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No, you don't get it.Although people concentrate on Trump's call to violence
More bullshit fake news. I was watching everything live that day.
It's interesting that the phrase High Crimes does not refer to serious crimes but rather crimes committed by those of high rank.
It's interesting that the phrase High Crimes does not refer to serious crimes but rather crimes committed by those of high rank.
YOU'RE SO FULL OF CRAP. Do you make it up or get all your facts from a children's book. The Constitution says:
The President shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
He was the Commander of the entire military, hence the salutes rendered him before he left office in disgrace. No other elected official is saluted (a gesture of military respect of authority) except a president. Why did you think presidents were saluted. Other politicians are not saluted, but the president is, every time. The Flag of the United States is saluted every time, and his actions disgraced his office and the flag.Trump isn't military and impeachment isn't a court-martial, dizzy.Not surprising at all, as it goes along with:Where does the Senate get the jurisdiction to put a private citizen on trial? From what I can find only the Article 3 courts have that authority.
Your thoughts?
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Supreme Court: Retirees Can Be Court-Martialed for Crimes Committed After Service
You ain't free and clear, with the piper paid, by getting out just in time.
we were not BIG GOVT at the time of our founders, we did not even have any crimes or misdemeanor codes...or any federal criminal code until 50 to 100 years after the constitution was written... is what i was reading the other day on our history...
It was not written to allow a president to commit heinous crimes against the country and escape judgement in the Senate, simply because he committed the offenses on last week in office or by resigning to avoid punishment.Presidents can get impeached by Congress but Congress does not try criminal cases. Criminal trials and military court Marshalls are not impeachments and are not conducted by Congress. You can try an ex-president for a crime in criminal court but the Constitution states only Federal office holders can be impeached.Not surprising at all, as it goes along with:Where does the Senate get the jurisdiction to put a private citizen on trial? From what I can find only the Article 3 courts have that authority.
Your thoughts?
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Supreme Court: Retirees Can Be Court-Martialed for Crimes Committed After Service
You ain't free and clear, with the piper paid, by getting out just in time.
Although people concentrate on Trump's call to violence of the day of the insurrection, he had been stoking the fires for weeks before the siege.
Where does the Senate get the jurisdiction to put a private citizen on trial? From what I can find only the Article 3 courts have that authority.
Your thoughts?
It's interesting that the phrase High Crimes does not refer to serious crimes but rather crimes committed by those of high rank. The actual term High Crimes and Misdemeanor is bet described as bad behavior by those of high rank which can be anything from bad language in front of ladies to murder.
He committed no crimes heinous or otherwise. Your first idiotic impeachment established that. Your current impeachment is not only idiotic but meaningless and pathetic. Temper tantrums are unbecoming to adults.It was not written to allow a president to commit heinous crimes against the country and escape judgement in the Senate, simply because he committed the offenses on last week in office or by resigning to avoid punishment.Presidents can get impeached by Congress but Congress does not try criminal cases. Criminal trials and military court Marshalls are not impeachments and are not conducted by Congress. You can try an ex-president for a crime in criminal court but the Constitution states only Federal office holders can be impeached.Not surprising at all, as it goes along with:Where does the Senate get the jurisdiction to put a private citizen on trial? From what I can find only the Article 3 courts have that authority.
Your thoughts?
.
Supreme Court: Retirees Can Be Court-Martialed for Crimes Committed After Service
You ain't free and clear, with the piper paid, by getting out just in time.
I have actually never been impeached, accused or tried for any crime, so I had no "first" impeachment.He committed no crimes heinous or otherwise. Your first idiotic impeachment established that. Your current impeachment is not only idiotic but meaningless and pathetic. Temper tantrums are unbecoming to adults.It was not written to allow a president to commit heinous crimes against the country and escape judgement in the Senate, simply because he committed the offenses on last week in office or by resigning to avoid punishment.Presidents can get impeached by Congress but Congress does not try criminal cases. Criminal trials and military court Marshalls are not impeachments and are not conducted by Congress. You can try an ex-president for a crime in criminal court but the Constitution states only Federal office holders can be impeached.Not surprising at all, as it goes along with:Where does the Senate get the jurisdiction to put a private citizen on trial? From what I can find only the Article 3 courts have that authority.
Your thoughts?
.
Supreme Court: Retirees Can Be Court-Martialed for Crimes Committed After Service
You ain't free and clear, with the piper paid, by getting out just in time.
The States. Common law.we were not BIG GOVT at the time of our founders, we did not even have any crimes or misdemeanor codes...or any federal criminal code until 50 to 100 years after the constitution was written... is what i was reading the other day on our history...
If we didn't have any, how did the founders write it in the Constitution?
