- Jul 19, 2014
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What does this cherry picked screed have to do with why gang members kill with guns? You asked the question. "Why do American gangs murder each other in greater numbers than Swedish gangs do?". That is your answer. Guns are available, guns are prevalent. Unlike in Sweden, which has strict gun control laws.Because of the proliferation of weapons. They are readily available in this country..and plentiful.Fully relevant to the point you are trying to make.How many?So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....
STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.
"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.
A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.
According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.
"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.
"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.
Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.
Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.
Too many considering they have gun control.
Not relevant.......their criminals have fully automatic military rifles and grenades that they use to murder each other.......the argument isn't the number...since the criminals decide what that number is going to be....the argument you make is that gun control laws stop them from killing people...which we see here it doesn't
Since......again.......their criminals Have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Use Grenades......which means their gun control laws are not working..........
Nothing stops them from getting these weapons..which means if they were to decide to walk into a school, a mall, a church, a mosque, or a theater, nothing would stop them since they already have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Grenades.
Stop avoiding the question.
How many gun deaths in Sweden this year?
When you ask an actual question that is relevant I will answer it...
Here....I will help you...
Why do American gangs murder more members of other criminal gangs than the gangs in Sweden do.....?
That is the question you need to ask.
Wrong......we know this is wrong because as more Americans went out, bought guns and then actually carried them, our gun murder rate went down 49%, it did not go up......our gun crime rate went down 75%, it did not go up...
Since gun crime went down as more Americans own and carry guns......not up....you are completely and utterly wrong.....
Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
The anti-gun hypothesis and argument.....
More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.
In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%
The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....
In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.
Let me explain it this way...
The U.S. and Europe both have easy access to booze. In fact, in Europe, they allow their children to drink earlier than we allow our kids to drink here.....
Who has the bigger alcoholism problem? In most cases it is the U.S......it isn't access to alcohol that causes the problem, it is how the culture uses alcohol.
Dittos prescription drugs.....
We have more drug addiction here than in Europe...they have drugs there, but less addiction......it isn't access, it is the culture around the drugs that is the issue...
Dittos guns...and criminals......