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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.

Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.


 

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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?
 
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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Too many considering they have gun control.
 
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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Their criminals also like to throw grenades at each other......they should probably make a law against throwing grenades at people...don't you think?
 

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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Too many considering they have gun control.
How many?
 

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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Their criminals also like to throw grenades at each other......they should probably make a law against throwing grenades at people...don't you think?
Stop avoiding the question.

How many shooting deaths there?
 
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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Too many considering they have gun control.
How many?

Not relevant.......their criminals have fully automatic military rifles and grenades that they use to murder each other.......the argument isn't the number...since the criminals decide what that number is going to be....the argument you make is that gun control laws stop them from killing people...which we see here it doesn't

Since......again.......their criminals Have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Use Grenades......which means their gun control laws are not working..........

Nothing stops them from getting these weapons..which means if they were to decide to walk into a school, a mall, a church, a mosque, or a theater, nothing would stop them since they already have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Grenades.
 

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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Too many considering they have gun control.
How many?

Not relevant.......their criminals have fully automatic military rifles and grenades that they use to murder each other.......the argument isn't the number...since the criminals decide what that number is going to be....the argument you make is that gun control laws stop them from killing people...which we see here it doesn't

Since......again.......their criminals Have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Use Grenades......which means their gun control laws are not working..........

Nothing stops them from getting these weapons..which means if they were to decide to walk into a school, a mall, a church, a mosque, or a theater, nothing would stop them since they already have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Grenades.
Fully relevant to the point you are trying to make.

Stop avoiding the question.

How many gun deaths in Sweden this year?
 
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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Their criminals also like to throw grenades at each other......they should probably make a law against throwing grenades at people...don't you think?
Stop avoiding the question.

How many shooting deaths there?

Not avoiding the question...the question you are asking is irrelevant to whether their gun control laws work......

You can't explain how their gun control laws work since their criminals have access to fully automatic military rifles and grenades...which are their favorite weapons...on a continent that bans them in a country that bans them.....

https://www.thelocal.se/20200203/explosions-interview-police-stefan-hector-sweden

Why are there so many explosions in Sweden?

"We've seen, over the last couple of years, that the amount of explosions in Sweden have risen to a level not seen anywhere else in Europe. The reasons, or underlying cause, are criminals clashing.

"They range from conflicts of a rational character, like market shares for the illegal narcotics trade, or more personal, such as provocations or insults, old conflicts with causes long-forgotten. Nevertheless, the explosions are an expression of clashes between criminal elements.

"These criminal elements are in large part comprised of street gangs from 'vulnerable areas' in the suburbs but also what we sometimes refer to as 'biker gangs'. There is, however, a lot of overlap between these two groups so as a whole this is about conflicts between different criminal networks."
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How do your colleagues abroad view this development in Sweden?

"They are astonished. The prevailing picture of Sweden is that it is a calm and stable country and these expressions of violence, which are without equal, at least in Europe, is a surprise to our neighbouring countries.

"We have ongoing collaboration with many of the European countries, especially with the Nordic countries, and no one has the same kind of problems which is why this is a perplexing and possibly even frightening issue. But they are actively seeking more knowledge and are discussing these issues with us in order to share experiences and trying to understand this phenomenon."

You talked about seizures of other weapons, beside explosives. Recently a Bosnian man in the US got sentenced to prison for smuggling weapon parts to, among others, Swedish neo-nazis. How common are criminal international networks when it comes to Swedish gunrunning?

"From what I've seen, one of the most common guns in criminal clashes in Sweden is the AK 47,

and they aren't manufactured here. Which means that it needs to be
smuggled into the country, so in that sense international players are contributing to shootings in Sweden. These kinds of guns usually come from the Balkans, as they have a surplus of weapons from past decades of conflict."

Are those the kind of weapons you usually seize or are, for example, Swedish hunting weapons also confiscated?

"No. Swedish hunting rifles are extremely rare in these kinds of contexts,
it's usually assault rifles such as the AK 47, pistols or submachine guns. It is very, very rare that we see hunting weapons as a part of our work with Operation Hoarfrost."
 
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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Too many considering they have gun control.
How many?

Not relevant.......their criminals have fully automatic military rifles and grenades that they use to murder each other.......the argument isn't the number...since the criminals decide what that number is going to be....the argument you make is that gun control laws stop them from killing people...which we see here it doesn't

Since......again.......their criminals Have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Use Grenades......which means their gun control laws are not working..........