So you agree with the coup at the capitol that Trump egged on, the 6 dead are ok, the 140 injured policemen, some beaten to a pulp with flag bearing flag poles, the gallows set up for Pence, the Senate and house chambers desecrated, the theft of computers and podiums etc, while the commander and chief Sat joyously, watching on tv, while doing nothing to send in help, not even a call to his most loyal vp and family....He committed no crimes heinous or otherwise. Your first idiotic impeachment established that. Your current impeachment is not only idiotic but meaningless and pathetic. Temper tantrums are unbecoming to adults.It was not written to allow a president to commit heinous crimes against the country and escape judgement in the Senate, simply because he committed the offenses on last week in office or by resigning to avoid punishment.Presidents can get impeached by Congress but Congress does not try criminal cases. Criminal trials and military court Marshalls are not impeachments and are not conducted by Congress. You can try an ex-president for a crime in criminal court but the Constitution states only Federal office holders can be impeached.Not surprising at all, as it goes along with:Where does the Senate get the jurisdiction to put a private citizen on trial? From what I can find only the Article 3 courts have that authority.
Your thoughts?
.
Supreme Court: Retirees Can Be Court-Martialed for Crimes Committed After Service
You ain't free and clear, with the piper paid, by getting out just in time.
I still think the main reason is that the second impeachment validates (they suppose) the first one. The left picked up a lot of hate from conservatives for that malicious move.Nope. The 1st amendment right of freedom of speech bars congress from making a law that would limit such. However, that does not mean that a person can say whatever they chose and be immune from the legal consequences due to such speech, for example inciting insurrection or rioting or damages to property or persons due exercising those rights.Well, it does seem unlikely Cruz would go that way to me, too. I guess we'll see as this progresses along its crazy way, as it is doing even today. I can't see how this is constitutional, and Justice Roberts agrees with that, I see from the paper today. But whether something is constitutional no longer matters, as we have seen with all the oppressive COVID rules.I don't see Cruz even considering such a thing. The poster you quoted is an idiot.
Correct. The Nazis just impeached a US President for exercising his first amendment rights.
Also keep mind, articles of impeachment are not a criminal charge but a pollical charge that the office holder is not fit to hold office. The FBI is looking at the attack on the capitol to determine who will face criminal charges which could go much higher up than just those that broke into the capitol.
This entire thread is rather meaningless since there is essential no way 17 republicans are going to vote to convict. However, keep in mind this is a pollical process, not a legal process. Senate democrats will carry through with a trial for two reasons. First being it is their responsible to do so. Second, it lays out the entire case by both the prosecution and defense for the voters to deicide on whether Trump should be given a second go at the white house.
I still think the main reason is that the second impeachment validates (they suppose) the first one. The left picked up a lot of hate from conservatives for that malicious move.Nope. The 1st amendment right of freedom of speech bars congress from making a law that would limit such. However, that does not mean that a person can say whatever they chose and be immune from the legal consequences due to such speech, for example inciting insurrection or rioting or damages to property or persons due exercising those rights.Well, it does seem unlikely Cruz would go that way to me, too. I guess we'll see as this progresses along its crazy way, as it is doing even today. I can't see how this is constitutional, and Justice Roberts agrees with that, I see from the paper today. But whether something is constitutional no longer matters, as we have seen with all the oppressive COVID rules.I don't see Cruz even considering such a thing. The poster you quoted is an idiot.
Correct. The Nazis just impeached a US President for exercising his first amendment rights.
Also keep mind, articles of impeachment are not a criminal charge but a pollical charge that the office holder is not fit to hold office. The FBI is looking at the attack on the capitol to determine who will face criminal charges which could go much higher up than just those that broke into the capitol.
This entire thread is rather meaningless since there is essential no way 17 republicans are going to vote to convict. However, keep in mind this is a pollical process, not a legal process. Senate democrats will carry through with a trial for two reasons. First being it is their responsible to do so. Second, it lays out the entire case by both the prosecution and defense for the voters to deicide on whether Trump should be given a second go at the white house.
I suppose there is some hope that a second impeachment will prevent him from running again, but it sure won't if they lose it, and they are going to lose it. And it may just make us all mad.
I still think the main reason is that the second impeachment validates (they suppose) the first one. The left picked up a lot of hate from conservatives for that malicious move.
I suppose there is some hope that a second impeachment will prevent him from running again, but it sure won't if they lose it, and they are going to lose it. And it may just make us all mad.
So you agree with the coup at the capitol that Trump egged on, the 6 dead are ok, the 140 injured policemen, some beaten to a pulp with flag bearing flag poles, the gallows set up for Pence, the Senate and house chambers desecrated, the theft of computers and podiums etc, while the commander and chief Sat joyously, watching on tv, while doing nothing to send in help, not even a call to his most loyal vp and family....
If there ever in our history was a reason to impeach and convict, and barred from future office a president, it was this Jan 6th attempted insurrection.
To turn a blind eye, is unAmerican!
The States. Common law.
