serious question on core Jewish belief

[BreezeWood]

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GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?

I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.

I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.

You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?

It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for

I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.

If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals

Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

.

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

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really, are you that naive ...
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the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.

 

[Blues Man]

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?

I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.

I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.

You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?

It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for

I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.

If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals

Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

So it makes sense to you that your god wanted you to follow the NT and others to follow the OT and yet others to follow the Koran etc

 

[ding]

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?

I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.

I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.

You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?

It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for

I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.

If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals

Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

So it makes sense to you that your god wanted you to follow the NT and others to follow the OT and yet others to follow the Koran etc

It makes perfect sense to me that there are many perceptions of a Creator who doesn't interfere with the lives of man. Yes.

What doesn't make sense to me is why you care what others believe.

 

[ding]

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GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?

I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.

I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.

You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?

It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for

I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.

If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals

Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

.

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

.
really, are you that naive ...
.
View attachment 501865
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the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.

If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.

 

[Blues Man]

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?

I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.

I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.

You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?

It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for

I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.

If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals

Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

So it makes sense to you that your god wanted you to follow the NT and others to follow the OT and yet others to follow the Koran etc

It makes perfect sense to me that there are many perceptions of a Creator who doesn't interfere with the lives of man. Yes.

What doesn't make sense to me is why you care what others believe.

Yeah you believe that the all powerful loving creator actually wants discord among the differing religions

I'm inters ted in what people believe because I am interested in people. I am still trying to understand why people say they believe something and yet behave in ways that are completely contradictory to those beliefs.

 

[Blues Man]

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GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?

I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.

I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.

You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?

It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for

I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.

If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals

Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

.

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

.
really, are you that naive ...
.
View attachment 501865
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the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.

If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.

No I'm merely trying to understand the incongruities

You like to sweep them under the rug

 

[Street Juice]

sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.

Given that the creatures identified in Kosher law as either clean or unclean are metaphors for human archetypes, the subject and condemnation of bestiality also has deeper implications about people who display the attributes of lower beasts.

Many people out there know nothing about the figurative meaning of the words or the subjects hidden in the law about which they are so dogmatic.

Many deeply religious people have sex with swine who do not ruminate all the time unaware; many, like ding, do not even have an inkling that they are one.

The people who rebelled against Moses at least understood that they were condemned by God as animals, lower beasts, because they saw themselves described in great detail on the forbidden menu.

 

[Street Juice]

Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms,

I learned yesterday that it was David and Solomon, Judeans, whose misrule drove the Israelites away. Jesus only had one Judean (Jewish) disciple. Judas. Jesus was Galilean

 

[ding]

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?

I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.

I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.

You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?

It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for

I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.

If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals

Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

So it makes sense to you that your god wanted you to follow the NT and others to follow the OT and yet others to follow the Koran etc

It makes perfect sense to me that there are many perceptions of a Creator who doesn't interfere with the lives of man. Yes.

What doesn't make sense to me is why you care what others believe.

Yeah you believe that the all powerful loving creator actually wants discord among the differing religions

I'm inters ted in what people believe because I am interested in people. I am still trying to understand why people say they believe something and yet behave in ways that are completely contradictory to those beliefs.

Not sure why you would think that's what I would believe, but go right ahead and believe that. It seems important to you.

If you were interested in what people believe you wouldn't have told me what you think I believe.

It's only contradictory in your head because you want it to be contradictory. You lack objectivity.

 

[ding]

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GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?

I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.

I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.

You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?

It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for

I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.

If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals

Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

.

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

.
really, are you that naive ...
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View attachment 501865
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the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.

If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.

No I'm merely trying to understand the incongruities

You like to sweep them under the rug

No. You are manufacturing conflict because you need conflict.

 

[hobelim]

sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.

Given that the creatures identified in Kosher law as either clean or unclean are metaphors for human archetypes, the subject and condemnation of bestiality also has deeper implications about people who display the attributes of lower beasts.

Many people out there know nothing about the figurative meaning of the words or the subjects hidden in the law about which they are so dogmatic.

