“serious stain on Israel law books, because it authorises theft and robbery“

[Hollie]

• Did the "sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people" agree that:

√ The construction and maintenance of the infrastructure remains in Israel’s hands?
√ Civil matters remained under Israeli control in "Area C" and are the responsibility of the Civil Administration.
√ That Israel retained security control of the "Area "C"?

Indeed, there is an item on the table that is hardly a minor detail: The Palestinian Liberation Organization did not ratify the Oslo Accords after Arafat and Abbas signed the agreement on the White House lawn.

Dromi, an appointee of Prime Minister Rabin, made it clear that from the point of view of the Israeli government, this meant that Arafat signed the accord on his own, without the sanction of the PLO.

Demand the PLO Ratify the Oslo Accords

The relevance of the above merits a thoughtful "who cares". Watching the goings-on of the various and competing / antagonist tribal rivalries of the various Cult factions of Arab-Moslems occupying the disputed territories is much like reading of the lawless, tribal regions Pakistan where warlords rule by brute force.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Did the PLO/PA have some law that requires ratification - back then?

• Did the "sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people" agree that:

√ The construction and maintenance of the infrastructure remains in Israel’s hands?
√ Civil matters remained under Israeli control in "Area C" and are the responsibility of the Civil Administration.
√ That Israel retained security control of the "Area "C"?

Indeed, there is an item on the table that is hardly a minor detail: The Palestinian Liberation Organization did not ratify the Oslo Accords after Arafat and Abbas signed the agreement on the White House lawn.

Dromi, an appointee of Prime Minister Rabin, made it clear that from the point of view of the Israeli government, this meant that Arafat signed the accord on his own, without the sanction of the PLO.

Demand the PLO Ratify the Oslo Accords

(COMMENT)

Please read the Implementation Articles, which says in part:

OSLO I --- Article XVII
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS

1. This Declaration of Principles will enter into force one month after its signing.

OSLO II --- ARTICLE XXXI
Final Clauses

1. This Agreement shall enter into force on the date of its signing.
​

Did you stop to think that maybe in Yasser Arafat's time, the rules and law governing the Palestine Liberation Organization were different.

What we see now is just another attempt by the Palestinian radical Islamist, Jihadist, and assorted Fedayeen to to reconfigure history in the shape they want.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Phoenall]

• Did the "sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people" agree that:

√ The construction and maintenance of the infrastructure remains in Israel’s hands?
√ Civil matters remained under Israeli control in "Area C" and are the responsibility of the Civil Administration.
√ That Israel retained security control of the "Area "C"?

Indeed, there is an item on the table that is hardly a minor detail: The Palestinian Liberation Organization did not ratify the Oslo Accords after Arafat and Abbas signed the agreement on the White House lawn.

Dromi, an appointee of Prime Minister Rabin, made it clear that from the point of view of the Israeli government, this meant that Arafat signed the accord on his own, without the sanction of the PLO.

Demand the PLO Ratify the Oslo Accords

Then why did they sign them if they did not have the authority to act for the people. That would have been the best way to show the world that the arab muslims just want constant war and violence and not peace

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Did the PLO/PA have some law that requires ratification - back then?

• Did the "sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people" agree that:

√ The construction and maintenance of the infrastructure remains in Israel’s hands?
√ Civil matters remained under Israeli control in "Area C" and are the responsibility of the Civil Administration.
√ That Israel retained security control of the "Area "C"?

Indeed, there is an item on the table that is hardly a minor detail: The Palestinian Liberation Organization did not ratify the Oslo Accords after Arafat and Abbas signed the agreement on the White House lawn.

Dromi, an appointee of Prime Minister Rabin, made it clear that from the point of view of the Israeli government, this meant that Arafat signed the accord on his own, without the sanction of the PLO.

Demand the PLO Ratify the Oslo Accords

(COMMENT)

Please read the Implementation Articles, which says in part:

OSLO I --- Article XVII
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS

1. This Declaration of Principles will enter into force one month after its signing.

OSLO II --- ARTICLE XXXI
Final Clauses

1. This Agreement shall enter into force on the date of its signing.
​

Did you stop to think that maybe in Yasser Arafat's time, the rules and law governing the Palestine Liberation Organization were different.

What we see now is just another attempt by the Palestinian radical Islamist, Jihadist, and assorted Fedayeen to to reconfigure history in the shape they want.

Most Respectfully,
R

Grasping at straws?

The Oslo Accords are illegal in several different ways.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Is there some 1990s era reason for this judgment?

Grasping at straws?

The Oslo Accords are illegal in several different ways.

(COMMENT)

Remember Yasser Arafat seems to have been awarded the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize Laureate "for his efforts to create peace in the Middle East." This was for the participation in the negotiations that generated the Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements of 13 September 1993. It was witnessed by the Representatives of the Russian Federation and America.

It was generally recognized that this agreement culminates in --- Israel accepting the PLO as the representative of the Palestinians, and the PLO renounced terrorism and recognized Israel’s right to exist in peace.

This is NOT "grasping at straws;" but was a realization of a generally accepted arrangement.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Is there some 1990s era reason for this judgment?

Grasping at straws?

