Pence 2019-how does that sound?
I wouldn't like it, but I would be ok with that.
I kind of miss the days where we could completely disagree with the person in office without questioning their integrity.
George W. Bush was that for me. I didn't like him and I disagreed with him on everything, but I believed he was a good man who genuinely wanted to do what he felt was right. It was kind of comforting knowing that the person in charge, despite your issues with him, wasn't a narcissistic lunatic. I'd be fine with Pence.
Not that it matters though. Trump could shoot a guy on 5th avenue and I don't think the Senate would convict him. So I don't expect anything to actually happen here.
I disagree with you-I would rather have a dick in office who gets things done, especially what I want, rather than a boot licker.
So you don't think Pence would get things done that you like?
No, he is too religious for my taste and would cave if the going got tough-Trump is a fighter.
Too religious for my taste as well. I just don't see him as an unstable, narcissistic, self-serving, pathological liar. So I would consider it a significant improvement.
We'll certainly disagree here, but I actually think someone like Pence or Cruz would be more effective at getting legislation passed for Republicans. Both are very direct in what they want and without all the unnecessary extra baggage that Trump brings. Early on I figured that Trump's presidency wouldn't be as bad as a Pence or Cruz presidency for just that reason. I've since flipped on that position. I'd much rather have a sensible adult passing legislation that I don't support than to deal with this shit-show we currently have.
To further add to that point, let's consider if Pence was the president or if Ted Cruz won in 2016. We certainly wouldn't have the cluster-**** news stories that we have had for the last few years. I highly doubt that Democrats would be as energized as they were in 2018 to take back the House. After all, they had a record-shattering 70% increase in their votes last year and the biggest reason for that is certainly Trump. No drama, no fired-up Democrat base, and combined with a strong economy, any other sensible Republican president would easily glide to victory for 2020 in my opinion. While Trump certainly has a significant chance to win, I don't think he's anything close to a guaranteed victory that some safer candidate would have had if things played out differently.
And that's just 2020. I've said before that I think Trump may have woken up a sleeping giant of previously a-political citizens. Politics used to be boring, but now everyone has to have a stance on the current administration. The previous midterm results showed much more people getting involved in the voting process, and the majority of those new voters went against the Republican candidates. If passing legislation is what you're interested in, it may not have been ideal for you to piss off a wave of people who were previously uninterested in opposing your legislation.
But that's just my opinion. Obviously we'll see how it pans out.