Allan Hafetz was born January 28, 1951, in the Door of Hope Salvation Army Booth Home, in Jersey City, New Jersey. A late in life graduate of Temple…

independent.academia.edu

How many of your reunions went bad? Or do you even follow up with these people to find out? One is too many in my humble opinion.

 

[Hafar1014]

I'll throw my expertise on a certain similar area. Do you know why the identity of organ donors are kept secret? Recipients of organ transplants are managed by UNOS. My hospital would release no contact information for the donor to me for the first 6 months and would then only allow me to send a letter to the donor family, which I did about 9 months later. I was not allowed to give any specific contact information, other than my state. I only gave the state where the transplant occurred because I live in another state. If the donor family wishes to contact me, they can do so at their own discretion through the transplant coordinators.

Recipients of transplants are warned not to develop close contact unsupervised because there have been cases of donor's families seeking monetary compensation from the recipients or their families.

Any contact I had with the mother of my donor was done through the transplant coordinators. I still am not certain of my donor's last name and location. She is a very nice woman and the mother of 4 other beautiful children. She gave me a photograph of her kids and their names and through the internet, I think I have their last name and location, but I am not certain. Therefore, I still cannot contact them directly nor can she contact me, but that has always been restriction to protect the program from negative impacts.

Organs arent human beings there is slight difference. Human psychology isnt your field. Adoptees in my experience have never asked for money. Its more often the other way around.

I have right to search for my birth family. A human right by definition. I have right to my medical history my life and the lives of my children may depend on it. I exercised that right and helped many others do it successfully. I say that with pride.

 

[Hafar1014]

How many of your reunions went bad? Or do you even follow up with these people to find out? One is too many in my humble opinion.

None My patients stay in contact with me. Why does your opinion matter

 

[Hafar1014]

None My patients stay in contact with me.

Why does your opinion matter

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Organs arent human beings there is slight difference. Human psychology isnt your field. Adoptees in my experience have never asked for money. Its more often the other way around.

I have right to search for my birth family. A human right by definition. I have right to my medical history my life and the lives of my children may depend on it. I exercised that right and helped many others do it successfully. I say that with pride.

I never said it was. Dumbass!

What law says that?
That's a strange way of telling us you are gay!

 

[EvilCat Breath]

My motivation is to heal the wounds caused by adoption for both sides. Young pregnant women were often manipulated to give their babies away. The Catholic Church was the worst offender. The Baby Scoop Era was well known for widespread abuse of these vulnerable women.
A newborn baby has life long bond with the another and she has one with her child. Its normal and natural for them to want to find each other again and heal the wounds of premature maternal separation which creates trauma in both of them.

I created therapeutic interventions for adoptees, a trauma informed parenting system, explained in scientific papers how adoption effects development and personality. Then I gave this information free to the world.
I have saved hundreds of families, marriages, and adult adoptees. I searched for and brought together successfully more families than I can remember. I was an expert witness before NJ and PA lawmakers on adoption reform and yes both states opened their records to adoptees. What have you done for humanity?
Here they are

Robert Hafetz - Profile on Academia.edu

Robert Allan Hafetz was born January 28, 1951, in the Door of Hope Salvation Army Booth Home, in Jersey City, New Jersey. A late in life graduate of Temple…

independent.academia.edu

All you have really done is make the case for abortion.

 

[Genevieve]

Most states still seal original birth certificates form adoptees. Several US states allow adoptees access to their original birth certificates, but the specific laws and procedures vary. Ten states, including Alabama, Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Kansas, Maine, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, and Rhode Island, offer adoptees unrestricted access. I was an expert witness testifying in NJ which has opened its records for adoptees.

Fighting this was the Catholic Church, the ACLU, adoption lawyers, anti abortion groups, and the Mormons.
For open records was NJ Care a coalition of adoptees and birth mothers. We fought a 32 year battle and beat them at every hearing. I was in the fight for 15 years.

The Oregon Supreme Court ruled there is no right of privacy in adoption. One argument is birth mother privacy assuming they dont want to be known after they surrender their child. There is no law that supports this and often social workers will make this false claim. Research shows 93% want to be found by the children they gave away and in many cases were manipulated to give up at a time when they were vulnerable.

The UN treaty of the child states every human being has right to know their ethnic history.

Further my research shows that infants a day old can make long term memory. When premature maternal separation occurs the infant records a preverbal trauma memory for life that will alter development. We remember out=r mothers of origin and most of us long to find her again. We should have that right

In a good world, adoptions could be open and the birth mother and child meet when the time is right. That wouldn't always be a good thing for both, or even one party, but it is what "should" be.

An infant spends 9 months within its birth mother. That time isn't remembered, but it has a huge impact on both the baby and the mother. Closure of some sort is needed by many, if not all, adopted children. Maybe some sort of therapy is in order just in case the reunion isn't a good one, but I think that some sort of reunion might help the mental health of both mother and child.

 

[initforme]

Just make the adoption process alit more difficult. That will imptove the system.

 

[Unkotare]

Just make the adoption process alit more difficult. That will imptove the system.

Your hatred for family and human life is beyond reprehensible at this point you son of a *****.

 

[initforme]

Our neighbors adopted from overseas years ago. There were actually people ignorant enough to question why they didnt try to adopt from america. Had theyd asked that when i was there i would have told them off. Ignirant pukes they were.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Your hatred for family and human life is beyond reprehensible at this point you son of a *****.

You have to excuse Methuselah. His dementia-riddled brain no longer functions.

 

[Unkotare]

You have to excuse Methuselah. His dementia-riddled brain no longer functions.

He's a nihilistic old douche who fantasizes about the whole world ending when he does.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

He's a nihilistic old douche who fantasizes about the whole world ending when he does.

At the rate his brain is decaying, that should be in the next few weeks. I really think he should see a doctor.

 

[Unkotare]

At the rate his brain is decaying, that should be in the next few weeks. I really think he should see a doctor.

Or a taxidermist.