Seriously, what do you think is the probability that all privately owned guns can be confiscated?

[Seymour Flops]

Because our choice is to take away all guns not used for law-enforcement and military, or to accept that we live in a nation of armed citizens and figure out how to deal with the extremely small fraction of lawful gun owners who commit crimes with them.

That is the gun control vs. criminal control/psycho control in a nutshell.

I'll give you a head start. Suppose that the Dems manage to gain big enough majorities and to keep their members under control enough that they pass a federal law requiring all privately owned weapons to be turned in, and that police weapons be secured at the station when the officers are off-duty.

What is the probability that most gun-owners will turn over all of their guns, and that police will be able to find and confiscate the rest?

 

[Moonglow]

I doubt they ever try to take away guns.

 

[eagle1462010]

Because our choice is to take away all guns not used for law-enforcement and military, or to accept that we live in a nation of armed citizens and figure out how to deal with the extremely small fraction of lawful gun owners who commit crimes with them.

That is the gun control vs. criminal control/psycho control in a nutshell.

I'll give you a head start. Suppose that the Dems manage to gain big enough majorities and to keep their members under control enough that they pass a federal law requiring all privately owned weapons to be turned in, and that police weapons be secured at the station when the officers are off-duty.

What is the probability that most gun-owners will turn over all of their guns, and that police will be able to find and confiscate the rest?

We are not giving them up...............and if they start kicking in doors this country will go to war.........The divide is too dang great already.

The left are not playing by the rules and the Swamp is destroying us from within.............this CAN'T LAST.

 

[fncceo]

I doubt they ever try to take away guns.

I don't doubt, given the right political environment that they might try ... I doubt seriously they would succeed.

Take, for example. Australia instituted massive gun restrictions back in the '90s. Approximately 700,000 guns were confiscated.

Now, Australia has over 3,000,000 legally registered guns and it is thought more than twice that number exist off the books (either made, smuggled, or never turned in when laws were enacted).

There is a joke about Australian's watering their gardens with motor oil ... to keep their guns from rusting.

 

[Unkotare]

....Suppose that the Dems manage to gain big enough majorities ....

 

[Moonglow]

I don't doubt, given the right political environment that they might try ... I doubt seriously they would succeed.

They will never take mine I won't let them.

 

[Unkotare]

....

What is the probability that most gun-owners will turn over all of their guns, and that police will be able to find and confiscate the rest?

The probability is 0 out of 0.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Because our choice is to take away all guns not used for law-enforcement and military, or to accept that we live in a nation of armed citizens and figure out how to deal with the extremely small fraction of lawful gun owners who commit crimes with them.

That is the gun control vs. criminal control/psycho control in a nutshell.

I'll give you a head start. Suppose that the Dems manage to gain big enough majorities and to keep their members under control enough that they pass a federal law requiring all privately owned weapons to be turned in, and that police weapons be secured at the station when the officers are off-duty.

What is the probability that most gun-owners will turn over all of their guns, and that police will be able to find and confiscate the rest?

zero

 

[Seymour Flops]

The probability is 0 out of 0.

I hope that you are not a math teacher.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Seriously, what do you think is the probability that all privately owned guns can be confiscated?​

Slim to none...

 

[Leo123]

Because our choice is to take away all guns not used for law-enforcement and military, or to accept that we live in a nation of armed citizens and figure out how to deal with the extremely small fraction of lawful gun owners who commit crimes with them.

That is the gun control vs. criminal control/psycho control in a nutshell.

I'll give you a head start. Suppose that the Dems manage to gain big enough majorities and to keep their members under control enough that they pass a federal law requiring all privately owned weapons to be turned in, and that police weapons be secured at the station when the officers are off-duty.

What is the probability that most gun-owners will turn over all of their guns, and that police will be able to find and confiscate the rest?

0

 

[toobfreak]

what do you think is the probability that all privately owned guns can be confiscated?​

 

[Unkotare]

I hope that you are not a math teacher.

Nope.

 

[night_son]

Because our choice is to take away all guns not used for law-enforcement and military, or to accept that we live in a nation of armed citizens and figure out how to deal with the extremely small fraction of lawful gun owners who commit crimes with them.