The Oslo Accords are illegal in several different ways.

(COMMENT)

Remember Yasser Arafat seems to have been awarded the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize Laureate "for his efforts to create peace in the Middle East." This was for the participation in the negotiations that generated the Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements of 13 September 1993. It was witnessed by the Representatives of the Russian Federation and America.

It was generally recognized that this agreement culminates in --- Israel accepting the PLO as the representative of the Palestinians, and the PLO renounced terrorism and recognized Israel’s right to exist in peace.

This is NOT "grasping at straws;" but was a realization of a generally accepted arrangement.

Most Respectfully,
R

Nice deflection.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Did the PLO/PA have some law that requires ratification - back then?

• Did the "sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people" agree that:

√ The construction and maintenance of the infrastructure remains in Israel’s hands?
√ Civil matters remained under Israeli control in "Area C" and are the responsibility of the Civil Administration.
√ That Israel retained security control of the "Area "C"?

Indeed, there is an item on the table that is hardly a minor detail: The Palestinian Liberation Organization did not ratify the Oslo Accords after Arafat and Abbas signed the agreement on the White House lawn.

Dromi, an appointee of Prime Minister Rabin, made it clear that from the point of view of the Israeli government, this meant that Arafat signed the accord on his own, without the sanction of the PLO.

Demand the PLO Ratify the Oslo Accords

(COMMENT)

Please read the Implementation Articles, which says in part:

OSLO I --- Article XVII
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS

1. This Declaration of Principles will enter into force one month after its signing.

OSLO II --- ARTICLE XXXI
Final Clauses

1. This Agreement shall enter into force on the date of its signing.
​

Did you stop to think that maybe in Yasser Arafat's time, the rules and law governing the Palestine Liberation Organization were different.

What we see now is just another attempt by the Palestinian radical Islamist, Jihadist, and assorted Fedayeen to to reconfigure history in the shape they want.

Most Respectfully,
R

Grasping at straws?

The Oslo Accords are illegal in several different ways.

Is that why the arab muslims try to use them to change the UN stance. They are only illegal when it suits you, and one of your claims was not even in existence when the accords were agreed. They are a legally binding international treaty ( international law ) that the arab muslims are trying to get out of because they lost too much by negotiating and signing them.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Is there some 1990s era reason for this judgment?

Grasping at straws?

The Oslo Accords are illegal in several different ways.

(COMMENT)

Remember Yasser Arafat seems to have been awarded the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize Laureate "for his efforts to create peace in the Middle East." This was for the participation in the negotiations that generated the Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements of 13 September 1993. It was witnessed by the Representatives of the Russian Federation and America.

It was generally recognized that this agreement culminates in --- Israel accepting the PLO as the representative of the Palestinians, and the PLO renounced terrorism and recognized Israel’s right to exist in peace.

This is NOT "grasping at straws;" but was a realization of a generally accepted arrangement.

Most Respectfully,
R

Nice deflection.

No deflection, just clarification that once again you are wrong

 

[Shusha]

The Oslo Accords are illegal in several different ways.

Oh, do tell.

 

[Phoenall]

The Oslo Accords are illegal in several different ways.

Oh, do tell.

Expect him to bring up a pan American treaty that was never ratified and was debated many years after Oslo

 

[rylah]

Wow. Unbelievable. Outright and unabashed theft of private property.

So when are we going to hear your outrage about the EU/PA illegal settlements in the area.

Or is it a thing only when the Jews settle in Judea?

European Union is 'breaking international law by funding illegal West Bank building projects'

• 400 Palestinian homes have been built illegally, in 17 locations in areas of the West Bank supposed to be under Israeli control
• They fly the EU flag and put up EU signs, in contravention of the ‘Oslo Accords’, part of international law
• But EU and Oxfam say building is justified on humanitarian grounds
• One 'EU worker' pictured threatening soldiers with a rock

You are Talking about the 400 Tents I presume................compared to 100's of thousands of Illegal Zionist,houses made of concrete.on occupied Palestinian Land...Tossa

1. It says "homes", tents are not what you call homes, and the UN wouldn't send money and trucks to install tents.
2. The Jews in Judea mostly build light wooden homes that can be installed in a day. Then after the village develops they build real houses.
Wonderful what you can achieve with 0.001% of the budget balestinians get.
3.Jews in Judea are in no way illegal, they are home.
4. You mean the lands of Israel and Judea that Romans renamed, those were never owned by any govt, calling itself "Palestine"...they can't even pronounce it how can it be theirs?

 

[theliq]

Give the Pale

Wow. Unbelievable. Outright and unabashed theft of private property.

So when are we going to hear your outrage about the EU/PA illegal settlements in the area.

Or is it a thing only when the Jews settle in Judea?