Nothing stops them from getting these weapons..which means if they were to decide to walk into a school, a mall, a church, a mosque, or a theater, nothing would stop them since they already have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Grenades.
Fully relevant to the point you are trying to make.

Stop avoiding the question.

How many gun deaths in Sweden this year?

It isn't a relevant question since criminals are easily getting actual...Fully automatic military rifles and grenades......whether they use them to commit murder isn't the point...the point is that gun control laws that rule in the entire Continent of Europe and the entire country of Sweden do not keep fully automatic military rifles and grenades out of the hands of common street criminals...criminals with criminal records that make the even more incapable of owning normal guns let alone fully automatic military rifles and grenades which are completely illegal in Sweden and the entire continent...


If you want to talk why American criminals murder each other in larger numbers than criminals in Sweden do, that is another debate...but has nothing to do with access to guns.......again.....since Common Swedish street thugs have unlimited access to fully automatic military rifles and grenades.
 
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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Too many considering they have gun control.
How many?

Not relevant.......their criminals have fully automatic military rifles and grenades that they use to murder each other.......the argument isn't the number...since the criminals decide what that number is going to be....the argument you make is that gun control laws stop them from killing people...which we see here it doesn't

Since......again.......their criminals Have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Use Grenades......which means their gun control laws are not working..........

Nothing stops them from getting these weapons..which means if they were to decide to walk into a school, a mall, a church, a mosque, or a theater, nothing would stop them since they already have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Grenades.
Fully relevant to the point you are trying to make.

Stop avoiding the question.

How many gun deaths in Sweden this year?

When you ask an actual question that is relevant I will answer it...

Here....I will help you...

Why do American gangs murder more members of other criminal gangs than the gangs in Sweden do.....?

That is the question you need to ask.
 

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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Too many considering they have gun control.
How many?

Not relevant.......their criminals have fully automatic military rifles and grenades that they use to murder each other.......the argument isn't the number...since the criminals decide what that number is going to be....the argument you make is that gun control laws stop them from killing people...which we see here it doesn't

Since......again.......their criminals Have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Use Grenades......which means their gun control laws are not working..........

Nothing stops them from getting these weapons..which means if they were to decide to walk into a school, a mall, a church, a mosque, or a theater, nothing would stop them since they already have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Grenades.
Fully relevant to the point you are trying to make.

Stop avoiding the question.

How many gun deaths in Sweden this year?

When you ask an actual question that is relevant I will answer it...

Here....I will help you...

Why do American gangs murder more members of other criminal gangs than the gangs in Sweden do.....?

That is the question you need to ask.
Because of the proliferation of weapons. They are readily available in this country..and plentiful.
 

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The cultural enrichment of Sweden continues

It is only a matter of time before the actual Swedes are a persecuted minority.
 

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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Their criminals also like to throw grenades at each other......they should probably make a law against throwing grenades at people...don't you think?
Stop avoiding the question.

How many shooting deaths there?

Not avoiding the question...the question you are asking is irrelevant to whether their gun control laws work......

You can't explain how their gun control laws work since their criminals have access to fully automatic military rifles and grenades...which are their favorite weapons...on a continent that bans them in a country that bans them.....

https://www.thelocal.se/20200203/explosions-interview-police-stefan-hector-sweden

Why are there so many explosions in Sweden?

"We've seen, over the last couple of years, that the amount of explosions in Sweden have risen to a level not seen anywhere else in Europe. The reasons, or underlying cause, are criminals clashing.

"They range from conflicts of a rational character, like market shares for the illegal narcotics trade, or more personal, such as provocations or insults, old conflicts with causes long-forgotten. Nevertheless, the explosions are an expression of clashes between criminal elements.

"These criminal elements are in large part comprised of street gangs from 'vulnerable areas' in the suburbs but also what we sometimes refer to as 'biker gangs'. There is, however, a lot of overlap between these two groups so as a whole this is about conflicts between different criminal networks."
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How do your colleagues abroad view this development in Sweden?

"They are astonished. The prevailing picture of Sweden is that it is a calm and stable country and these expressions of violence, which are without equal, at least in Europe, is a surprise to our neighbouring countries.

"We have ongoing collaboration with many of the European countries, especially with the Nordic countries, and no one has the same kind of problems which is why this is a perplexing and possibly even frightening issue. But they are actively seeking more knowledge and are discussing these issues with us in order to share experiences and trying to understand this phenomenon."