That is the gun control vs. criminal control/psycho control in a nutshell.

I'll give you a head start. Suppose that the Dems manage to gain big enough majorities and to keep their members under control enough that they pass a federal law requiring all privately owned weapons to be turned in, and that police weapons be secured at the station when the officers are off-duty.

What is the probability that most gun-owners will turn over all of their guns, and that police will be able to find and confiscate the rest?

They would have to do it in phases, geographically. If the mayor of Chicago or Baltimore directed their police tactical units to go door-to-door through middle and upper class neighborhoods confiscating legally owned guns people who live in say, Pittsburg or Harrisburg or rural Tennessee would not lift a finger to stop them or help out their fellow Americans whose guns were being taken. Such an operation would give the government overall great confidence in proceeding with gun confiscation in other cities and counties. Rural counties in red states would be especially vulnerable. Lets say the sheriff of some rural red county in Virginia sent the county SWAT team door-to-door demanding citizens' legally owned firearms. Further, let's say enough Virginians resisted that the sheriff needed to call in the ATF or FBI or other federal agencies for assistance. All those Virginians who used force against law enforcement to save their guns would be treated like Randy Weaver or the Branch Davidians. Very few if any fellow legal gun owners living in other states or counties would come to the rescue of those Virginians. Essentially, if our government confiscated guns by one city, county or region at a time they could absolutely get away with it and next to no one would try to stop them.

 

[Mr Natural]

Zero.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Zero.

 

[Unkotare]

They would have to do it in phases, geographically. If the mayor of Chicago or Baltimore directed their police tactical units to go door-to-door through middle and upper class neighborhoods confiscating legally owned guns people who live in say, Pittsburg or Harrisburg or rural Tennessee would not lift a finger to stop them or help out their fellow Americans whose guns were being taken.....

You're wrong.

 

[Unkotare]

They would have to do it in phases, geographically. If the mayor of Chicago or Baltimore directed their police tactical units to go door-to-door through middle and upper class neighborhoods confiscating legally owned guns people who live in say, Pittsburg or Harrisburg or rural Tennessee would not lift a finger to stop them or help out their fellow Americans whose guns were being taken. Such an operation would give the government overall great confidence in proceeding with gun confiscation in other cities and counties. Rural counties in red states would be especially vulnerable. Lets say the sheriff of some rural red county in Virginia sent the county SWAT team door-to-door demanding citizens' legally owned firearms. Further, let's say enough Virginians resisted that the sheriff needed to call in the ATF or FBI or other federal agencies for assistance. All those Virginians who used force against law enforcement to save their guns would be treated like Randy Weaver or the Branch Davidians. Very few if any fellow legal gun owners living in other states or counties would come to the rescue of those Virginians. Essentially, if our government confiscated guns by one city, county or region at a time they could absolutely get away with it and next to no one would try to stop them.

I hope you don't really believe that.

 

[Seymour Flops]

So, we all seem to agree that confiscating guns won't happen. Not even if Biden makes Finnian O'Hoolihan, or whatever "Beto's" real name is, the gun-grab Czar.

Then, what's the point of discussing it? Any supposed, "sensible gun laws," would only have the effect of annoying, and endangering the law-abiding gun owner. They won't take a single gun out of the hands of criminals, nor make it impossible, or even difficult, for a mentally ill person to access one.

Our discussions about school safety, crime reduction, and suicide reduction should start with "given that guns will continue to be available . . . "

 

[marvin martian]

Because our choice is to take away all guns not used for law-enforcement and military, or to accept that we live in a nation of armed citizens and figure out how to deal with the extremely small fraction of lawful gun owners who commit crimes with them.

That is the gun control vs. criminal control/psycho control in a nutshell.

I'll give you a head start. Suppose that the Dems manage to gain big enough majorities and to keep their members under control enough that they pass a federal law requiring all privately owned weapons to be turned in, and that police weapons be secured at the station when the officers are off-duty.

What is the probability that most gun-owners will turn over all of their guns, and that police will be able to find and confiscate the rest?

Plenty of places have done it. That's why any attempt to deny us our civil rights should be met with deadly force, as it is a literal threat to your life.