European Union is 'breaking international law by funding illegal West Bank building projects'

• 400 Palestinian homes have been built illegally, in 17 locations in areas of the West Bank supposed to be under Israeli control
• They fly the EU flag and put up EU signs, in contravention of the ‘Oslo Accords’, part of international law
• But EU and Oxfam say building is justified on humanitarian grounds
• One 'EU worker' pictured threatening soldiers with a rock

You are Talking about the 400 Tents I presume................compared to 100's of thousands of Illegal Zionist,houses made of concrete.on occupied Palestinian Land...Tossa

1. It says "homes", tents are not what you call homes, and the UN wouldn't send money and trucks to install tents.
2. The Jews in Judea mostly build light wooden homes that can be installed in a day. Then after the village develops they build real houses.
Wonderful what you can achieve with 0.001% of the budget balestinians get.
3.Jews in Judea are in no way illegal, they are home.
4. You mean the lands of Israel and Judea that Romans renamed, those were never owned by any govt, calling itself "Palestine"...they can't even pronounce it how can it be theirs?

Give the Palestinians Freedom and their Land back and let them evolve in a two State Solution.....the world will support them,they are an intelligent race of people.....trouble here is that YOU WON"T LET THEM,THEIRIN LIES THE REAL PROBLEM.........have a UN buffer between the States(O I FORGOT,YOU DON'T WANT THAT EITHER)and things will resolve.

You all lie because you don't want to really negotiate with the Palestinians..steve

 

[montelatici]

Wow. Unbelievable. Outright and unabashed theft of private property.

So when are we going to hear your outrage about the EU/PA illegal settlements in the area.

Or is it a thing only when the Jews settle in Judea?

European Union is 'breaking international law by funding illegal West Bank building projects'

• 400 Palestinian homes have been built illegally, in 17 locations in areas of the West Bank supposed to be under Israeli control
• They fly the EU flag and put up EU signs, in contravention of the ‘Oslo Accords’, part of international law
• But EU and Oxfam say building is justified on humanitarian grounds
• One 'EU worker' pictured threatening soldiers with a rock

You are Talking about the 400 Tents I presume................compared to 100's of thousands of Illegal Zionist,houses made of concrete.on occupied Palestinian Land...Tossa

1. It says "homes", tents are not what you call homes, and the UN wouldn't send money and trucks to install tents.
2. The Jews in Judea mostly build light wooden homes that can be installed in a day. Then after the village develops they build real houses.
Wonderful what you can achieve with 0.001% of the budget balestinians get.
3.Jews in Judea are in no way illegal, they are home.
4. You mean the lands of Israel and Judea that Romans renamed, those were never owned by any govt, calling itself "Palestine"...they can't even pronounce it how can it be theirs?

Well, it certainly isn't owned by a bunch of racist invaders from another continent calling themselves Jews

 

[Eloy]

All Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, are regarded as illegal by the world, with the exception of Israel.

 

[Shusha]

All Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, are regarded as illegal by the world, with the exception of Israel.

True. The world discriminates against Israel with respect to the application of law. Oh. And argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.

 

[Eloy]

All Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, are regarded as illegal by the world, with the exception of Israel.

True. The world discriminates against Israel with respect to the application of law. Oh. And argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.

It should indicate to the Israelis that they are seen as scofflaws. The reason why the world agrees that Israeli settlements are illegal is because of international law that informs everyone. The Israelis are in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, by virtue of winning the 1967 War. Since it is impermissible in international law to acquire land by means of war, none of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem belongs to Israel and, consequently, all the settlements are on stolen land that must be returned to the Palestinian people.

 

[theliq]

All Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, are regarded as illegal by the world, with the exception of Israel.

True. The world discriminates against Israel with respect to the application of law. Oh. And argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.

Fcuk do they......The recalcegent Israelis just ignore the UN and every one else......you really talk a lot of SHIT.....They are of the opinion everybody HATES THEM........they probably do....for good reason as Eloy has explained,but they Hate themselves MORE

 

[theliq]

All Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, are regarded as illegal by the world, with the exception of Israel.

True. The world discriminates against Israel with respect to the application of law. Oh. And argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.

No they do NOT......The reason the Zionists don't regard this as illegal like the rest of the world.....IS..BECAUSE THEY HAVE AND NEVER HAVE HAD ANY INTENTION OF RETURNING THIS LAND TO THE PALISTINIANS....BY SOME MENTAL DISORDER THE ZIONISTS THINK THIS IS OK........IT AIN'T,IT IS FILTH

 

[RoccoR]

Eloy, et al,

I know that a hell-of a lot of people believe this line of thought. But again, this is a another distortion of the facts once more; an indication of Arab Palestinian honesty.

All Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, are regarded as illegal by the world, with the exception of Israel.

(COMMENT)

No Area "C" settlement in the West Bank is actually in violation of the law. The concept is probably not the most politically astute action or financially a sound investment. The Arab Palestinians do not actually exercise sovereignty in Area "C" of the West Bank.

My understanding is that their are 24 Settlement that where similar to Amona; where the Court Ordered demolition of the homes is scheduled.

Now it is time for the Israelis (themselves) to revisit their outpost/settlement strategy; no matter how painful the outcome might be.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[SAYIT]

Indeed, there is an item on the table that is hardly a minor detail: The Palestinian Liberation Organization did not ratify the Oslo Accords after Arafat and Abbas signed the agreement on the White House lawn...

So you agree that agreements made with Palestinian "leadership" isn't worth the paper it is written on? I'll be sure to reference that fact in the future. Thanks.