You talked about seizures of other weapons, beside explosives. Recently a Bosnian man in the US got sentenced to prison for smuggling weapon parts to, among others, Swedish neo-nazis. How common are criminal international networks when it comes to Swedish gunrunning?


"From what I've seen, one of the most common guns in criminal clashes in Sweden is the AK 47,

and they aren't manufactured here. Which means that it needs to be
smuggled into the country, so in that sense international players are contributing to shootings in Sweden. These kinds of guns usually come from the Balkans, as they have a surplus of weapons from past decades of conflict."

Are those the kind of weapons you usually seize or are, for example, Swedish hunting weapons also confiscated?

"No. Swedish hunting rifles are extremely rare in these kinds of contexts,
it's usually assault rifles such as the AK 47, pistols or submachine guns. It is very, very rare that we see hunting weapons as a part of our work with Operation Hoarfrost."
No, it isn't. It's a completely relevant question that has a direct relationship to the point you are trying to make.

Now stop this dishonest dodging and answer the question.

How many gun related.deaths in Sweden this year?
 
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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Too many considering they have gun control.
How many?

Not relevant.......their criminals have fully automatic military rifles and grenades that they use to murder each other.......the argument isn't the number...since the criminals decide what that number is going to be....the argument you make is that gun control laws stop them from killing people...which we see here it doesn't

Since......again.......their criminals Have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Use Grenades......which means their gun control laws are not working..........

Nothing stops them from getting these weapons..which means if they were to decide to walk into a school, a mall, a church, a mosque, or a theater, nothing would stop them since they already have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Grenades.
Fully relevant to the point you are trying to make.

Stop avoiding the question.

How many gun deaths in Sweden this year?

When you ask an actual question that is relevant I will answer it...

Here....I will help you...

Why do American gangs murder more members of other criminal gangs than the gangs in Sweden do.....?

That is the question you need to ask.
Because of the proliferation of weapons. They are readily available in this country..and plentiful.

Wrong......we know this is wrong because as more Americans went out, bought guns and then actually carried them, our gun murder rate went down 49%, it did not go up......our gun crime rate went down 75%, it did not go up...

Since gun crime went down as more Americans own and carry guns......not up....you are completely and utterly wrong.....

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%


Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.



The anti-gun hypothesis and argument.....

More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.

Actual Result:

In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%

The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....


In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.
 

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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

Does not sound like they have gun control or that it is effective. It certainly does not sound as if the shooter used my personal definition of gun control (or the rules for gun safety as in your earlier post) or he would not have shot the 12 year old girl. Tragic, but of no political value.
 

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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Too many considering they have gun control.
How many?

Not relevant.......their criminals have fully automatic military rifles and grenades that they use to murder each other.......the argument isn't the number...since the criminals decide what that number is going to be....the argument you make is that gun control laws stop them from killing people...which we see here it doesn't

Since......again.......their criminals Have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Use Grenades......which means their gun control laws are not working..........

Nothing stops them from getting these weapons..which means if they were to decide to walk into a school, a mall, a church, a mosque, or a theater, nothing would stop them since they already have Fully Automatic Military Rifles and Grenades.
Fully relevant to the point you are trying to make.

Stop avoiding the question.

How many gun deaths in Sweden this year?

It isn't a relevant question since criminals are easily getting actual...Fully automatic military rifles and grenades......whether they use them to commit murder isn't the point...the point is that gun control laws that rule in the entire Continent of Europe and the entire country of Sweden do not keep fully automatic military rifles and grenades out of the hands of common street criminals...criminals with criminal records that make the even more incapable of owning normal guns let alone fully automatic military rifles and grenades which are completely illegal in Sweden and the entire continent...


If you want to talk why American criminals murder each other in larger numbers than criminals in Sweden do, that is another debate...but has nothing to do with access to guns.......again.....since Common Swedish street thugs have unlimited access to fully automatic military rifles and grenades.
It's very relevant. You don't want to answer it because if you do your false narrative falls apart.
 
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A 12 year old girl was caught in the crossfire of rival gangs in Sweden...you know, Europe, where they have gun control....

STOCKHOLM, Aug. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sweden's Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg vowed on Tuesday to tackle gang-related crimes following the recent tragic death of a 12-year-old girl.