Many deeply religious people have sex with swine who do not ruminate all the time unaware; many, like ding, do not even have an inkling that they are one.

The people who rebelled against Moses at least understood that they were condemned by God as animals, lower beasts, because they saw themselves described in great detail on the forbidden menu.

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Yeah sure, I'm cuckoo... lol.... But as cuckoo as I am I can still see that you are the one who is a rabid lily white cur in the eyes of God, cursed by Jesus, but you imagine that you are some sort of enlightened revolutionary...Now thats funny.

Like ding who tries to pass himself off as a devout believer without having an inkling that he is just another low life porker that does not ruminate. Hysterical, but....

Not kosher.

So go ahead, dream on white boy. Make more of a low class uneducated fool of yourself than you already have by regurgitating nazi propaganda discredited and condemned by intelligent people worldwide a very long time ago. But you lap it up.

Just like a dog that returns to its own vomit.

 

[ding]

sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.

Given that the creatures identified in Kosher law as either clean or unclean are metaphors for human archetypes, the subject and condemnation of bestiality also has deeper implications about people who display the attributes of lower beasts.

Many people out there know nothing about the figurative meaning of the words or the subjects hidden in the law about which they are so dogmatic.

Many deeply religious people have sex with swine who do not ruminate all the time unaware; many, like ding, do not even have an inkling that they are one.

The people who rebelled against Moses at least understood that they were condemned by God as animals, lower beasts, because they saw themselves described in great detail on the forbidden menu.

View attachment 502031

Yeah sure, I'm cuckoo... lol.... But as cuckoo as I am I can still see that you are the one who is a rabid lily white cur in the eyes of God, cursed by Jesus, but you imagine that you are some sort of enlightened revolutionary...

Like ding who tries to pass himself off as a devout believer without having an inkling that he is just another low life porker that does not ruminate.

Not kosher.

But go ahead, dream on white boy. Make more of a low class uneducated fool of yourself than you already have by trying to regurgitate nazi propaganda discredited and condemned by intelligent people worldwide a very long time ago.



Now thats funny.

Yep, that's me... a low life porker.

The dunning is effect is strong in you.

 

[Street Juice]

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GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?

I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.

I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.

You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?

It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for

I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.

If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals

Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

.

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

.
really, are you that naive ...
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View attachment 501865
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the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.

If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.

No I'm merely trying to understand the incongruities

You like to sweep them under the rug

Give it up. Ding isn't an honest debater. When he can't answer a question because yoiu've caught him out in a contradiction, he switches the subject or goes ad hominem. Middling. He's like Indeependent. Same tactics.

 

[Street Juice]

sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.

Given that the creatures identified in Kosher law as either clean or unclean are metaphors for human archetypes, the subject and condemnation of bestiality also has deeper implications about people who display the attributes of lower beasts.

Many people out there know nothing about the figurative meaning of the words or the subjects hidden in the law about which they are so dogmatic.

Many deeply religious people have sex with swine who do not ruminate all the time unaware; many, like ding, do not even have an inkling that they are one.

The people who rebelled against Moses at least understood that they were condemned by God as animals, lower beasts, because they saw themselves described in great detail on the forbidden menu.

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Yeah sure, I'm cuckoo... lol.... But as cuckoo as I am I can still see that you are the one who is a rabid lily white cur in the eyes of God, cursed by Jesus, but you imagine that you are some sort of enlightened revolutionary...Now thats funny.

Like ding who tries to pass himself off as a devout believer without having an inkling that he is just another low life porker that does not ruminate. Hysterical, but....

Not kosher.

So go ahead, dream on white boy. Make more of a low class uneducated fool of yourself than you already have by regurgitating nazi propaganda discredited and condemned by intelligent people worldwide a very long time ago. But you lap it up.

Just like a dog that returns to its own vomit.

As usual, not a single substantive word in the mess of rabid snarling you think is powerful rhetoric. Sad.

 

[ding]

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GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?

I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.

I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.

You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?

It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for

I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.

If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals

Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

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You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.

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the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.

If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.

