- Mar 23, 2010
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There is no vote for removal it the president is found guilty, removal is automatic. Even if the president has left office, the guilty verdict will still stand. It is the same as in any court of law. If the accused is convicted and the sentence can not be carried out, the guilty verdict still stands.Your argument would fall flat on it's face since the Senate votes separately on removal and disqualified. So no, they are not inextricably tied together.I would argue that the way the Constitution is written makes barring a person from running for office part and parcel of removing them from office for clear evidence of "high crimes and misdemeanors", rather than a carte blanche to just wander in and bar whomever they don't want to deal with whenever they feel like getting around to it. I would further argue that the way the Constitution is written indicates that jurisdiction passes from them to the criminal courts when that person stops being an elected official and becomes a private citizen again.The constitution gives the Senate the power to bar a candidate from holding office in the future. The government has always controlled who can run for president, the Senate, and the House. In a pure democracy, government would not have that power but we are a democratic republic, not a democracy.So you admit it's so they can control who does and doesn't get elected, without regard to the wishes of the electorate. Because, see, the difference between this and your company is that THEY aren't supposed to make the hiring decisions.Not, really. I have fired people who screwed up on the job and walked out. I did so in order to specify that they are not to be considered for re-hire.I’m no constitutional scholar, but it does seem weird to impeach someone who’s not in office
This is what democrats are doing. They are using impeachment as means of barring Trump from holding office again. The constitution requires a person be impeached before banning them from holding office again.
And there is nothing about this vindictive, petty little tantrum of a show trial that is remotely in keeping with the spirit and intent of our republic, so please do not try to enoble this partisan political travesty by wrapping it in the flag. If you're looking at this and telling yourself that this is in any way high-minded and of benefit to the country, then you need therapy.
Actually they are, the removal vote must succeed, BEFORE a vote to disqualify can take place. That's not possible now.
After a the Senate finds the president guilty, the Senate can pass a resolution barring the president from holding office in the future.