"We must gather strength against this. We are expanding the police with more employees and new tools. But if we do not stop the new recruitment of young people into the criminal environment, the harsh measures will not play such a big role," Damberg was quoted by Swedish Television (SVT) as saying.

A 12-year-old girl was killed on Sunday after being hit by a stray bullet in a gang shooting at a petrol station car park in Norsborg, south of the country's capital Stockholm.


According to SVT, the shooting was part of an escalating conflict between gangs fighting over local drug markets.

"It's terribly tragic. You feel a great anger towards the criminal gangs who show no empathy because their shootings affect others. There are no words to describe the grief that it means for parents to lose their child in this way," said Damberg.

"The police are now making great efforts in the murder hunt. They are using all available resources to convict the perpetrators of this act," he added, calling on witnesses to contact the police.


Norsborg stands out as one of the country's most gang-ravaged areas, Manne Gerell, associate professor of criminology at Malmo University, told SVT. Gerell added that there are active criminal networks in Norsborg, with police issuing three warnings about shootings in the past 14 days alone.


Despite Swedish police tightening surveillance and toughening sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes recently, bombings, shootings and gang-related crimes in Sweden have not decreased.

So, how many gun deaths does that give them for the year?

Their criminals also like to throw grenades at each other......they should probably make a law against throwing grenades at people...don't you think?
Stop avoiding the question.

How many shooting deaths there?

Not avoiding the question...the question you are asking is irrelevant to whether their gun control laws work......

You can't explain how their gun control laws work since their criminals have access to fully automatic military rifles and grenades...which are their favorite weapons...on a continent that bans them in a country that bans them.....

https://www.thelocal.se/20200203/explosions-interview-police-stefan-hector-sweden

Why are there so many explosions in Sweden?

"We've seen, over the last couple of years, that the amount of explosions in Sweden have risen to a level not seen anywhere else in Europe. The reasons, or underlying cause, are criminals clashing.

"They range from conflicts of a rational character, like market shares for the illegal narcotics trade, or more personal, such as provocations or insults, old conflicts with causes long-forgotten. Nevertheless, the explosions are an expression of clashes between criminal elements.

"These criminal elements are in large part comprised of street gangs from 'vulnerable areas' in the suburbs but also what we sometimes refer to as 'biker gangs'. There is, however, a lot of overlap between these two groups so as a whole this is about conflicts between different criminal networks."
-----

How do your colleagues abroad view this development in Sweden?

"They are astonished. The prevailing picture of Sweden is that it is a calm and stable country and these expressions of violence, which are without equal, at least in Europe, is a surprise to our neighbouring countries.

"We have ongoing collaboration with many of the European countries, especially with the Nordic countries, and no one has the same kind of problems which is why this is a perplexing and possibly even frightening issue. But they are actively seeking more knowledge and are discussing these issues with us in order to share experiences and trying to understand this phenomenon."

You talked about seizures of other weapons, beside explosives. Recently a Bosnian man in the US got sentenced to prison for smuggling weapon parts to, among others, Swedish neo-nazis. How common are criminal international networks when it comes to Swedish gunrunning?


"From what I've seen, one of the most common guns in criminal clashes in Sweden is the AK 47,

and they aren't manufactured here. Which means that it needs to be
smuggled into the country, so in that sense international players are contributing to shootings in Sweden. These kinds of guns usually come from the Balkans, as they have a surplus of weapons from past decades of conflict."

Are those the kind of weapons you usually seize or are, for example, Swedish hunting weapons also confiscated?

"No. Swedish hunting rifles are extremely rare in these kinds of contexts,
it's usually assault rifles such as the AK 47, pistols or submachine guns. It is very, very rare that we see hunting weapons as a part of our work with Operation Hoarfrost."
No, it isn't. It's a completely relevant question that has a direct relationship to the point you are trying to make.

Now stop this dishonest dodging and answer the question.

How many gun related.deaths in Sweden this year?

Why do American gangs murder each other in greater numbers than Swedish gangs do?

American gangs are composed of teenagers from broken homes....since the 1960s I think this has been the reason they have become more violent and more willing to kill each other.....

The criminal gangs in Sweden come from a small, homogenous people in the past, and violence wasn't part of their culture or experience. This has changed since they began to import violent, 3rd world males from war torn countries into Sweden....they are more willing to shoot each other and to use illegal, fully automatic military rifles and grenades against each other......and the violence will get worse as the Swedish police fail to be able to control these gangs.

There...I answered the question......
 

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