No I'm merely trying to understand the incongruities

You like to sweep them under the rug

Give it up. Ding isn't an honest debater. When he can't answer a question because yoiu've caught him out in a contradiction, he switches the subject or goes ad hominem. Middling. He's like Indeependent. Same tactics.

Go team!!!!!

You guys crack me up.

 

[hobelim]

sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.

Given that the creatures identified in Kosher law as either clean or unclean are metaphors for human archetypes, the subject and condemnation of bestiality also has deeper implications about people who display the attributes of lower beasts.

Many people out there know nothing about the figurative meaning of the words or the subjects hidden in the law about which they are so dogmatic.

Many deeply religious people have sex with swine who do not ruminate all the time unaware; many, like ding, do not even have an inkling that they are one.

The people who rebelled against Moses at least understood that they were condemned by God as animals, lower beasts, because they saw themselves described in great detail on the forbidden menu.

View attachment 502031

Yeah sure, I'm cuckoo... lol.... But as cuckoo as I am I can still see that you are the one who is a rabid lily white cur in the eyes of God, cursed by Jesus, but you imagine that you are some sort of enlightened revolutionary...Now thats funny.

Like ding who tries to pass himself off as a devout believer without having an inkling that he is just another low life porker that does not ruminate. Hysterical, but....

Not kosher.

So go ahead, dream on white boy. Make more of a low class uneducated fool of yourself than you already have by regurgitating nazi propaganda discredited and condemned by intelligent people worldwide a very long time ago. But you lap it up.

Just like a dog that returns to its own vomit.

As usual, not a single substantive word in the mess of rabid snarling you think is powerful rhetoric. Sad.

Hey sparkie, I already knew that what I said would fly right over your addled head.

I am not speaking to you but to the many others standing around , watching.

You know, the founding fathers were brilliant to allow the freedom of expression. Let every sort of foul and loathsome beast and bird run their mouths without fear of retribution and then it's easy for the intelligent to know where all the assholes are and exactly what they are thinking...You might as well have tattooed the word ASSHOLE on the middle of your forehead.

Brilliant!

Say some more...Maybe 'Goebbels was just a family man' or some such shit.

The watchers are watching....

 

[ding]

sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.

Given that the creatures identified in Kosher law as either clean or unclean are metaphors for human archetypes, the subject and condemnation of bestiality also has deeper implications about people who display the attributes of lower beasts.

Many people out there know nothing about the figurative meaning of the words or the subjects hidden in the law about which they are so dogmatic.

Many deeply religious people have sex with swine who do not ruminate all the time unaware; many, like ding, do not even have an inkling that they are one.

The people who rebelled against Moses at least understood that they were condemned by God as animals, lower beasts, because they saw themselves described in great detail on the forbidden menu.

View attachment 502031

Yeah sure, I'm cuckoo... lol.... But as cuckoo as I am I can still see that you are the one who is a rabid lily white cur in the eyes of God, cursed by Jesus, but you imagine that you are some sort of enlightened revolutionary...Now thats funny.

Like ding who tries to pass himself off as a devout believer without having an inkling that he is just another low life porker that does not ruminate. Hysterical, but....

Not kosher.

So go ahead, dream on white boy. Make more of a low class uneducated fool of yourself than you already have by regurgitating nazi propaganda discredited and condemned by intelligent people worldwide a very long time ago. But you lap it up.

Just like a dog that returns to its own vomit.

As usual, not a single substantive word in the mess of rabid snarling you think is powerful rhetoric. Sad.

I see very little difference between the two of you.

 

[hobelim]

Yep, that's me... a low life porker.

Hey man, you are what you is.

Not to worry! Your flesh is not fit for human consumption. So happily and oblivious wallow on in the mud of your own shit for the rest of your life in the pig pen.. Wallow on!

 

[ding]

Yep, that's me... a low life porker.

Hey man, you are what you is.

Not to worry! Your flesh is not fit for human consumption. So happily and oblivious wallow on in the mud of your own shit for the rest of your life in the pig pen.. Wallow on!

Yep. Tell me some more. You seem to be getting off on it.

 

[ding]

So that's what turning the other cheek means.